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DHS issued RWE doc, despite civil liberties concerns

hypocritexposer

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DHS right-wing report issued despite concerns

By EILEEN SULLIVAN – 6 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Homeland Security official says the department's office of civil rights and civil liberties objected to some of the language in the now-contentious right-wing extremism report, but the agency issued it anyway.

An intelligence assessment issued to law enforcement last week said some military veterans could be susceptible to extremist recruiters or commit lone acts of violence. This prompted angry responses from some lawmakers and veterans' groups.

Homeland Security spokeswoman Amy Kudwa said the report was issued before officials resolved problems raised by the agency's civil rights division. She said this was a breakdown of the agency's internal process.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has defended the report.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Thursday dismissed criticism of an intelligence assessment by her agency that says some military veterans could be susceptible to extremist recruiters or commit lone acts of violence.

Napolitano described the report, issued last week, as part of the department's routine of analyzing intelligence information to give law enforcement agencies guidance on possible security threats.

During a series of interviews on network news programs, she was asked about the report's assertion that some U.S. military veterans could be seen as potential converts to right-wing extremism during a down economy.

The report was "an assessment, not an accusation," Napolitano said. "We do not mean to suggest that veterans as a whole are at risk of becoming violent extremists."

She also said: "I apologize for that offense. It was certainly not intended."

Napolitano suggested that critics have taken the report's findings out of context and that there has been a lot of political spinning "out there in Washington, D.C. land."

Several lawmakers, the American Legion and the Vets for Freedom organization took offense to the report. The Veterans of Foreign Wars defended it as an assessment, not an accusation.

In February, the department issued a similar warning about possible cyber attacks from left wing extremists. In September, the agency reported that right-wing extremists over the past five years had used the immigration debate as a recruiting tool. Since September, the agency issued at least four reports on individual domestic extremist groups such as Hammerskin Nation, a skinhead organization.

In the Sept. 26, 2008, Hammerskin assessment, the agency says that a number of the group's members have received "extensive military training" and served in Iraq and Afghanistan. The report said the veterans have the training needed to build large scale bombs, like the type used in the Oklahoma City bombing.

The senior Democrat of the House committee with oversight of the department said the most recent report raises privacy and civil liberty issues. "This report appears to have blurred the line between violent belief, which is constitutionally protected, and violent action, which is not," Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., wrote in a letter to Napolitano.

Thompson issued a report in 2005 urging the department to do more to counter the activities of right- wing extremists. But the report did not mention the military or veterans.

House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, assailed Napolitano's department for the report and pressed the agency to apologize to veterans. "To characterize men and women returning home after defending our country as potential terrorists is offensive and unacceptable," Boehner said Wednesday.

Asked about Boehner's remarks, Napolitano said, "He wants to make some political hay."

The report has turned into a "political football," Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., said. Harman, who chairs a House subcommittee on intelligence and information sharing, said the report could have been written more artfully, but "it was a well-intended effort to describe to law enforcement what things to look for."

Harman said, "If the result is to dumb down intelligence products that could prevent the next attack to the homeland, we will all lose."

Napolitano appeared Thursday on CBS's "The Early Show," ABC's "Good Morning America," NBC's "Today" show, CNN and MSNBC.

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Anonymous

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Yep- rightwingernuts want it censored so it don't hurt their paranoid little feelings :???: :roll: :wink: :p :lol:
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Yep- rightwingernuts want it censored so it don't hurt their paranoid little feelings :???: :roll: :wink: :p :lol:

nope, I want the person or people who wrote it to be fired..
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Yep- rightwingernuts want it censored so it don't hurt their paranoid little feelings :???: :roll: :wink: :p :lol:

How is it paranoia when it's written? Can't you see what is going on here? This is much more than the party in power bad-mouthing the other party as has happened since this country was founded. This is the party in power using the power of the government in an effort to quash all opposition. This is what tyrants do, OT. You then toss in CNN, MSNBC, etc.... with their hyper biased "coverage" and this is truly scary!
 

RobertMac

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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Yep- rightwingernuts want it censored so it don't hurt their paranoid little feelings :???: :roll: :wink: :p :lol:

How is it paranoia when it's written? Can't you see what is going on here? This is much more than the party in power bad-mouthing the other party as has happened since this country was founded. This is the party in power using the power of the government in an effort to quash all opposition. This is what tyrants do, OT. You then toss in CNN, MSNBC, etc.... with their hyper biased "coverage" and this is truly scary!

Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The liberal Democrat leadership and the progressive movement(led by the main stream media) would deny these rights to those that disagree with them!!!!!
 
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And since the FBI did the initial study several years ago that found that returning military from a war zone have a higher tendency to become involved with extremists or extremist groups----FIRE all the FBI too- eh :???:

Just a little bunch of conspiracist, paranoid, dribble in their shorts when anyone says boo, rightwingernut extremists have any problem with the FBI's profile/assessment.....And now their cultist leadership has found another post to hang their hat on in their fearmongering and hatemongering tirades- and they're riding it into the ground....

The same type assessments have been done since LBJ days I know (probably long before that)-and by every Administration/Justice Dept up to now....And they found the same info about returning military that are brought home and just thrown on the street...

And as I posted in the post the other day- it was Reagan that signed the 1983 law setting up the 4 Regional intelligence swapping databases- that were made up intentionally the way they were, so they could subvert all Federal FOIA problems....
 

backhoeboogie

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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
Yep- rightwingernuts want it censored so it don't hurt their paranoid little feelings :???: :roll: :wink: :p :lol:

OT, you are the epitomy of idiocy.

AND the most paranoid poster on this forum over the last year.

He needs to go through an emergency response drill with all the Fed organizations. They can't comprehend a verbal expression between professionals using 3 way communication so you give it to them in writing and they still get it wrong and escalate to the wrong mode. You get Obama's appionted official in Washington on the phone and it is even worse.
 

Mike

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And since the FBI did the initial study several years ago that found that returning military from a war zone have a higher tendency to become involved with extremists or extremist groups----FIRE all the FBI too- eh

I have done a little studying on your "so-called" FBI study Fat Man.

Much/most of the information used by the FBI and the hate mongering incuded in it came from a group right here in my back yard. The "Southern Poverty Law Center".

This Org. has long been known to exploit blacks to get their "Church Donation" money and use fear as a weapon to line his nest.

There is no credibility in this FBI study. None. When they stoop so low as to use bogus info that is known to be false.......the whole bunch should be run out of town on a rail. I don't care whose Admin was in charge.

If you want to get into details about it, I am prepared to do so. You will be surprised........I promise. This bunch has fear-mongered the blacks for years and years.................

I first met the man in the 1960's that founded this Org. when he was selling tractor seats door to door & farm to farm.
 
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I was quite aware that GW and his FBI contracted much of the assessment work out to private entities and non profit institutions...Thats called privatization- and was probably rightly done to keep out any perceptions of political bias...As Reader 2 can tell you- much of the assessment work on everything in D.C. is contracted to private entities...

Just because YOU don't walk the walk of most these institutions- doesn't mean it is not true- or is not consistent with the feelings of the majority of the experts and population of the country....

What does the KKK call your institution :???:
 

Mike

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Contact: Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC)

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March 26, 2009

ALIPAC is issuing a national advisory to all local, state, and Federal law enforcement agencies and officers, along with all DHS Fusion Centers, a warning against any reliance upon faulty and politicized research issued by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and Anti Defamation League (ADL).

A national scandal emerged in Missouri, after their MIAC Fusion Center issued an eight page document which made many false claims. The documents attempted to politicize police and cast suspicion on millions of Americans. The Missouri Documents, as they came to be called, listed over 32 characteristics police should watch for as signs or links to domestic terrorists, which could threaten police officers, court officials, and infrastructure targets.

Police were instructed to look for Americans who were concerned about unemployment, taxes, illegal immigration, gangs, border security, abortion, high costs of living, gun restrictions, FEMA, the IRS, the Federal Reserve, and the North American Union/SPP/North American Community. The Missouri Documents also said potential domestic terrorists might like gun shows, short wave radios, combat movies, movies with white male heroes, Tom Clancy novels, and Presidential candidates Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and Chuck Baldwin!

The Southern Poverty Law Center was cited as a research source for the Missouri Documents. Furthermore, the attempt of these documents to cast suspicion of violent and life threatening behavior on millions of Americans who are concerned about these issues is consistent with the regularly released political materials of both the SPLC and ADL.

Since the SPLC was listed as a source in the MIAC Missouri Documents, ALIPAC sent a letter of inquiry to the Missouri Governor Jay Nixon on March 20, 2009 asking for more specific sourcing information.

"When many of us read these Missouri Documents we felt that the false connections, pseudo research, and political attacks found in these documents could have been penned by the SPLC and ADL," said William Gheen of ALIPAC. "We were shocked to see credible law enforcement agencies disseminating the same kind of over the top political propaganda distributed by these groups."

Colonel James F. Keathley, Superintendent of the Missouri State Highway Patrol issued a letter of response to ALIPAC and other sources on March 25-26, which states that the Missouri militia documents are being withdrawn, more oversight will be applied to future releases, the Missouri Documents do not meet the high quality standards expected from the MIAC, and that "certain subsets of Missourians will not be singled out inappropriately in these reports for particular associations".

ALIPAC would like to advise all media sources, law enforcement officers and agencies, that the ADL and SPLC are political organizations, with stated political goals and agendas which are contrary to the candidates, political parties, and millions of Americans besmirched by the MIAC documents.

While both the ADL and SPLC actively market themselves and seek roles as advisers to law enforcement and the media, both groups regularly engage in political tactics like those observed in the now withdrawn Missouri Documents. Materials from one or both organizations contributed to this scandal.

"In the past, these groups have served a helpful role…" said William Gheen. "Unfortunately, their mission has drifted into political efforts to paint almost any American or group who opposes their broader political agendas as being associated with racist or potentially violent groups just like what we saw in these scandalous MIAC documents in Missouri."

ALIPAC hopes that future scandals can be avoided by issuing this advisory and promoting awareness of the faulty information distributed to police and media in America by the Anti Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Center to prevent future scandals of this nature.

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Mike

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Nurturing justice or cashing in? [Morris Dees..the Jim and Tammy Faye of the Civil Rights Movement]
Roanoke Times

To his admirers, Morris Dees is one of the nation's top civil rights lawyers, a man who put his life on the line for racial justice by facing down Klansmen and neo-Nazis in court. NBC broadcast a made-for-TV movie about him. Life Magazine named him a hero of the year for 1998. U.S. Rep. John Lewis of Georgia, one of the heroes of the 1960s' civil rights confrontations, has called Dees "one of the most persistent seekers of truth and justice in the South."

All this positive attention helps put the chief trial counsel for the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center in constant demand as a speaker across the nation - producing a busy schedule of appearances that will bring him to Roanoke College on Thursday .

To his critics, Dees is not so much a crusader for justice as a slick showman who uses fears of racial violence to enrich himself and his organization. They say SPLC is primarily a fund-raising machine that sucks donations away from other civil rights organizations. SPLC, these detractors say, does little to address difficult issues - such as voting rights and affirmative action - that are of more concern among poor and minority Americans than the acts of scattered Ku Klux Klan groups and right-wing militias.

Stephen Bright of the Southern Center of Human Rights, an Atlanta-based anti-death-penalty group, calls Dees "a fraud and a con man" who has "milked a lot of very wonderful, well-intentioned people."

A scathing article in the November 2000 Harper's Magazine quoted one critic who called Dees the "Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker of the civil rights movement." The article charged that SPLC relies on emotional pleas that suggest the organization is under terrible financial stress, skirting the fact that SPLC is the wealthiest civil rights group in America.
 

hypocritexposer

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Anybody starting to see some connection to the organizations Obama was linked to pre-election, the media, those that he is appointing, and how it is being written in official documents and who it targets?

Wake up people

Reader, I know you're busy with work and all, so maybe just maybe, you might take a look at why someone with the time to research these connections, and a view from outside the situation, might be spending time on a Ranchers site with daily updates on what's happening!
 

hypocritexposer

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reader (the Second) said:
hypocritexposer said:
Anybody starting to see some connection to the organizations Obama was linked to pre-election, the media, those that he is appointing, and how it is being written in official documents and who it targets?

Wake up people

Reader, I know you're busy with work and all, so maybe just maybe, you might take a look at why someone with the time to research these connections, and a view from outside the situation, might be spending time on a Ranchers site with daily updates on what's happening!

Sorry, I was out with friends and then celebrated my son's 25th b'day. Could you catch me up and rephrase your question?

You're like OT, you play stupid unconvincingly! You've added a twist though, being unavailable to be convincing!
 
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