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Direction of the Country

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Anonymous

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The other night I read an interesting magazine article that pretty well relates the direction of our country has taken in the past few years...

The richest man in the world lives in Mexico- the tallest building in the world is in Taipai, and Dubai is building a taller one, with the second tallest being built in Dubai a year and a half later- the largest factory in the world is in China- the largest refinery is in India...Even Vegas is no longer tops- the largest casino hotel now is the Venetian in Macao- and Macao has overtaken Las Vegas with the largest gambling revenues in the world...The 2 largest shopping malls in the world are in China- with all the top 10 shopping malls in the world being outside the US...

Three years ago- the US would have been the tops in many of those categories...And what was the largest economy in the world- is now stagnated and in danger of imploding....

And while the US spends Trillions $ on bombs, troops, and foreign nation building which is raping our economy- and divides the nation, while alienating the population of the rest of the world with our colonialism and warmongering-- the rest of the world is building infrastructure and their economic future...

And history has shown that if a superpower relys solely on its military might, it will fall behind....You just need to look back to the British Empire and see that.....
 

Mike

Well-known member
You call a "Shopping Mall" or a "Casino" INFRASTRUCTURE? :roll:

I KNOW you've lost your mind now......... :lol:

World's Richest Men:

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/10/Rank_1.html
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
You call a "Shopping Mall" or a "Casino" INFRASTRUCTURE? :roll:

I KNOW you've lost your mind now......... :lol:

Yep--I would classify that as economic infrastructure...
 

Mike

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
You call a "Shopping Mall" or a "Casino" INFRASTRUCTURE? :roll:

I KNOW you've lost your mind now......... :lol:

Yep--I would classify that as economic infrastructure...

:roll:
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Infrastructure
Definition

The basic physical systems of a country's or community's population, including roads, utilities, water, sewage, etc. These systems are considered essential for enabling productivity in the economy.

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How about those roads and sewer systems in China? Aren't they nice? :lol:
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
You call a "Shopping Mall" or a "Casino" INFRASTRUCTURE? :roll:

I KNOW you've lost your mind now......... :lol:

Yep--I would classify that as economic infrastructure...

:roll:
____________________________________________________
Infrastructure
Definition

The basic physical systems of a country's or community's population, including roads, utilities, water, sewage, etc. These systems are considered essential for enabling productivity in the economy.

_____________________________________________________

How about those roads and sewer systems in China? Aren't they nice? :lol:




ECONOMIC...is the operative word here. You looked up the PHYSICAL aspects. Two different things.
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
You call a "Shopping Mall" or a "Casino" INFRASTRUCTURE? :roll:

I KNOW you've lost your mind now......... :lol:

Yep--I would classify that as economic infrastructure...

:roll:
____________________________________________________
Infrastructure
Definition

The basic physical systems of a country's or community's population, including roads, utilities, water, sewage, etc. These systems are considered essential for enabling productivity in the economy.

_____________________________________________________

How about those roads and sewer systems in China? Aren't they nice? :lol:

Mike -- you forgot the first part of the definition :shock: Must have just been an oversight- eh-- wouldn't be from taking too many lessons of false and half truths from King George's guidance :???: :wink: :lol: :p

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This in·fra·struc·ture Audio Help (ĭn'frə-strŭk'chər) Pronunciation Key
n.
An underlying base or foundation especially for an organization or system.
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The term ``basic economic infrastructure'' signifies a group of improvements in land-areas which are typified by physical forms of capital investments in the usefulness of land for production and habitation.
 
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Anonymous

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Steve said:
OT
The richest man in the world lives in Mexico-

the Third richest...

Wikpedia lists him as 2nd richest- and reports that Fortune magazine had reported him as the richest... Who knows- with Bushenomics and the current deflating dollar, the whole Forbes ranking may be off from day to day....But even a neocon like you will have to admit he has a few scheckels....

Won't be long and GW will get his wish to make the Peso the same as the US dollar- and old Carlos can convert everything to the Amero...
:roll: :( :mad:

Carlos Slim Helú
From Wikipedia,


Born January 28, 1940 (1940-01-28) (age 68)
Mexico City, Mexico
Occupation Chairman and CEO, Telmex, Telcel and América Móvil
Net worth ▲$60.0 billion USD[1]
Carlos Slim Helú (born January 28, 1940) is a Mexican businessman largely focused on the telecommunications industry. He is the second richest man in the world with a net worth of around U.S. $60 billion through his holdings.[1]


On March 5, 2008, Forbes magazine ranked Slim as the world's second-richest person, behind Warren Buffett and ahead of former world's richest man Bill Gates. During some parts of 2007, several major financial publications had ranked Slim as the richest person on Earth.

On August 8, 2007, Fortune magazine reported that Slim had overtaken Bill Gates as the world's richest man. Slim's estimated fortune soared to US$68 billion, based on the value of his public holdings at the end of July. Microsoft founder Bill Gates' net worth was estimated to be at least US$58 billion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim_Hel%C3%BA


2007 Forbes Ranking
Rank Name Citizenship Age Net Worth ($bil) Residence
1 William Gates III United States 50 50.0 United States
2 Warren Buffett United States 75 42.0 United States
3 Carlos Slim Helu Mexico 66 30.0 Mexico
4 Ingvar Kamprad Sweden 79 28.0 Switzerland
5 Lakshmi Mittal India 55 23.5 United Kingdom
6 Paul Allen United States 53 22.0 United States
7 Bernard Arnault France 57 21.5 France
8 Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud Saudi Arabia 49 20.0 Saudi Arabia
9 Kenneth Thomson & family Canada 82 19.6 Canada
10 Li Ka-shing Hong Kong 77 18.8 Hong Kong
11 Roman Abramovich Russia 39 18.2 United Kingdom
12 Michael Dell United States 41 17.1 United States
13 Karl Albrecht Germany 86 17.0 Germany
14 Sheldon Adelson United States 72 16.1 United States
15 Liliane Bettencourt France 83 16.0 France
 

Steve

Well-known member
to make our country look bad you had to look deep and past facts..

OT
the tallest building in the world is in Taipai, and Dubai is building a taller one, with the second tallest being built in Dubai a year and a half later-

WorldsTallestBuildings.gif


looking at the buildings it is clear we built the tallest.. back in 74.. and the rest added towers / spires to get beyond the rules..

While determining the world's tallest structure has generally been straightforward, the definition of the world's tallest building or the world's tallest tower is less clear. The disputes generally center on what should be counted as a building or a tower, and what is being measured.

One measure includes the absolute height of a building, another includes only spires and other permanent architectural features, but not antennas. The tradition of including the spire on top of a building and not including the antenna dates back to the rivalry between the Chrysler Building and 40 Wall Street. A modern-day example is that the antenna on top of the Sears tower are not considered part of its architectural height, while the spires on top of the Petronas towers are counted.

had you looked for feats in America that you could be proud of.. you would have found...

"Construction has started for a 610 m (2,001 ft) skyscraper in Chicago to be completed in 2011. The Chicago Spire, with 150 floors, will be the tallest residential building in the world."

"The Freedom Tower is now under construction and is the main tower comprising the redevelopment of the site of the former Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York following the attacks of September 11, 2001. Its antenna will reach a height of 541.4 m (1,776 ft)"

having the biggest is not a measure of who has the best..
 

Steve

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Steve said:
having the biggest is not a measure of who has the best..



:lol: :lol: :lol: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

( talking to self....." don't say it....hush.....keep quiet")

if you have to stick a stick on the top to make it biggest, you ain't the biggest.. :wink:

but I think you got my point... :roll: :wink:
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Steve- since you have lots of time to check out (and nitpick :roll: ) things- heres a few more the article listed showing that the while our Bush led country stagnates the world is passing us by- much of it supported by Bush's sell out the US policy....

Largest Brewery- no longer Anheuser Busch of the US- but now InBev of Belgium $16.7 billion in sales....

Largest English Language Paper- was USA Today of the US- but now The Times of India with 3.7 million copies every weekday....

Largest Company- no longer ExxonMobil of the US- but now PetroChina of China with worth of approx. 1 Trillion $...

Largest Commercial Airplane is no longer the Boeing 747 built in the US- but now is the AirBus 380 which carries more than 800 passengers....

Richest Bank is no longer Citigroup US- but now the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China with $254 billion in market capitalization...

And now GW's on course to let the worlds largest Packer (JBS-Brazil) buy out the largest share of the US packing industry in more integration of the industry...
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Steve- since you have lots of time to check out (and nitpick :roll: ) things- heres a few more the article listed showing that the while our Bush led country stagnates the world is passing us by- much of it supported by Bush's sell out the US policy....

Largest Brewery- no longer Anheuser Busch of the US- but now InBev of Belgium $16.7 billion in sales....

Largest English Language Paper- was USA Today of the US- but now The Times of India with 3.7 million copies every weekday....

Largest Company- no longer ExxonMobil of the US- but now PetroChina of China with worth of approx. 1 Trillion $...

Largest Commercial Airplane is no longer the Boeing 747 built in the US- but now is the AirBus 380 which carries more than 800 passengers....

Richest Bank is no longer Citigroup US- but now the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China with $254 billion in market capitalization...

And now GW's on course to let the worlds largest Packer (JBS-Brazil) buy out the largest share of the US packing industry in more integration of the industry...

How much InBev is sold in the U.S.?????

How many India Times is purchased in the U.S??

How many gallons of gas from Petro China is sold in the U.S.?

Gotta love ya OLDWHINER you try to tear down the U.S.A.
With folks like you G.W. appears like a saint !!
 
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Anonymous

Guest
The true conservative publications can see the farcity in Bushenomics- and how GW is selling out our country....Just because he's never had to be accountable for a thing in his life- doesn't mean you can continue to spend without keeping a source of income to pay for it...

MONEYNETDAILY
Will trade deficit trigger depression?
Economists: It's de-industrializing America, leading nation toward 2nd-rate power status


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Posted: April 09, 2008
12:45 am Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily




WASHINGTON – America is selling its birthright not for a mess of pottage, but for a mess of Chinese junk, and the resulting "unsustainable" trade deficit is leading "to the collapse of the dollar, depression and conversion of the United States to a second-rate power," says a new book written by three generations of a family of economists.

"Not only will the United States feel the pain, but other countries will as well," write Raymond, Howard and Jesse Richman in "Trading Away Our Future." "Because other countries are dependent upon the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency and because they are dependent on exports to the United States to sustain their own economies, the eventual collapse of the dollar could wreak havoc on the economies of the whole world."

While some other economists have claimed there is no danger from a trade deficit that has reached nearly $60 billion, and some have even suggested they represent a blessing for Americans, the authors strongly disagree.

"A basic principle of economics is that there is no free lunch," they write. "Those who think that the Chinese, Japanese, Saudis, et al, are giving the United States a free lunch when they sell more than they buy are engaged in short term thinking that ignores huge long term costs."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61121
 

Steve

Well-known member
OldTimer
Steve- since you have lots of time to check out (and nitpick ) things-

your right..I should either quit defending our great country or stop wasting time on those who keep trying to tear it down..

bet your smart enough you can see who I'm going to stop wasting time on.. :roll: :roll: :wink:

cause I will never stop defending this great country..
 
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