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Did ya hear it....did ya??????

kolanuraven

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Did ya hear....no more " stay the course'....and I heard the news conference w/ Gen Casey and the Iraqi Ambassador....and they both used the word TIME TABLE!!!!!

Say it ain't so...you Rep's....say it ain't so!!!

See...... we told ya'll it was a bad idea! It took thousands of lives and millions, edit, BILLIONS of dollars for the Rep's to see that now. Such a shame and waste.


The November 7 elections will determine whether Republicans retain control of Congress, and lawmakers in both parties are calling on President Bush to change his war plans.

"We're on the verge of chaos, and the current plan is not working," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, said in an Associated Press interview. U.S. and Iraqi officials should be held accountable for the lack of progress, said Graham, a Republican who is a frequent critic of the administration's policies.

Asked who in particular should be held accountable -- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, perhaps, or the generals leading the war -- Graham said: "All of them. It's their job to come up with a game plan" to end the violence.


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Southdakotahunter

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From Fox News.....

BAGHDAD, Iraq — U.S. officials said Tuesday Iraqi forces should be able to take full control of security in the country in the next 12 to 18 months with "some level" of American support, and Iraq's leaders have agreed to produce a timeline for making "hard decisions" to ensure progress in stabilizing Iraq.

"We are about 75 percent of the way through a three-step process in building those (Iraqi) forces," Gen. George Casey said at a joint news conference alongside U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad in Baghdad's Green Zone.

"It is going to take another 12 to 18 months or so 'til I believe the Iraqi security forces are completely capable of taking over responsibility for their own security that's still coupled with some level of support from us," said Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq.

Casey said he felt the United States should continue to focus on drawing down American forces in the country, adding that he would not hesitate to ask for more troops if he felt they were necessary.




Where does it say we are leaving on a certain time????
 

RoperAB

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I see no end of the war in sight.
Democracys loose the will to fight after 6 or 7 years but the islamofacist dont.
If we withdraw its only a matter of time before we have to go back.
Or the war is just going to follow our soldiers back home here.
The way its looking we are going to be about like Israel in a constant state of war. I see no real peace in the next twenty years unless we start killing a lot bigger numbers of the other side.
Im not saying this because I like war, Im just being real.
Say even if we get total success in Afghanistan and Iraq. The front line will just move someplace else.
 

jigs

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kolanuraven said:
SDH....watch the news the word " time table" is on every news broadcast.

Even crossed the lips of Gen. Casey!!!


Told ya!

sorry, the "news" is nothing more than a liberal propaganda machine. the BBC evven came out today and admitted to airing liberal slanted news and anti america/ anti war shows...... CNN ABC NBC and CBS are all guilty of it too.

how many news broadcasts in the past year have shown the dead American soldiers and dead Iraqi civilians???? now how many showed the progress we have made in Iraq????

no news network is REPORTING, they are all POLITICING with the events of the day.
 

jigs

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there is progress, we are doing great things over there.

what we need to do to curb the violence would be reported as war crimes or something to make us look bad. those reporters need to remember that the only reason they are not shot at is because the enemy uses them as thier greatest weapon. how sad that the reporters can sell out thier country like they do.
 

kolanuraven

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Well...WHAT progress? As your buddy Katrina likes to state " prove it".

How can we be making progress when Oct has been the bloodiest month for our armed services to date?
 

memanpa

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some of the bloodiest and deadly battles of ww1 and ww2 were right before the end of both wars! blood and death for both sides!!
even korea!
if the political agendas of BOTH parties would have stayed the he11 out and let the military do thier job this whould have been over a long time ago. but no we must be politically correct according to the bleeding hearts, ! thus restrictions on who what where we can fight!
our enemy fights without those restrictions and the bleeding hearts wring their hands and proclaim "OHHH WOE IS ME" and wonder why we can't come home!! the liberals have caused as much or more damage in this war as they did in NAM !!! musn't step on someones toes for fear of upseting or insulting someone

and to those who see into the future with such great powers in order to predict what will happen in the future where the he11 were you when all this started? why didn't you WARN the WORLD????????
or is it just that you are not as astute as you claim to be
 

Econ101

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memanpa said:
some of the bloodiest and deadly battles of ww1 and ww2 were right before the end of both wars! blood and death for both sides!!
even korea!
if the political agendas of BOTH parties would have stayed the he11 out and let the military do thier job this whould have been over a long time ago. but no we must be politically correct according to the bleeding hearts, ! thus restrictions on who what where we can fight!
our enemy fights without those restrictions and the bleeding hearts wring their hands and proclaim "OHHH WOE IS ME" and wonder why we can't come home!! the liberals have caused as much or more damage in this war as they did in NAM !!! musn't step on someones toes for fear of upseting or insulting someone

and to those who see into the future with such great powers in order to predict what will happen in the future where the he11 were you when all this started? why didn't you WARN the WORLD????????
or is it just that you are not as astute as you claim to be

Liberals didn't cause any of this damage, some idiot decisions right after the war did.
 

kolanuraven

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MM& P....I have always said Iraq was/is a bad move!! Wrong place for the wrong war.

Yeah, they hate us NOW...cause we went into the wrong place and kicked the ant hill. I'd be pissed to if I were the Iraqi citizens.

Don't get mad @ me cause what I've been saying, ' we need to get out', maybe be coming true in the very near future. The Beloved Bush is even starting to change his tune!!!
 

Southdakotahunter

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a very small percentage are causing probs, the vast majority are glad we came and got rid of the ruthless Sadam and his murdering sons. If you ask the soldiers that come home, they understand the war, they believe in themselfs and the US, they also see the goodthings happening.........

Woe is me......woe is me........Back in 57, 67, 77, or even 87, would you or anyone for that matter, think we would have a unified europe? Would you or anyone have ever though the Berlin Wall would have come down? would you or anyone have ever thought a country spanning 5 or more timezones and having 30 thousand or more nukes to fall? Nope and if we just up and pullout, my kid will be back there in 10 years trying to clean up the prob again.
 

kolanuraven

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Nobody has had to go back to Vietnam....and we pulled out of there and let them tend to their own business. Back then there was not greater " bad guy" and a "VC Commie".
 

RoperAB

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kolanuraven said:
Nobody has had to go back to Vietnam....and we pulled out of there and let them tend to their own business. Back then there was not greater " bad guy" and a "VC Commie".

Its a completely different situation. If the VC converted to Islam and if Vietnam was sitting on resources that could fund their Jihad we would have to go back.
 

andybob

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kolanuraven said:
Nobody has had to go back to Vietnam....and we pulled out of there and let them tend to their own business. Back then there was not greater " bad guy" and a "VC Commie".
Not quite their own business, the end of the Vietnam war saw a flood of Chinese 'advisers' and tons of weapons flood into Africa, they were involved in just about every internal and regeonal conflict for the next15 years,a fact totally overlooked by the western press!
 

kolanuraven

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Don't you see...just the mere fact that the Bush Bunch is NOW using the word " timetable" is significant.

Before if ANYONE used that word, Bush Bunch labeled them as " cut & run"....so this means that they are considering how to ' crawfish' out of this mess!!!
 
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Southdakotahunter said:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,224832,00.html



Here ya go....read up on your timetable to pull out........

"It’s deeply disturbing that it takes a close election – not in Iraq, but in America – to get this White House to even talk about flexibility and changing course," added Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., in a separate statement. "Only the prospect of losing his rubber stamp Congress and the president’s own low polls seem to penetrate the wall of denial around 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue."

About the first thing I and ole Ted ever agreed on...But I don't think its just GW and the administration thats lost touch with the voters- Congress gets an F grade in the listening course too.....
 

Southdakotahunter

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this is from my first post on this subject......



BAGHDAD, Iraq — U.S. officials said Tuesday Iraqi forces should be able to take full control of security in the country in the next 12 to 18 months with "some level" of American support, and Iraq's leaders have agreed to produce a timeline for making "hard decisions" to ensure progress in stabilizing Iraq.



As you can see, the word timetable is for the Iraqi government..
 

Econ101

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Southdakotahunter said:
this is from my first post on this subject......



BAGHDAD, Iraq — U.S. officials said Tuesday Iraqi forces should be able to take full control of security in the country in the next 12 to 18 months with "some level" of American support, and Iraq's leaders have agreed to produce a timeline for making "hard decisions" to ensure progress in stabilizing Iraq.



As you can see, the word timetable is for the Iraqi government..

As it should have been from the start.
 
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