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Disarming The Citizenry with Fast & Furious

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When BATF agents first blew the whistle on what is now known as Operation Fast and Furious, the rationale offered by DoJ for such an evidently foolish operation was that it was designed to allow BATF to track and prosecute the leaders of the Mexican drug cartels. As more information surfaced from the Mexican government and the BATF's Mexican bureau chief specifying that none of them knew anything of this operation, many of us who were paying a bit closer attention to the case immediately smelled the first foul scent of corruption.

The fatal flaw in DoJ's explanation was this: if the Mexican authorities had not been brought into the operation, nor even the BATF's own agents authorized to operate in Mexico, then the proffered DoJ justification made utterly no sense, for the simple reason that once those walked guns hit the south side of that border, there was absolutely no process in place to track them to their supposed targets. Therefore, DoJ was patently misrepresenting its motive. Why?

For those who keep a constant wary eye on the left's never-ending war on our 2nd-Amendment right to keep and bear arms, the increasingly fishy smell emanating from Washington led to connecting the dots back to the year-earlier revelations in the liberal media that weapons being used in Mexican crimes were traceable back to American sources more than 90% of the time. That false meme had spread quickly through the major liberal media, along with calls for stricter gun control laws in this country by...guess who! How about our president, our secretary of state, our attorney general, and other notable Democrats, for starters?

Here we had an operation mounted by the executive branch of the United States, an operation which had as its stated goal -- after being outed, that is -- the targeting of Mexican drug lords on sovereign Mexican soil. Yet this was done without the knowledge of anyone in the Mexican government. Quite clearly, a secret and subversive operation had been conceived and implemented against our sister nation to the south -- subversive because, again, quite clearly, the American government was subverting the sovereign authority of Mexico without that nation's knowledge. If the goal was, as stated later by DoJ, to track guns into Mexico to the purchasing sources in the cartels, then was there not some diplomatic requirement to notify the Mexican government that we were arming their most violent criminal elements? And what was the need for keeping our own BATF agents in Mexico -- the only American agents with Mexican presence to conduct such surveillance and tracking operations on Mexican soil -- equally in the dark?

It doesn't require much in the way of deductive powers to conclude that the fish-wrap smell seeping out of Washington probably had to do with Eric Holder's Department of Justice being used to tightly wrap something rotting from the head down. And what could that be? Early proponents of the theory suggesting that if the DoJ's rationale smelled fishy, then perhaps the true reason for F&F was to create justification for more gun control legislation here in this country were looked at as crackpot conspiracists. Even now, most of those Republican members of Congress pursuing this scandal refuse to cite the true purpose of F&F, still referring to it as a bungled federal program. There are exceptions: Florida congressman John Mica speaking on one of the Sunday talk shows this weekend, made clear his opinion that F&F was a sinister and cynical attempt by the Obama administration to undermine the 2nd Amendment. I watched him say it, but Google has no link. Imagine that.

For those who haven't really followed the Fast and Furious scandal, here's a five-step summary of how the operation was supposed to work:
1.Allow guns to flow freely to criminal elements in Mexico, where they are naturally used in the extremely violent and deadly criminal activities of the drug cartels.
2.When sufficient guns of American origin have been used in such criminal activities, enlist the willing services of the liberal media to announce the discovery thereof to the world.
3.Enlist multiple prominent Democrats to untruthfully proclaim that 90% of the guns used in Mexican crimes originate in the U.S.
4.Use steps one through three to substantiate the liberal fallacy that private gun ownership leads to increased gun violence by gun owners.
5.With the compliance of a thoroughly duped American public, enact increasingly restrictive gun ownership policies through federal agencies, bypassing Congress and the Supreme Court
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When looked at this way, doesn't Obama's statement to a group of gun control advocates in March 2011 that he was taking steps to further gun control restrictions, but "under the radar," now seem less cryptic than it did at the time? For those who still don't believe Fast & Furious was an end-run on the 2nd Amendment by a liberal, gun-averse administration, here are five questions to consider:
1.Could the possibility that this plan was concocted at the very top of the administration, putting it on par with Watergate, explain Eric Holder's entrenched refusal to release the tens of thousands of documents being sought by congressional investigators?
2.Is the liberal media's refusal to investigate this scandal due to the fact that they suspect that the acts of this administration may rise to criminal and impeachable offenses?
3.Has the reluctance of the Republican leadership to more aggressively support the House investigation been attributable to the same possibility -- that full exposure could lead straight to the Oval Office and the politically unsavory possibility of impeachment of the nation's first black president?
4.Does anyone really think an ambitious politician like Holder would risk career-ending contempt of Congress charges to protect some incredibly stupid subordinates who supposedly, all by themselves, planned and implemented such a boondoggle?
5.In an administration known for its quickness in throwing friends and associates under the bus in matters of self-preservation, is it not remarkable that rather than being so dispatched by Holder, many of the key players in F&F have been promoted despite denials by their bureau?

If all this sounds like a bit too much to swallow, consider the political origins of the key players in the current administration. All are products of the Chicago political machine, a thoroughly Democrat movement particularly hostile to the concept of citizen gun ownership as demonstrated by the some of the nation's most restrictive gun ownership laws being in place there. And to prove the folly of those laws and the liberal fallacy that disarming the citizenry reduces crime, here's a quite recent headline from that bastion of conservative thought and opinion, Huffington Post: "Chicago Homicide Rate Worse Than Kabul, Up To 200 Police Assigned To High-Profile Wedding (Video)."

We are quick to blame the policies and activities of the Mexican drug cartels for their nation's murder rate being among the highest in the world. Is it not then fair to apply the same blame to those who control a city with some of the most restrictive gun ownership laws in America, which are yielding gun-death fatality stats almost double the total casualty rate for American troops in the Afghan war zone? It is the total and vise-like hold the Democrat machine has on Chicago that has made this city the riskiest place in America for law-abiding citizens, turning them into helpless, unarmed sheep at the mercy of roving, well-armed, predatory wolves.

Doesn't Chicago sound a lot like Mexico to you?

Never lose sight of the real reason why liberals want to confiscate your guns. Liberals assert that government is the protector of all our freedoms, and therefore we need not be concerned with protecting ourselves and our loved ones. The folly of that assertion can be refuted with one word: Chicago. But the true reason for wanting an unarmed public is because such a citizenry is powerless in the face of armed government and therefore compliant. Liberals and Democrats know full well that the key to unrestrained governing is to first disarm the citizenry.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/fast_and_furious_falling_apart.html#ixzz1yU5Gyinu
 

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Thanks for the info.What is the answer to this problem?What can we as citizens do to end this constant attack on our rights once and for all?Can we trust Mitt Romney not too do the same kind of things?If you have the answers I will listen.
 

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smalltime said:
Thanks for the info.What is the answer to this problem?What can we as citizens do to end this constant attack on our rights once and for all?Can we trust Mitt Romney not too do the same kind of things?If you have the answers I will listen.

We know this, we can not trust obama. Further more he won't even listen to the citizens of the US.
With all the other candidates at least we have a chance. I will not vote for a proven failure.
 

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smalltime said:
Thanks for the info.What is the answer to this problem?What can we as citizens do to end this constant attack on our rights once and for all?Can we trust Mitt Romney not too do the same kind of things?If you have the answers I will listen.

the simple answer is no.... we shouldn't trust Romney ,... we should plan on him not being a conservative..

most conservatives realize Romney is a rino at best and fairly liberal at worst

we know he shifted right to win the nomination and is now shifting back to center left to appease those special interest groups such as Latinos..

we also know Obama has stayed pretty much left of many Americans.. say 3/4 to 7/8ths left.. and we all know he would have more flexibility after the election to slide further left... to say.. full/far left to well over the left edge... governing from Indonesia or someplace way out there...

it is also well know that Ron Paul or a few of the others running would have been to the right of Romney.. but none of them captured enough to topple Romney in the primaries..

so our only hope is that a well organized Tea Party nominates and elects more conservatives to force Romney or Obama to the right after the election..

a real check and balance as we now have against Obama ...
 

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The thingt is that if obama is beaten then the populace must then stay vigilant and force the Prez to stay on the Conservative path or we will have another lib in four years. We must be constantly on the Prez or the libs will say "see conservatism didn't work" If we have a true conservatism it will work. So win or lose we must be in constant contact with our legislators and Prez.
 

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The one thing that scares the Holly crap out of a liberal ain't a ballot box, they can stuff them, lose them, buy them, sell them. A pi**Ed off citizen who has been screw over, lied to, ignored, talked down to, that has access to a gun that is loaded, and has figured out that the time has come for a reckoning is really tough to evade with out some serious revival of what's what.

Why do you think msnbc prattles on as much.
 

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Larrry said:
The thingt is that if obama is beaten then the populace must then stay vigilant and force the Prez to stay on the Conservative path or we will have another lib in four years. We must be constantly on the Prez or the libs will say "see conservatism didn't work" If we have a true conservatism it will work. So win or lose we must be in constant contact with our legislators and Prez.


Bush was too liberal, or Neocon. Elect a Conservative House and Senate, and Romney will do as they say.
 

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If O gets beat, the libs will sue every election board they can find,the stink of Florida in 04 will be a drop in the bucket, you will hear racism, there will be riots from some, Carter will decry the results to the u n, and "I hope he fails" will be the slogan of many,,
Headed by the msnbc crew.
Then the fun will start---the lame duck session will be about as ugly as Nancy Pelosi without her makeup, you might see something as asinine as no foodstamp guidelines, there are already thoughts that O can raise the debt ceiling on his own.
The idea of screwing things up as much as possible to undermine the next administration is gonna be the goal.
Vote us out and we'll show you just how bad things can get.
. :p :p
 

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cowman52 said:
If O gets beat, the libs will sue every election board they can find,the stink of Florida in 04 will be a drop in the bucket, you will hear racism, there will be riots from some, Carter will decry the results to the u n, and "I hope he fails" will be the slogan of many,,
Headed by the msnbc crew.
Then the fun will start---the lame duck session will be about as ugly as Nancy Pelosi without her makeup, you might see something as asinine as no foodstamp guidelines, there are already thoughts that O can raise the debt ceiling on his own.
The idea of screwing things up as much as possible to undermine the next administration is gonna be the goal.
Vote us out and we'll show you just how bad things can get.
. :p :p



Democracy, Wisc. style:

Tell me what democracy looks like! THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!


:lol:
 

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I grew up in Texas when a republican was someone from the 1700's, and when LBJ won a senate seat by a ballot box being found in Duvall county. The only reason you lost an election was either not enough votes, or you didn't buy enough votes.
Now you aren't smart enough to vote on your own,and if you do you are just a stupid, dumb mass racist redneck, and (we) are here to guide you on your way through the finer points of governing yourself.
AND if you don't like it we will show you the evils of your ways---we know the path and you will follow.

Wonder how we survived since 1776??? :???: :???:
 

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I like what you said cowmanexcept for yhat crack about Nancy.The sight of her with makeup is bad enough.Yor image just ruint my day!
 

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