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RobertMac

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MRJ, I have been here almost from the start and have bent over backwards not to call him names in response(not always successful). Scott shields his action by saying he has no tolerance for liars, but that's no excuse to be rude. But he is what he is....
 

mrj

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RobertMac said:
MRJ, I have been here almost from the start and have bent over backwards not to call him names in response(not always successful). Scott shields his action by saying he has no tolerance for liars, but that's no excuse to be rude. But he is what he is....

It's great that you try, at least. Again, not saying I approve, only that I do understand the excess goading, not just on this site, which, along with his hatred for lies, drives him.

Disagreement in principle or of what constitutes the fact of a matter, or a nit picking 'white lie' is one thing; serious, intentional lies stated for some kind of gain, is entirely somethintg else, IMO.

Rudeness is in the eye of the beholder/ear of those hearing it. Much of what one person might consider rude is simply considered the way things are today and no big deal by others, unfortunately.

MRJ
 

fedup2

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Poor SH!
I haven’t felt this bad since Old Yeller died! :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:

If he hates lies so much, why doesn’t he put his keyboard away? That would cut them down about 75%! Oh! Wait! He’s just taken out of context. We just didn’t understand him! :roll: :roll: :roll:

We all have a right to be stupid. SH just abuses that privilege!
:nod:
 

Ben Roberts

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Ladies and Gentlemen, I learned along time ago, there are as many ways of living life on this earth,as there are people on this earth living life. I know Scott, the morning that I spent with him was very interesting and I will spend more time with him in the future. Do we agree on everything,NO! but i've met very few people, with the passion he has for the cattle industry. Scott has alot of energy, the kind of energy cattle producers need on their side.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts
 

Sandhusker

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MRJ, "It's great that you try, at least. Again, not saying I approve, only that I do understand the excess goading, not just on this site, which, along with his hatred for lies, drives him. "

If he hates lies so bad, why does he do it? Maybe he just has a poor memory? I don't buy that hatred for lies one bit. He's simply out of control.

The guy has issues, serious issues. He needs professional help. I don't say this to poke fun or degrade him (this time), I say it because it is true. It's nothing to be ashamed of, lots of people need help of this manner. If you're his friend, MRJ, you wouldn't make excuses for his antics that just encourages more of the same, you would steer him in the right direction to get the help he needs. A grown adult man doesn't act like he does.

Look at the conversatin we're having here. That doesn't tell you something is wrong with the guy?
 

mrj

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Sandhusker said:
MRJ, "It's great that you try, at least. Again, not saying I approve, only that I do understand the excess goading, not just on this site, which, along with his hatred for lies, drives him. "

If he hates lies so bad, why does he do it? Maybe he just has a poor memory? I don't buy that hatred for lies one bit. He's simply out of control.

The guy has issues, serious issues. He needs professional help. I don't say this to poke fun or degrade him (this time), I say it because it is true. It's nothing to be ashamed of, lots of people need help of this manner. If you're his friend, MRJ, you wouldn't make excuses for his antics that just encourages more of the same, you would steer him in the right direction to get the help he needs. A grown adult man doesn't act like he does.

Sandhusker, I've got to turn your words right back at you: a grown man doesn't talk like you have on this site either. Unless he is attempting to goad someone into saying things they otherwise might not say.

Further, I'm not "making excuses" for anyone! I'm simply not surprised when the venom spit at a person is returned in spades!

Inferring mental illness in someone else in public is a cheap shot, at best.

MRJ

I've never seen any evidence of any mental or emotional problems and you are not a great one to be

Look at the conversatin we're having here. That doesn't tell you something is wrong with the guy?
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
I didn't infer mental illness as a cheap shot. I inferred it based on evidence and as a possible explanation. Look at the conversation here; it's like we're a bunch of teachers describing a troubled kid. Doesn't that tell you something? I think he does need help. I'm not trying to be funny, I'm serious. I even include the guy in my prayers sometimes - and I'm not lying. Looks like I need to do it mroe. He's got inferiority issues. You're just as deep in denial as he is.
 
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Anonymous

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Ben Roberts said:
Ladies and Gentlemen, I learned along time ago, there are as many ways of living life on this earth,as there are people on this earth living life. I know Scott, the morning that I spent with him was very interesting and I will spend more time with him in the future. Do we agree on everything,NO! but i've met very few people, with the passion he has for the cattle industry. Scott has alot of energy, the kind of energy cattle producers need on their side.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

Ben- You are right, he has done one good thing for the cattle industry-- his rants and ravings have convinced several readers to become R-CALF members and help to make it the fastest growing cattlemans group in the country....
 

Soapweed

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I probably should stay out of this, but guess I won't. :wink: Heck, I'm even on SH's side. I've learned a lot from him back when he was in stable condition, and I changed my mind from being an R-CALF member to going back to the side of the NCBA. Scott is a friend in real life, but he is "a idiot" on this forum. He is rude, repetative and repulsive when he gets a keyboard in his hand. Sandhusker probably hit the nail on the head when he said SH needs help. I would agree.

Scott is a very intelligent person. He knows what is right and truthful, but expresses himself so terribly that he has alienated just about all of his online friends. His behavior is obsessive compulsive. By being so berserk, he has made many fence-riders go to the side of R-CALF, just to be different than him. It is impossible to discuss issues rationally with the man. He always makes his digs and cheap shots, which only ruins the dialogue.

It is never too late for him to come to grips with his problem and change his ways. By this, I don't mean change his standards and ideals of the Beef Industry, but to change his behavior so as to be a positive influence instead of a negative one.
 
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Anonymous

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This is exactly the type of thread that Sandcheska, OT, F'ed Up, ocm, and Mike just love to flock to. The little support group of blaming sharks join hands or fins when they think they have blood in the water and here comes Soapweed with referee shirt and whistle thinking that his opinion of me matters. YEE HAW!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Somebody wake me when these clowns want to debate the issues.

Anything to divert the issues and talk about the MANNER IN WHICH I POST as opposed to having to back their factually void positions with supporting facts.

Those who can't debate, discredit! It's never been any different and it never will be.

Soapweed, I will continue to respond to lies and liars as I always have. How many times do I have to tell you that I don't care what you think of me or what you think of the manner in which I post? Nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to read my posts. Sounds to me like you got enough problems of your own you should be tending to rather than judging me from your high horse.

UNDERSTAND THIS, I don't give a darn what you think of the manner in which I post. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? What is it about you that you think you need to play referee or join the sharks when they imagine there is blood in the water?

As long as the liars like Sandcheska and Conman continue to lie in this industry, I will continue to correct those lies and show my disgust. If you don't like it, TOO DARN BAD!

Your a hypocrite too! You judge me but you don't say a thing when the blamers are lying through their teeth or calling me names. I guess it must keep you in the "good ol' boys club" with Sandcheska huh???

How many times have you ever seen F'ed up take a statement of mine and bring the facts that prove me wrong? All he has can do is take statements out of context and join the sharks when he thinks there is blood in the water. He can't dismiss me because I introduce him to his factually void little world. That's why he dislikes me. He's obsessed!

How many times have you seen Sandcheska back his position with supporting facts? It doesn't happen. He can't even win a bet without me having to prove myself wrong. Talk about helpless. It's no mystery why he relishes in threads like this.

These blamers dislike me because I introduce them to their factually void worlds and their unsupportable positions so their only recourse is to discuss the manner in which I post and gather their little support groups of which you gladly participate. Gotta be part of the mob.

The more these guys lie, the more I will call them just what they are. GET USED TO IT OR GET OVER IT SOAPWEED!

Your criticism is meaningless to me!

These guys can't refute me in debate without taking statements out of context so their only recourse is to discuss the manner in which I post which is the same manner in which they post.


Soapweed: "Scott is a friend in real life, but he is "a idiot" on this forum. He is rude, repetative and repulsive when he gets a keyboard in his hand. Sandhusker probably hit the nail on the head when he said SH needs help. I would agree."

GEE, LET'S ALL TAKE A LESSON IN POSTING ETIQUETTE LIKE THIS STATEMENT FROM OUR EXCELLENT EXAMPLE, "SOAPWEED"!

WHY CAN'T WE ALL BE LIKE SOAPWEED AND POST LIKE THIS?????



Here's a perfect example of how Sandcheska and F'ed up take statements out of context:

SH: "I didn't say that nobody can refute anything Dittmer said"

So here's the quote that Little Sandcheska brings to "supposedly" refute this....

SH: "Still nobody can refute anything that Dittmer has stated"

"STILL" NOBODY CAN REFUTE ANYTHING THAT DITTMER HAS STATED.

WHAT DOES STILL MEAN?????

"STILL" MEANS NOBODY HAS REFUTED DITTMER YET NOT THAT NOBODY EVER COULD OR WILL!!

Little Sandcheska thinks he's so cute when he tries to pull one off like this and his mindless lemming support group that can't think for themselves joins in for the feeding frenzy. These blamers can't refute me without taking a statement out of context and I just proved it again just like I did with F'ed up.

This is the type of crap that I put up with with these lying, deceptive buttholes on a daily basis and I will continue to show my disgust for their pathetic antics. COUNT ON IT SOAPWEED!

For every person who CLAIMS that they have joined R-CULT because of me, which is another deceptive ploy from the blamers trying to silence their critics for exposing the truth about R-CULT, there is a person who has seen R-CULT for the blaming, deceptive organization that they are.


NEXT!


~SH~
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
STILL made all the difference, SH. :roll:

Every time I start feeling sorry for the guy and feel a little guilty, he changes all that with a single post. Those who can not debate, STILL act like a junior high punk, Scotty.

You STILL on his side, Soap? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Soapweed

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~SH~ said:
Soapweed, I will continue to respond to lies and liars as I always have. How many times do I have to tell you that I don't care what you think of me or what you think of the manner in which I post?

UNDERSTAND THIS, I don't give a darn what you think of the manner in which I post. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? What is it about you that you think you need to play referee or join the sharks when they imagine there is blood in the water?


The more these guys lie, the more I will call them just what they are. GET USED TO IT OR GET OVER IT SOAPWEED!

Your criticism is meaningless to me!

This is the type of crap that I put up with with these lying, deceptive buttholes on a daily basis and I will continue to show my disgust for their pathetic antics. COUNT ON IT SOAPWEED!


~SH~

There are only two reasons I give a darn. One is, you used to be my friend and mentor. I hate to see you degenerate into what you have become.

Number two, you are not at all helping the cause that both you and I believe in. You are a joke.

End of rant.

NEXT :!:
 

fedup2

Well-known member
SH!tHead writes: [These blamers can't refute me without taking a statement out of context and I just proved it again just like I did with F'ed up. ]

You proved WHAT????? :roll: :roll: :roll:
You told more lies to cover up the lies that you already told! You dug yourself in so deep you had no way out! Out of context my @ss! Your ego & your mouth are a hell of a lot bigger than your IQ.

People don't like you because they can't refute you??????
:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

It would be impossibe to prove to you that the world is round. That doesn't mean you are right! :roll: :roll: :roll:

The ability of your mind to resist the intrusion of knowledge is infinite!
Get some help SH! You darn sure need it!
 
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Anonymous

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Soapweed: "There are only two reasons I give a darn. One is, you used to be my friend and mentor. I hate to see you degenerate into what you have become.

Number two, you are not at all helping the cause that both you and I believe in. You are a joke."

Feel better now?

When can we expect your next lecture on posting etiquette?

Rod just used the abreviations WTF? Did you jump on him you hypocrite?

Did you jump on Sancheska when he told a pack of lies about me in the "allow me to introduce you to Little Sandcheska" thread?

No Soapweed, your hypocrisy is the joke! With friends like you, who needs enemies?


Fed up: "You told more lies to cover up the lies that you already told! You dug yourself in so deep you had no way out! Out of context my @ss!"

Keep telling yourself that over and over until you have yourself convinced because talk couldn't be any cheaper.

"GONNA SCRAPE HIM OUT OF THE GUTTER BY GAWD".....said the Neanderthal as he crushed another beer can against his empty head.



~SH~
 
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Anonymous

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Getting back to the original topic, have you proven Dittmer wrong on any statement he has made by bringing the facts to the table to prove him wrong?


~SH~
 

Sandhusker

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~SH~ said:
Getting back to the original topic, have you proven Dittmer wrong on any statement he has made by bringing the facts to the table to prove him wrong?


~SH~

Since you asked so nicely; For starters, Consumers Union is not a meat industry adversary.

Rant away.
 
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Anonymous

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Sandcheska: "Since you asked so nicely; For starters, Consumers Union is not a meat industry adversary."

Show me where Dittmer said Consumers Union was a meat industry adversary WITHIN CONTEXT.


~SH~
 

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