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Hanta Yo

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This should get you dems a little excited :wink:
Turn up the volume, it may sound a little far away.


http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/mandyjo62/?action=view&current=digitalediting.flv
 

Work Hard and Study Hard

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please explain why you hate dems. Don't pf around, if you must listen to Rush or Hannity please do. But please explain why you consider yourself an agricultural person and support Bush at the same time.
 

Soapweed

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Work Hard and Study Hard said:
please explain why you hate dems. Don't pf around, if you must listen to Rush or Hannity please do. But please explain why you consider yourself an agricultural person and support Bush at the same time.

Al Gore, a famous Liberal hero, is the one who told American FFA kids to not fool with agrictulture because it should all be done in third world countries. With brilliance like that in the Liberal leadership, you guys really have a star to shoot for.
 

Steve

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WHSH
please explain why you hate dems. Don't pf around,

I think most of us have answered this over and over again....

But I will try again....first off I don't listen to Rush,...and often I don't have time to listen to Hannity.

So this is my "own answer".

I don't hate any one,....I can't even bring myself to hate..Osama....let alone a Democrat....Having grown up seeing hatred in a fews' eyes and haveing gone to the gulf and seen it in manys eyes and actions, I will not allow myself the dispair of hate,...it is an evil that eats at one like a cancer....so no,... I hate no one,...it is not worth it.

I think the liberals have watered down the real meaning of many words including hate.,..every thing is Awesome,,,,everyone hates Bush....yada yada,.....and so on...

Hate should be a swear word. the worse one. nothing sadder then a child saying they hate Mommy,...the saddest part is when it is not challanged ......let alone questioned,...

Well does that answer your question?,... Bet, you never heard Hannity or Rush answer it this way.....
 

Steve

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WHSH
But please explain why you consider yourself an agricultural person and support Bush at the same time.

Seeing the liberal policy against Farming/Ranching in this area would be enough to get any one to vote Republican....

I seldom agree with the fed policy in the whole on Ag....

I would like to see the welfare (food stamps) put in the budget it belongs in...then the world would see the actual bargain the US farmers and ranchers are....

But the demorats will not do that because it would expose more of the real cost of the welfare program to the voters....

Approximately three-fourths of total USDA spending is classified as mandatory, which by definition occurs outside the control of annual appropriations. Eligibility for mandatory programs is usually written into authorizing law, and any individual or entity that meets the eligibility requirements is entitled to the benefits authorized by the law. Currently accounting for the vast majority of USDA mandatory spending are the food stamp programs.
 

TSR

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Steve said:
WHSH
But please explain why you consider yourself an agricultural person and support Bush at the same time.

Seeing the liberal policy against Farming/Ranching in this area would be enough to get any one to vote Republican....

I seldom agree with the fed policy in the whole on Ag....

I would like to see the welfare (food stamps) put in the budget it belongs in...then the world would see the actual bargain the US farmers and ranchers are....

But the demorats will not do that because it would expose more of the real cost of the welfare program to the voters....

Approximately three-fourths of total USDA spending is classified as mandatory, which by definition occurs outside the control of annual appropriations. Eligibility for mandatory programs is usually written into authorizing law, and any individual or entity that meets the eligibility requirements is entitled to the benefits authorized by the law. Currently accounting for the vast majority of USDA mandatory spending are the food stamp programs.

"But the Democrats will not do that because.......... " Steve, Just who has been in the majority until recently???? BTW Steve, if welfare programs that benefit those that don't qualify(cheaters in whatever manner to get benefits) were eliminated, or could be eliminated, do you think our prisons would be big enough to hold them all?? I really believe that some are paid welfare as a means of keeping them out of jail ( a terrible system IMO) at least MOST of the time, but maybe cost -effective. What to do about it? Seems to me that each case should be reviewed periodically to see if that person has made progess to become independent of welfare or if he is capable of such physically at a later date.
 

movin' on

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Steve, that's GREAT!! I don't allow the word hate to be used in my house! It is a dirty, nasty word and I wouldn't care if I never heard it used again.
 

Work Hard and Study Hard

Well-known member
Steve said:
WHSH
But please explain why you consider yourself an agricultural person and support Bush at the same time.

Seeing the liberal policy against Farming/Ranching in this area would be enough to get any one to vote Republican....

I seldom agree with the fed policy in the whole on Ag....

I would like to see the welfare (food stamps) put in the budget it belongs in...then the world would see the actual bargain the US farmers and ranchers are....

But the demorats will not do that because it would expose more of the real cost of the welfare program to the voters....

Approximately three-fourths of total USDA spending is classified as mandatory, which by definition occurs outside the control of annual appropriations. Eligibility for mandatory programs is usually written into authorizing law, and any individual or entity that meets the eligibility requirements is entitled to the benefits authorized by the law. Currently accounting for the vast majority of USDA mandatory spending are the food stamp programs.


No, you'll just sit by as the president enters into more and more back ended free trade agreements that screw the US farmer and rancher. As much as you profess to hate the French we are playing into the EU's hands with more FTA's and less subsidies. I will agree the US farm subsidy system seems to be broken and I'm glad bush want's to limit farm subsidies to anyone with an adjusted gross farm income over $200,000. To many Bush buddies have farms and ranches soley as tax shelters. One problem I have is that government loan programs will take a hit as they are "sought after by trade unions". If any ag program works in this country I would think it would be this one. Any way it's good to see Bush finally has got something right, i've been waiting 6 years.
 

movin' on

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Steve, did you send Work/Study a personal message saying that you "hate" the French? Must have because what you posted on the board very clearly stated that you don't hate anybody. Guess I missed something?
 

HrsRdr

Member
Agriculture is such an important part of the US economy and it is important to keep it strong. Its also a great way to live. With the challenges from countries in the WTO, Bush has put forward a good farm bill proposal that provides room for Congress to establish US farm policy not the WTO.

Amen on the Gore comment--remember that. The libs do want to make the US a service society--whacky as that seems. Fortunately God is on our side and gave us President Bush instead of Gore. They should have to get face to face with the wildlife they want to reinstate and 'save'. That would be a funny sight. I guess they'd rather they be smashed by autos and left to die along the road versus hunted--go figure. IMHO. HALJA'es.
 

TSR

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Work Hard and Study Hard said:
Steve said:
WHSH
But please explain why you consider yourself an agricultural person and support Bush at the same time.

Seeing the liberal policy against Farming/Ranching in this area would be enough to get any one to vote Republican....

I seldom agree with the fed policy in the whole on Ag....

I would like to see the welfare (food stamps) put in the budget it belongs in...then the world would see the actual bargain the US farmers and ranchers are....

But the demorats will not do that because it would expose more of the real cost of the welfare program to the voters....

Approximately three-fourths of total USDA spending is classified as mandatory, which by definition occurs outside the control of annual appropriations. Eligibility for mandatory programs is usually written into authorizing law, and any individual or entity that meets the eligibility requirements is entitled to the benefits authorized by the law. Currently accounting for the vast majority of USDA mandatory spending are the food stamp programs.


No, you'll just sit by as the president enters into more and more back ended free trade agreements that screw the US farmer and rancher. As much as you profess to hate the French we are playing into the EU's hands with more FTA's and less subsidies. I will agree the US farm subsidy system seems to be broken and I'm glad bush want's to limit farm subsidies to anyone with an adjusted gross farm income over $200,000. To many Bush buddies have farms and ranches soley as tax shelters. One problem I have is that government loan programs will take a hit as they are "sought after by trade unions". If any ag program works in this country I would think it would be this one. Any way it's good to see Bush finally has got something right, i've been waiting 6 years.

WHSH do you think that farmers won't find a way to get around the$200,000 limit?? They already have I've heard them talking about how easy it was. I wonder if the administration knew that when it passed such a lmit?
 

kolanuraven

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But why should one have to resort to having to " find a way" around things when most of them should NOT have ever been put in place by this admin. in the first place?


This admin. ,Prez, likes to strut around in jeans and swing a chainsaw and pretend he's one of ' the people'....well then look out for ' the people', eventhough they didn't elect him, he's got the job now!
 

Red Robin

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kolanuraven said:
eventhough they didn't elect him, he's got the job now!
.......and the world is billions or years old, the universe started out of "nothing", the democrats are here to help you, etc. You are unaware of reality.
 

Steve

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Steve, did you send Work/Study a personal message saying that you "hate" the French?

I don't hate the French, don't really like them much though...seems to me they are just left of our liberals...(or at least some of our liberals)....

Notice how quickly the debate denigrated into a bash Bush fest?

as for welfare keeping poor folk out of prison....if their character is so poor, that if they lose their handout,.. they would then resort to crime instead of taking care of themselves...then we need to build more prisons....think of the jobs it would create and how peaceful our cities could be......if your a lowlife and would prey on others instead of getting a job....then you should be in prison,....or deported?....
 

Steve

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TSR
if welfare programs that benefit those that don't qualify(cheaters in whatever manner to get benefits) were eliminated, or could be eliminated,

the first step to eliminating the waste is exposure....while the food stamp program and other "welfare" programs are hidden in the Ag budget they get little scrutiny....I would be happy to see them separated from the ag budget for now....

as for welfare keeping poor folk out of prison....if their character is so poor, that if they lose their handout,.. they would then resort to crime instead of taking care of themselves...then we need to build more prisons....think of the jobs it would create and how peaceful our cities could be......if your a lowlife and would prey on others instead of getting a job....then you should be in prison,....or deported?....
 
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