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Did DJT Suggest Violence Against Hillary?

Mike

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The Republican nominee was speaking at a rally in Wilmington, North Carolina, about the next president’s power to appoint supreme court justices. “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” he said, adding: “Although the second amendment people – maybe there is, I don’t know.”


“This is simple – what Trump is saying is dangerous,” said Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook. “A person seeking to be the president of the United States should not suggest violence in any way.”

Watch the Media run with this.........................Amazing!!!!!!!
 

Faster horses

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Especially in light of the fact they can't seem to put 2+2 together and come up admitting that $4 Million was ransom money paid for those sailors.
Funny, their lives were worth that much, but the 4 guys who died in Benghazi were worth ZERO.

Plus, they just don't seem to want to know that we were in Benghazi for a gun-running operation.

There will be way more made about Trumps comment than either of the above important happenings.
 

Mike

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WILMINGTON, N.C. (AP) -- Donald Trump said Tuesday that Second Amendment advocates might find a way to stop Hillary Clinton from rolling back gun rights if she's elected, setting off a political firestorm as Democrats quickly accused him of encouraging violence against his opponent.

Speaking at a rally in Wilmington, North Carolina, the Republican nominee said incorrectly his general election opponent wants to "abolish, essentially, the Second Amendment."

He continued: "By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know."

Trump did not elaborate on his meaning. But within minutes, Clinton's campaign and an outside group backing her candidacy denounced the celebrity businessman's remarks as an attempt to incite violence.

"This is simple - what Trump is saying is dangerous," said Robby Mook, Clinton's campaign manager. "A person seeking to be the president of the United States should not suggest violence in any way."

The pro-Clinton group Priorities USA blasted out an email with the subject line: "Donald Trump Just Suggested That Someone Shoot Hillary Clinton."

The Trump campaign was equally quick to dispute that interpretation of his remarks, saying he was simply touting the "amazing spirit" of Second Amendment supporters.

"It's called the power of unification - Second Amendment people have amazing spirit and are tremendously unified, which gives them great political power," said Jason Miller, Trump's senior communications adviser. "And this year, they will be voting in record numbers, and it won't be for Hillary Clinton, it will be for Donald Trump."

Catherine Milhoan, a spokeswoman for the Secret Service, said, "We are aware of his comments." She declined to answer any additional questions about Trump's remarks.

The Second Amendment provides a constitutional right to citizens to own firearms. Clinton supports some new restrictions on gun ownership, but does not advocate overturning the amendment.

The GOP candidate's distortion of Clinton's position on the Second Amendment and his comments Tuesday prove "how dangerous Trump really is," said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

"What Donald Trump said today is repulsive, literally using the Second Amendment as cover to encourage people to kill someone with whom they disagree," said Gross, whose group is named for James Brady, a White House press secretary wounded in the 1981 assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan.

Trump's remarks immediately set off a firestorm of criticism on social media and threatened to upstage discussion of his economic policy speech the day before and his swing through the key battleground state of North Carolina.

Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy, a Democrat and a leading advocate for stronger gun safety laws, called Trump's comments "disgusting and embarrassing and sad."

"This isn't play," Murphy wrote on Twitter. "Unstable people with powerful guns and an unhinged hatred for Hillary are listening to you, @realDonaldTrump."

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, the liberal Democrat who has tangled frequently with Trump online, said on Twitter that Trump "makes death threats because he's a pathetic coward who can't handle the fact that he's losing to a girl."

The National Rifle Association, the powerful pro-gun lobby that has endorsed Trump, posted a pair of tweets in support of the Republican nominee.

One read: "@RealDonaldTrump is right. If @HillaryClinton gets to pick her anti-#2A #SCOTUS judges, there's nothing we can do. #NeverHillary."

The second read: "But there IS something we will do on #ElectionDay: Show up and vote for the #2A! #DefendtheSecond #NeverHillary."

But even some Trump supporters appeared taken aback by the nominee's comments. A video of the rally shows a man seated behind Trump open his mouth in disbelief and turn to his companion with a puzzled look on his face after Trump made the remark.

Campaigning in Pennsylvania, Trump's running mate, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, said Trump was "very clear" in what he meant.

"Donald Trump is urging people around this country to act in a manner consistent with their convictions in the course of this election, and people who cherish the Second Amendment have a very clear choice in this election," he told Philadelphia's NBC affiliate.

Trump's comments came a few weeks after one of his campaign advisers said "Hillary Clinton should be put in the firing line and shot for treason."

The Secret Service is investigating those remarks, made last month by Al Baldasaro, a New Hampshire state lawmaker and an adviser to Trump on veterans' issues. Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks said then that neither Trump nor his campaign agree with Baldasaro's comments.

Trump's comments Tuesday were reminiscent of the "Second Amendment remedies" floated in 2010 by Sharron Angle, a Nevada Senate candidate who was criticized for seeming to allude to a call for violence.

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Mike

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The feminist activist group UltraViolet condemned Donald Trump’s comments on the Second Amendment on Tuesday, saying that he had threatened violence against Hillary Clinton, and that he had done so because she is a woman.
Nita Chaudhry, the group’s co-founder, issued a statement:

“If you thought Donald Trump couldn’t sink any lower you were wrong. His continued insistence that if the first woman president is elected it will be illegitimate, ‘rigged,’ and now worthy of ‘second amendment’ remedies is beyond the pale, but not surprising from a man whose life has been dedicated to denigrating women and whose campaign has been built on espousing violence against his so-called political enemies. This kind of rhetoric from a presidential candidate is dangerous and it ought to horrify every American.”

Video: Clinton says Trump's insults don't "hurt" anymore
UltraViolet Action describes itself as “an online community of over 1,000,000 women and men who take collective action to expose and fight sexism in the public sector, private sector and the media.”

Trump’s 2nd Amendment threat isn’t that surprising given how he denigrates women & espouses violent rhetoric: https://t.co/z2F6sSHn8i

— UltraViolet (@UltraViolet) August 9, 2016

Though it has not made any recent statements about Bill Clinton’s alleged sexual assaults, UltraViolet Action has targeted conservatives almost exclusively, including U.S. Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-MO), who called Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) the “Darth Vader of the financial services world.”

Chaudhry said the term “Darth Vader” was “offensive, sexist and out of line” when applied to Warren. She also blamed Trump for the remark, telling the Boston Globe: “Comments like these, which sound eerily similar to something that Donald Trump would say, have no place in American politics and speak to the impact that Donald Trump is having on the discourse coming out of the Republican party.”

Trump did not, in fact, call for Clinton or anyone else to be assassinated.

As UltraViolet itself noted in a tweet — unintentionally undoing its own argument — Trump’s rhetoric is simply what gun owners have been saying for decades: that attempts to undo the Second Amendment will be politically, and physically, impossible.

THIS –> Trump’s Violent Claim About The Second Amendment & Hillary Clinton Echoes What The @NRA Has Said For Years https://t.co/JOD9SdOC4f
 

Steve

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I watched the entire part of the speech about the Court justices and the second amendment.

How a person can jump to the conclusion he suggested violence is really a serious stretch.

her is my interpretation.
YES it would be horrible if Clinton is elected and nominates liberal supreme court justices. and the only people who could stop them from taking our other rights are those who obey and follow our Constitution.

is that suggesting violence?
 

Traveler

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Steve said:
I watched the entire part of the speech about the Court justices and the second amendment.

How a person can jump to the conclusion he suggested violence is really a serious stretch.

her is my interpretation.
YES it would be horrible if Clinton is elected and nominates liberal supreme court justices. and the only people who could stop them from taking our other rights are those who obey and follow our Constitution.

is that suggesting violence?
Since Constitutionalists are considered terrorists, it's a very short step to what the left is peeing themselves about.
 

Mike

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loomixguy said:
Still think Drumpf's mouth won't end up costing him the election? You were told.

You have just confirmed your total and absolute stupidity. Just like he quipped about the Russians finding Hillary's 30,000 emails, & the crying baby lies....... his jokes continue to advance his dominance in the media's headlines without a penny spent on air time. The joke is on you.
$52 million to $0: That's how much Hillary's campaign is outspending Trump on TV ads
Anyone with half a brain is recognizing the media's slanted bias and it will affect Hillary negatively in the end.

Even you have fallen for their tricks................................. :lol:

REUTERS - A federal official on Wednesday denied a news report that the U.S. Secret Service had formally spoken with Republican Donald Trump's presidential campaign regarding his suggestion a day earlier that gun rights activists could stop Democratic rival Hillary Clinton from curtailing their access to firearms.

Pushing back against a CNN report that the law enforcement agency had had "more than one" exchange with the Trump camp about the remark, an official familiar with the matter told Reuters there had been no formal conversations with the campaign regarding the comment made to supporters the day before.

"If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks," Trump told a North Carolina campaign rally on Tuesday, accusing Clinton of wanting abolish the Second Amendment by appointing liberal justices to the U.S. Supreme Court.

"Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know," he added, leading some critics to believe Trump was referring to gun violence against his rival.

The controversy came as the campaign tried to stay on message after a contentious previous week. Trump weathered criticism within his own party for delaying endorsements of fellow Republicans and for a prolonged clash with the family of a fallen Muslim American U.S. Army captain.

The campaign denied that inciting violence had been the intent of Tuesday's remark, and on Wednesday said there had been no conversations with the Secret Service about it.

"No such meeting or conversation ever happened," Trump wrote on Twitter, accusing CNN of having made up the report.
 

Mike

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I am all in for the Republican nominee whether it be any of the contestants.

Unlike you, I can't make myself a Hillary supporter.
 

Traveler

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CNN lied, Trump called them out.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/trump-says-cnn-fabricated-story-that-secret-service-contacted-his-campaign/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2016-08-10&utm_campaign=manualpost
 

loomixguy

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Mike said:
I am all in for the Republican nominee whether it be any of the contestants.

Unlike you, I can't make myself a Hillary supporter.

2.0, you're already a supporter of the Benghazi Butcher, you just don't realize it. There's a YUUUGE difference between doing what's right and doing what's popular. Maybe someday you'll understand that. I don't want the BofB as POTUS any more than you do, but I won't vote for a candidate who can't tell the difference between the Constitution and construction paper, and wouldn't understand conservatism if it reared up and bit him in the butt. My beliefs and values aren't for sale at this stage of my life. So, I'll probably take the advice of the best Presidential candidate to come along since Reagan and vote my conscience. If that means just voting the down ticket, so be it.
 

loomixguy

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You're probably right, Brad.... But when the best both parties can come up with are both unhinged New York liberals, one who went so far as to help finance the other, where do you draw the line?

Hillary could vapor lock between now & November. Or be indicted. Same could be said for Drumpf. It's been known to happen to 70 year olds.

I would hope Drumpf gets his shat together and stops acting like a 5th grade bully with a big mouth before November, but I don't see it happening. As I've said before, his mouth will cost him the election. I believe Cruz was dead on when he said if Drumpf is the candidate, the BofB wins by double digits. God help us all.
 

Faster horses

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I listen to Mark Levin, who was totally for Ted Cruz. Yesterday he said he MIGHT vote for Trump, which surprised me. He said he would let us know sometime in September what he decided and why. He is Ultra-Conservative, so this was surprising news. I can't wait to hear his reasons, should he decide to vote for Trump. He makes no bones about it, Hillary would finish the disaster Obama started.
 

Mike

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Faster horses said:
I listen to Mark Levin, who was totally for Ted Cruz. Yesterday he said he MIGHT vote for Trump, which surprised me. He said he would let us know sometime in September what he decided and why. He is Ultra-Conservative, so this was surprising news. I can't wait to hear his reasons, should he decide to vote for Trump. He makes no bones about it, Hillary would finish the disaster Obama started.

MARK LEVIN: Now those people out there, those people out there who are saying ‘stop Trump,’ I can understand ‘stop Trump’ in a primary process. But stop Trump or you’ll vote for Hillary? Stop Trump or you won’t vote at all? These people are not conservatives. They’re not constitutionalists. They’re frauds. They’re fakes. They’re not brave. They’re asinine. They’re buffoons...

If you believe that Hillary Clinton is in part responsible for the rise of ISIS and for what took care of Benghazi and what’s taking place in Libya and that [Vladimir] Putin is on the move and that China is on the move and all the rest of it, then how the hell – how the hell could you take any steps – passively or affirmatively that would put that woman in the Oval Office?

How could you do it under these circumstances as bad as the Republican may be, how could you stay home and allow that? Or worse, how could you vote for that? That’s a disgrace, an absolute disgrace. So you duke it out in the Republican primary process. You duke it out Republican convention. You insist that rules are rules and the rules be followed. And you call them out if they try to change them. And you fight like hell. But you do not vote for Hillary Clinton. Or you don’t not stay home. ‘Wah, my candidate isn’t nominated,’ and let the left elect their favorite candidate. Not in this election. That’s my view.
 

loomixguy

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Michael Reagan is also "supporting" Drumpf....but he's none too happy about it. Lots of time between now & November. It's a hell of a deal when either choice is like asking which would you rather have, syphillis or gonorrhea.
 

Brad S

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Trump's comment about the second amendment guys stoping a Clinton appointee is clearly referencing what the left has whined about for decades. The nra guys might give the pubs the backbone to filibuster a klinton appointee with the disproportionate power of the nra and their legions.

The problem is: all of us, left, right, or anyone else that's not high on pot knows it's way way past time for the tree of liberty to be watered. When Nixon whizzed on the constitution, he was dissed from power. When Obama had the IRS persecuting political opponents, nothing. Klinton skated on so many charges, like we all knew she would. Our criminal justice system is officially Cuba. The surest way to find yourself an enemy of the state is tell the truth and quote founding fathers. Klinton is a shameless criminal - beyond the reach of the law. And this fact is inescapable. American DNA holds the individual has a right and even obligation to oppose tyranny. When government officials can tell obvious lies with impunity - well, the founders were clear. Trump didn't suggest revolution, but he didn't need to.
 

Mike

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Brad S said:
Trump's comment about the second amendment guys stoping a Clinton appointee is clearly referencing what the left has whined about for decades. The nra guys might give the pubs the backbone to filibuster a klinton appointee with the disproportionate power of the nra and their legions.

The problem is: all of us, left, right, or anyone else that's not high on pot knows it's way way past time for the tree of liberty to be watered. When Nixon whizzed on the constitution, he was dissed from power. When Obama had the IRS persecuting political opponents, nothing. Klinton skated on so many charges, like we all knew she would. Our criminal justice system is officially Cuba. The surest way to find yourself an enemy of the state is tell the truth and quote founding fathers. Klinton is a shameless criminal - beyond the reach of the law. And this fact is inescapable. American DNA holds the individual has a right and even obligation to oppose tyranny. When government officials can tell obvious lies with impunity - well, the founders were clear. Trump didn't suggest revolution, but he didn't need to.

Yep. Well said. I read the other day that the "Don't Tread On Me" symbol had been adjudicated as bigotry in some U.S. Court.
 

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