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Sandhusker

Well-known member
Brad S said:
Big Muddy,

Agreed. Fools come from both sides of the border. One named Don is disparraging American beef, as you cite, on another thread on this very forum.


Pssst, Sandy is using what we call an analogy. The principle that one country with greater population would naturally have a trade deficite with a country of smaller population is flawed reasoning.

Thanks, Brad. Bill must of went to the same school as SH.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
Agman:
Econ: Packers grade their own cattle every day. Not everything is graded by the USDA and sometimes even that is suspect, regardless of what you think. Packers try to pass select off as choice all the time on the retail level while trying to pay cattlemen select on choice carcasses. If the USDA stamp isn't on there, I wouldn't trust the grade was from the USDA.

Do you think the price reporting trial had anything do with with the grade?

Agman: YOUR QUOTE FROM ABOVE.... "Packers grade their own cattle every day. Not everything is graded by the USDA and sometimes even that is suspect, regardless of what you think. Packers try to pass select off as choice all the time on the retail level while trying to pay cattlemen select on choice carcasses. If the USDA stamp isn't on there, I wouldn't trust the grade was from the USDA.

1. First question.....What group of cattle are not graded by the USDA and what percent of commercial slaughter might that be? Answer please, no diversion or time wasting and meaningless dissertation that you engage in.

2. Second question....Through which retail establishments do packers try to pass off select beef as choice-name them. I am anxious to see how you try and weasel out of another of your blatant lies.


YOUR STATEMENT...Do you think the price reporting trial had anything do with with the grade?

3. Yes, the trial had to do with the grade that was misappropriated by the firm assigned by the USDA to handle and process and report the data. What evidence of any charges do you have that packers incorrectly entered data? What part of the trail was that?

Everytime you make a comment you show your total ignorance of subject matter for all readers to see. What a total fraud you are.[/quote]

Econ:
1. Do you deny this happens? The group and the percentage are questions SH wanted to know. Maybe you and he can invest in a little research.

2. Walmart for one.

3. The whole case was about the misappropriated grade and how it affected the price reported. The packer led USDA did this. Do you need any more information on this? Maybe you could put a little investment from question 1. on it.

Agman: Everytime you make a comment you show your total ignorance of subject matter for all readers to see. What a total fraud you are

Econ: Your tell is showing again.
 
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Anonymous

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Conman,

You claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA. You claimed "select" beef is being passed off as "choice".

1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????

Look out boys and girls, here comes the circus chicken diversion dance again.



~SH~
 

Beefman

Well-known member
Econ101 said:
Agman:
Econ: Packers grade their own cattle every day. Not everything is graded by the USDA and sometimes even that is suspect, regardless of what you think. Packers try to pass select off as choice all the time on the retail level while trying to pay cattlemen select on choice carcasses. If the USDA stamp isn't on there, I wouldn't trust the grade was from the USDA.

Do you think the price reporting trial had anything do with with the grade?

Agman: YOUR QUOTE FROM ABOVE.... "Packers grade their own cattle every day. Not everything is graded by the USDA and sometimes even that is suspect, regardless of what you think. Packers try to pass select off as choice all the time on the retail level while trying to pay cattlemen select on choice carcasses. If the USDA stamp isn't on there, I wouldn't trust the grade was from the USDA.

1. First question.....What group of cattle are not graded by the USDA and what percent of commercial slaughter might that be? Answer please, no diversion or time wasting and meaningless dissertation that you engage in.

2. Second question....Through which retail establishments do packers try to pass off select beef as choice-name them. I am anxious to see how you try and weasel out of another of your blatant lies.


YOUR STATEMENT...Do you think the price reporting trial had anything do with with the grade?

3. Yes, the trial had to do with the grade that was misappropriated by the firm assigned by the USDA to handle and process and report the data. What evidence of any charges do you have that packers incorrectly entered data? What part of the trail was that?

Everytime you make a comment you show your total ignorance of subject matter for all readers to see. What a total fraud you are.

Econ:
1. Do you deny this happens? The group and the percentage are questions SH wanted to know. Maybe you and he can invest in a little research.

2. Walmart for one.

3. The whole case was about the misappropriated grade and how it affected the price reported. The packer led USDA did this. Do you need any more information on this? Maybe you could put a little investment from question 1. on it.

Agman: Everytime you make a comment you show your total ignorance of subject matter for all readers to see. What a total fraud you are

Econ: Your tell is showing again.

Come on Econ, I was really looking forward to your answer on this. Surely you’ve not used up all your bullets yet. Show us what you got.

Agman asked you........"What group of cattle are not graded by the USDA and what percent of commercial slaughter might that be?".......and your response is "do you deny this happens?" Come on Econ, have you lost your touch? Surely you can do can do better than this. Tell us what you know.

Agman also asks......"Through which retail establishments do packers try to pass off select beef as choice-name them.".........and you state Walmart for one. Can you expand on this? I thought Walmart was getting most of their case ready already labeled. All Walmart has to do is open boxes and load the shelf. What are you suggesting Walmart is doing?

Further, how do you know packers are “trying to pass select off as choice, while trying to pay cattlemen select on choice carcasses”.
 

Bill

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Brad S said:
Big Muddy,

Agreed. Fools come from both sides of the border. One named Don is disparraging American beef, as you cite, on another thread on this very forum.


Pssst, Sandy is using what we call an analogy. The principle that one country with greater population would naturally have a trade deficite with a country of smaller population is flawed reasoning.

Thanks, Brad. Bill must of went to the same school as SH.
As has been mentioned numerous times on this site, Canadian per capita expenditures on US goods is far greater than what Americans spend per capita on Canadian goods. I am sure a banker with all the extra time you seem to have on your hands would be able to figure that out for us. Why don't you get the trade figures Sandhusker and divide by the population of each country and report back to us. Here's a chance to show us how our reasoning is flawed.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Bill said:
Sandhusker said:
Brad S said:
Big Muddy,

Agreed. Fools come from both sides of the border. One named Don is disparraging American beef, as you cite, on another thread on this very forum.


Pssst, Sandy is using what we call an analogy. The principle that one country with greater population would naturally have a trade deficite with a country of smaller population is flawed reasoning.

Thanks, Brad. Bill must of went to the same school as SH.
As has been mentioned numerous times on this site, Canadian per capita expenditures on US goods is far greater than what Americans spend per capita on Canadian goods. I am sure a banker with all the extra time you seem to have on your hands would be able to figure that out for us. Why don't you get the trade figures Sandhusker and divide by the population of each country and report back to us. Here's a chance to show us how our reasoning is flawed.

Bill, we have a trade deficit with both Canada and China. We have more people than Canada and less than China. Those facts make your following statement tying population to trade pretty foolish; "Looks like you need to be reminded of the 10 times difference in population between Canada and the US. Any suggestions how 30 million Canadians can purchase and consume the same amount as 300 million Americans?"

Now if you'll excuse me, I have another hog to wrestle.
 

don

Well-known member
sandhusker the fact is americans consume more than they produce and finance it by conducting business in other parts of the world and bringing home the profits. there is a trade deficit yes but you also have to look at the capital inflows from other parts of the world.
 

Bill

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Bill said:
Sandhusker said:
Thanks, Brad. Bill must of went to the same school as SH.
As has been mentioned numerous times on this site, Canadian per capita expenditures on US goods is far greater than what Americans spend per capita on Canadian goods. I am sure a banker with all the extra time you seem to have on your hands would be able to figure that out for us. Why don't you get the trade figures Sandhusker and divide by the population of each country and report back to us. Here's a chance to show us how our reasoning is flawed.

Bill, we have a trade deficit with both Canada and China. We have more people than Canada and less than China. Those facts make your following statement tying population to trade pretty foolish; "Looks like you need to be reminded of the 10 times difference in population between Canada and the US. Any suggestions how 30 million Canadians can purchase and consume the same amount as 300 million Americans?"

Now if you'll excuse me, I have another hog to wrestle.

Here let me help you out Sandhusker. (Based on US population of 298,544,521 and Canadian poulation of 32,000,000)

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c1220.html

Per capita purchases by Americans of Canadian goods $964.25

Per capita purchases by Canadians of American goods $6523.12


I think Canadians are doing their darndest to prop up the American economy. Trade imbalance? :lol: :roll:
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Conman,

You claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA. You claimed "select" beef is being passed off as "choice".

1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????

Look out boys and girls, here comes the circus chicken diversion dance again.



~SH~

Value Of Boxed Beef Off $1.94 To $134.99
The national comprehensive boxed beef cutout report on all fed steers and heifers sold last week lost $1.94 to $134.99, the sixth consecutive weekly decline and the lowest value since September. Prime grade moved up $2.90 on the strength of a reduced supply and was $35.31 higher than Choice. Ungraded at 44.8 percent of the supply was the largest percentage in 13 months.

Please don't ask me for industry specific facts anymore. It shows you don't have the capacity to look up the numbers yourself. Beefman, you, Agman and SH, should have no problem looking up any of these numbers and Agman probably has a report he could look at every day on these type of issues.

When you call me a liar on statements I make and then ask for specific numbers, it shows you either don't have the intelligence to look up numbers for yourself or you just don't know anything about the industry at all. Since I know this is not true, it seems to be an attempt to discredit me on a statement I made by asking for specifics.

IF YOU 3 PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THIS TYPE OF SPECIFIC INFORMATION AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, PLEASE DON'T CALL OTHERS A "LIAR" ON IT. IT SHOWS HOW DESPERATE YOU ARE TO DISCREDIT YOUR CRITICS WITH NO REAL REAL FACTS.

Since the source of the brief is AMS and the info does not fit on this format, you can find it here:

http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/LM_XB462.txt

Again, Beefman, Agman, and SH, you should know this stuff and not question things you should know. It shows your arrogant ignorance.

Perhaps you would all like to share your delusional definition for "liar". Perhaps it is something like this: liar--anyone who disagrees with us.
 

RoperAB

Well-known member
Brad S said:
Invaded, like the Saudies in "73,' oh nevermind. the thing the Saudies know that you don't seem to know is the US has one of the 3 largest oil deposits in the world, but the oil is difficult to access at low prices. The Saudies know oil is sufficiently expensive to pay for its replacement. I'd think a wise Canadian would be thrilled to sell oil at $70 rather than talking about "slowing sales" to try to injure the US.

LOL We make about one dollar off a $70 barrel of oil we sell to you. Actualy we make about a dollar a barrel regardless if oil sells for $40 or $70 a barrel. Its Not Canada thats getting rich, Its not Alberta. Its the American oil companies.
Then your dumping all your damn PCBs up here in Swan Hills! We cant eat the wildlife for something like 200 miles around the place.
Really I wish to God that you would use your own oil. Its no fun living with these oil outfits.
 

RoperAB

Well-known member
Brad S said:
Big Muddy,

Agreed. Fools come from both sides of the border. One named Don is disparraging American beef, as you cite, on another thread on this very forum.


Pssst, Sandy is using what we call an analogy. The principle that one country with greater population would naturally have a trade deficite with a country of smaller population is flawed reasoning.

Which thread?
 

RoperAB

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
BMR, "Guess R-CALF wouldn't mind if we slowed up on shipping oil and lowered the price for Canadian consumers. Might raise the price in the US but OH well we don't care."

Do what you have to do. Canada shouldn't have to answer to anybody on what they do with their oil.

You act like you have us over a barrel. Need I inform you that you are running a huge trade surplus with us? We're already buying more from you than you're buying from us.

You act like you want the government to come in and regulate you like the dairy industry in Quebec. You know give Sandhusker so much quota, make it illegal for Econs kids to raise cattle. Have the government regulate the price of cattle,etc. And the hell with the rest of America.
You also act like we are some third world nation that does not contribute anything and you make it sound like your doing us a favour by tradeing with us.
BTW The trade surplus is from you guys consuming all our energy.
 

RoperAB

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
At 10 times the population and smaller land mass, that is little wonder.
If we slowed the oil supply south I think we would be invaded .

You know this is the reason the rest of the world did not go to Iraq with you. In the back of everybodys mind was are we going to be next?
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Conman: "Value Of Boxed Beef Off $1.94 To $134.99
The national comprehensive boxed beef cutout report on all fed steers and heifers sold last week lost $1.94 to $134.99, the sixth consecutive weekly decline and the lowest value since September. Prime grade moved up $2.90 on the strength of a reduced supply and was $35.31 higher than Choice. Ungraded at 44.8 percent of the supply was the largest percentage in 13 months."

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHA!

That is supposed to be your proof that packers grade their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA???

That is supposed to be your proof that Walmart is selling "select" beef at "choice" prices?

AND YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU DON'T LIE??????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


What a moron!


Conman, ONCE AGAIN..........


1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????


ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!

You either have the proof or you lied again.


~SH~
 

Beefman

Well-known member
Econ101 said:
~SH~ said:
Conman,

You claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA. You claimed "select" beef is being passed off as "choice".

1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????

Look out boys and girls, here comes the circus chicken diversion dance again.



~SH~

Value Of Boxed Beef Off $1.94 To $134.99
The national comprehensive boxed beef cutout report on all fed steers and heifers sold last week lost $1.94 to $134.99, the sixth consecutive weekly decline and the lowest value since September. Prime grade moved up $2.90 on the strength of a reduced supply and was $35.31 higher than Choice. Ungraded at 44.8 percent of the supply was the largest percentage in 13 months.

Please don't ask me for industry specific facts anymore. It shows you don't have the capacity to look up the numbers yourself. Beefman, you, Agman and SH, should have no problem looking up any of these numbers and Agman probably has a report he could look at every day on these type of issues.

When you call me a liar on statements I make and then ask for specific numbers, it shows you either don't have the intelligence to look up numbers for yourself or you just don't know anything about the industry at all. Since I know this is not true, it seems to be an attempt to discredit me on a statement I made by asking for specifics.

IF YOU 3 PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THIS TYPE OF SPECIFIC INFORMATION AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, PLEASE DON'T CALL OTHERS A "LIAR" ON IT. IT SHOWS HOW DESPERATE YOU ARE TO DISCREDIT YOUR CRITICS WITH NO REAL REAL FACTS.

Since the source of the brief is AMS and the info does not fit on this format, you can find it here:

http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/LM_XB462.txt

Again, Beefman, Agman, and SH, you should know this stuff and not question things you should know. It shows your arrogant ignorance.

Perhaps you would all like to share your delusional definition for "liar". Perhaps it is something like this: liar--anyone who disagrees with us.

Would someone be so kind as to advise the emporer to please go back inside, and put his clothes on.

Thank you for posting the link. "Ungraded" is an industry term for product that grades BELOW Select. Those that recieve carcass data reports back on their finished cattle understand this. Various reports might also refer to this as "No Roll" product. This is USDA inspected product, yet it graded below Select. Case in point.......

The attached link details Choice / Select box movements during the same time frame. http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/LM_XB462.txt. You'll notice composite Ch prices at 141.10, Select at 128.93, thus a daily C/S spread of 12.17. All on a per cwt basis. Take the most expensive product, boxed tenderloins, sold for a weighted ave price of 851.80. Same product for Select sold for 717.82. "Ungraded" product, from Econ's link sold for 696.48. The next time you go to your local grocery store, and you see "heiferette" tenderloins on sale, the product will have "USDA inspected" on it, yet with no grade stamp, as it graded below Select. Thus, the discounted price. If it's Choice or Select product, it'll say so.

Next time, look before you leak.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Hahahahaha!

Damn that was funny!

I supposed "NO ROLL" means that USDA is not rolling the beef around correctly???? LOL!

HAHAHAHAHA!


Give the poor guy time to sober up!

I'll be laughing about that the rest of the day. "UNGRADED"????

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!


~SH~
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Conman: "Value Of Boxed Beef Off $1.94 To $134.99
The national comprehensive boxed beef cutout report on all fed steers and heifers sold last week lost $1.94 to $134.99, the sixth consecutive weekly decline and the lowest value since September. Prime grade moved up $2.90 on the strength of a reduced supply and was $35.31 higher than Choice. Ungraded at 44.8 percent of the supply was the largest percentage in 13 months."

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHA!

That is supposed to be your proof that packers grade their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA???

That is supposed to be your proof that Walmart is selling "select" beef at "choice" prices?

AND YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU DON'T LIE??????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


What a moron!


Conman, ONCE AGAIN..........


1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????


ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!

You either have the proof or you lied again.


~SH~

Before I do the research for you and prove that you are a total fool or a deciever,

1. Are you saying that packers have all of the cattle they buy graded by the USDA? (I said they don't)

2. Are you saying that all beef on the retail shelf is graded clearly for the customer to see so there can be no question as to its USDA grade? (I clearly claim it is not)

These were the two allegations I made that you are trying to dispute. If you can not answer these two questions, you have no cause to call ANYONE but yourself a deciever and a "liar". As I said before, maybe you should get your facts straight before calling someone on theirs.

You continue to show your ignorance of this industry. It is amazing that the occasional information you bring to this forum is used by you to make yourself out to be someone who knows a lot about the industry while others know nothing. You are only using your specific industry information to make it look like you know a lot so people will follow your brainless reasoning.

I am waiting.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Quit spinning your statements Conman!

You claimed Packers graded their own cattle and you claimed Walmart is passing "Select" beef off as "Choice"

NOW ANSWER THE ^@#%^*@# QUESTIONS TO BACK YOUR ALLEGATIONS!


1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????



If you have yet to do the research, why did you already make a feeble attempt to answer the questions??

Better still, if you have yet to do the research, WHY DID YOU MAKE THE CLAIM????

Do you think anyone can believe anything you say???

Why don't you save face and just admit you lied again. You can't prove packers grade their own cattle and you can't prove Walmart is hiding "select" beef behind a "choice" grade. Your a complete phony!


~SH~
 

Econ101

Well-known member
Beefman said:
Econ101 said:
~SH~ said:
Conman,

You claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA. You claimed "select" beef is being passed off as "choice".

1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????

Look out boys and girls, here comes the circus chicken diversion dance again.



~SH~

Value Of Boxed Beef Off $1.94 To $134.99
The national comprehensive boxed beef cutout report on all fed steers and heifers sold last week lost $1.94 to $134.99, the sixth consecutive weekly decline and the lowest value since September. Prime grade moved up $2.90 on the strength of a reduced supply and was $35.31 higher than Choice. Ungraded at 44.8 percent of the supply was the largest percentage in 13 months.

Please don't ask me for industry specific facts anymore. It shows you don't have the capacity to look up the numbers yourself. Beefman, you, Agman and SH, should have no problem looking up any of these numbers and Agman probably has a report he could look at every day on these type of issues.

When you call me a liar on statements I make and then ask for specific numbers, it shows you either don't have the intelligence to look up numbers for yourself or you just don't know anything about the industry at all. Since I know this is not true, it seems to be an attempt to discredit me on a statement I made by asking for specifics.

IF YOU 3 PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THIS TYPE OF SPECIFIC INFORMATION AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, PLEASE DON'T CALL OTHERS A "LIAR" ON IT. IT SHOWS HOW DESPERATE YOU ARE TO DISCREDIT YOUR CRITICS WITH NO REAL REAL FACTS.

Since the source of the brief is AMS and the info does not fit on this format, you can find it here:

http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/LM_XB462.txt

Again, Beefman, Agman, and SH, you should know this stuff and not question things you should know. It shows your arrogant ignorance.

Perhaps you would all like to share your delusional definition for "liar". Perhaps it is something like this: liar--anyone who disagrees with us.

Would someone be so kind as to advise the emporer to please go back inside, and put his clothes on.

Thank you for posting the link. "Ungraded" is an industry term for product that grades BELOW Select. Those that recieve carcass data reports back on their finished cattle understand this. Various reports might also refer to this as "No Roll" product. This is USDA inspected product, yet it graded below Select. Case in point.......

The attached link details Choice / Select box movements during the same time frame. http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/LM_XB462.txt. You'll notice composite Ch prices at 141.10, Select at 128.93, thus a daily C/S spread of 12.17. All on a per cwt basis. Take the most expensive product, boxed tenderloins, sold for a weighted ave price of 851.80. Same product for Select sold for 717.82. "Ungraded" product, from Econ's link sold for 696.48. The next time you go to your local grocery store, and you see "heiferette" tenderloins on sale, the product will have "USDA inspected" on it, yet with no grade stamp, as it graded below Select. Thus, the discounted price. If it's Choice or Select product, it'll say so.

Next time, look before you leak.

Econ:
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:40 am Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post
Big Muddy rancher wrote:
If I understand this correctly, any meat that's Graded is Graded is done by the USDA and all meat that is inspected would be inspected by USDA. The packers can call the cuts what they want but can't put a Grade to it.


That is pretty much correct, BMR. USDA Select used to not be graded. The packers (or whoever) were able to ask the inspecters not to grade the meat if it did not grade choice. Now most select (the old good) is graded. Currently 95.6 of the feeder steer and heifers are graded but only something like 86% of total slaughter is.

As far as the boxed beef, I already posted numbers on that (44% ungraded on recent report). I think one can easily connect the dots on this one unless you are a believer in opposite day and occasionally delusional.

Beefman, perhaps you would like to explain to me where I was wrong in any of my statements. Your interpretation (which is your responsibility alone) is not my problem.

The fact remains that

1. Not all beef is graded.

2. Not all beef on the retail shelf that is graded is marked. Many times this is under sold under a branded program without the grade.

I would suggest you get new glasses to be able to see the clothes and take off your comic magazine spy glasses.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
DANCE CIRCUS CHICKEN, DANCE!!!!!


You claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA. You claimed "select" beef is being passed off as "choice" by Walmart.

1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????



You can't change what you stated Conman!

Again, you claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA and you claimed Walmart was selling "select" beef as "choice".

Removing grades for branded beef programs has nothing to do with your allegations.


DANCE CIRCUS CHICKEN, DANCE!!!!!!



~SH~
 

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