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Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
DANCE CIRCUS CHICKEN, DANCE!!!!!


You claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA. You claimed "select" beef is being passed off as "choice" by Walmart.

1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????



You can't change what you stated Conman!

Again, you claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA and you claimed Walmart was selling "select" beef as "choice".

Removing grades for branded beef programs has nothing to do with your allegations.


DANCE CIRCUS CHICKEN, DANCE!!!!!!



~SH~

For this you only need to do a little exercise, SH. Go to Walmart, buy a piece of meat without the grade on it, then call the number for Tyson on the back and see if the lady answering the phone tells you the grade.

I did it a long time ago.

It seems you will accept no "proof" and look for a loophole in every one of your ridiculous posts. Here is the law on the subject:

EXHIBIT C

GUIDELINES FOR REVIEWING RETAIL OUTLETS FOR PUB. L. 272 VIOLATIONS

When reviewing retail outlets, USDA employees are expected to do so with proper decorum to encourage an atmosphere of mutual cooperation. Such employees are required to properly identify themselves and be courteous, tactful, and diplomatic in their approach.

I. MATERIAL

In performing Pub. L. 272 reviews, graders have the following material:

1. Government ID.

2. Pub. L. 272 Instruction.

3. Copies of Pub. L. 272 law and explanation of grade terms.

4. Pub. L. 272 report forms.

5. Previous report(s) for follow-up reviews.

II. BACKGROUND INFORMATION

The Meat Grading and Certification Branch uses specific grade terminology, shield marks, etc., in identifying meat and meat products for official USDA quality and yield grade factors. It is the policy of the Branch to prohibit the unofficial use of grade names, shield marks, etc., on any items/commodities not officially graded/certified by qualified AMS agents. In conducting reviews of retail outlets for compliance with Pub. L. 272, the graders shall keep the following examples in mind.

NOTE: These examples are not all inclusive.

1. NONCOMPLYING REPRESENTATION

1. Representing, verbally or written, red meat as being graded when it has not been graded.

2. Misuse of official USDA shields or facsimiles thereof. (See Exhibit A.)

3. Advertising "USDA" with unofficial grade terminology (e.g., "USDA" Heavy Western Beef).

4. Labeling red meat by-products (oxtails, liver, hearts, etc.) with official USDA grade terminology.

5. Advertising or labeling of ground or diced products with official USDA grade terminology, unless the establishment exclusively sells that specific grade or has a written quality control program in place to ensure correct grade usage.

6. Labeling any graded red meat with a different grade (e.g., graded Prime labeled as Choice).

7. Using improper grade terminology on other species (e.g., Choice pork, Select lamb).

8. Advertising a particular grade and not having that grade available (e.g., restaurant menu states Choice T-Bone steak and Choice is not available).

9. Linking of official USDA grade terminology with private name on ungraded red meat (e.g. Frank's Choice).

10. When advertising one grade exclusively and having additional grades and/or ungraded available, (e.g. "We sell only USDA Choice").

11. Use of "USDA Certified" when the red meat has not been officially certified by an AMS agent.

2. COMPLYING REPRESENTATION

1. Use of official grade terminology in a company name (e.g., Prime Meat Company).

2. Commingling of properly labeled meat packages of different grades in the meat counter.

3. Graded and ungraded meat may be offered together in an establishment with a "Choice" sign behind the meat counter, as long as USDA Choice is available and is identified on the package.

4. Use of shields or symbols not closely resembling official USDA shields or symbols.

5. Use of official USDA grade terminology for red meats on nonmeat products (e.g., Choice oranges, Choice stuffed green peppers).

6. Use of official USDA grade terminology on items such as beef kabobs, when the beef being used is of that grade.

7. Use of the term "Prime Rib" to describe a cut of beef and the term "Chef's Prime" to describe a cut of pork.

8. Use of the term "Select" on USDA, FSIS labels that were approved prior to the grade name change of "Good" to "Select."

3. IN-STORE PROCEDURES

1. Observe if there are any signs, ads, or banners on display designating a specific grade or grades.

2. Make a preliminary scan of the meat counter, noting which meat items are graded, ungraded, or a combination thereof.

1. If all meat items are ungraded in the counter and there are NO graded meat items advertised, it is not necessary to review the cooler. Report that all meat in the counter is ungraded. Introduce yourself to the meat manager, store manager, etc., and explain the purpose of your review, provide a copy of the Pub. L. 272, and inform them that they were in compliance.

2. If any graded meat items are advertised and are not displayed in the counter, or if any graded meat items are identified in the counter, it will be necessary to review the cooler. Introduce yourself to the meat manager, store manager, etc., and explain the purpose of your review, provide a copy of the Pub. L. 272, and ask to review the cooler. Make a note of graded and ungraded meat items in the cooler and compare with what is advertised and/or available in the counter to determine compliance with Pub. L. 272.

3. If no obvious noncompliance is observed, complete "Public Law 272 Review" form (Exhibit D) and forward to the area office.

4. If noncompliance is observed, record all meat items found in the cooler and in the meat counter that are in discrepancy. Explain your findings to the meat manager/store representative and request his/her comments on your findings. Make note of his/her comments. Request and/or obtain additional documentation, e.g., delivery invoices, labels, advertisements, flyers, and information on distributors, etc. Complete "Pubic Law 272 Review" form, obtain a signed "Acknowledgment of Public Law 272 Review" form (Exhibit E), and include any written comments from the store representative. Forward all information and documents to the area office.

NOTE: If store representative refuses to sign the acknowledgment, so indicate on the form.

5. For blatant noncompliance, e.g., when all meat items in the counter are labeled Choice and no Choice graded meat is available, or when the grader was denied access to review the cooler, the grader shall telephone his/her findings to the area office.
 

agman

Well-known member
don said:
sandhusker the fact is americans consume more than they produce and finance it by conducting business in other parts of the world and bringing home the profits. there is a trade deficit yes but you also have to look at the capital inflows from other parts of the world.

Thanks, a great answer and the correct one to all the trade deficit mongers. The U.S has a capital inflow surplus which most individuals are totally unaware of.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
agman said:
don said:
sandhusker the fact is americans consume more than they produce and finance it by conducting business in other parts of the world and bringing home the profits. there is a trade deficit yes but you also have to look at the capital inflows from other parts of the world.

Thanks, a great answer and the correct one to all the trade deficit mongers. The U.S has a capital inflow surplus which most individuals are totally unaware of.

I haven't ignored it, Agman, I have been critical of it. In the case of China, they have sold us goods and with their profits, buy the rights to tax my children while at the same time earning interest on that money.

The yuan has not been allowed to float freely and this has subsidized one way trade by the Chinese govt.. It is a non tariff trade barrier but China has a whole lot more than this as a non tariff trade barrier.
 

agman

Well-known member
don said:
sandhusker the fact is americans consume more than they produce and finance it by conducting business in other parts of the world and bringing home the profits. there is a trade deficit yes but you also have to look at the capital inflows from other parts of the world.

Thanks, a great answer and the correct one to all the trade deficit mongers. The U.S has a capital inflow surplus which most individuals are totally unaware of.
 

agman

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Bill said:
Sandhusker said:
Thanks, Brad. Bill must of went to the same school as SH.
As has been mentioned numerous times on this site, Canadian per capita expenditures on US goods is far greater than what Americans spend per capita on Canadian goods. I am sure a banker with all the extra time you seem to have on your hands would be able to figure that out for us. Why don't you get the trade figures Sandhusker and divide by the population of each country and report back to us. Here's a chance to show us how our reasoning is flawed.

Bill, we have a trade deficit with both Canada and China. We have more people than Canada and less than China. Those facts make your following statement tying population to trade pretty foolish; "Looks like you need to be reminded of the 10 times difference in population between Canada and the US. Any suggestions how 30 million Canadians can purchase and consume the same amount as 300 million Americans?"

Now if you'll excuse me, I have another hog to wrestle.

Your comments regarding trade border on the totally absurd. The pig you are wrestling knows more about trade than you do.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
agman said:
Sandhusker said:
Bill said:
As has been mentioned numerous times on this site, Canadian per capita expenditures on US goods is far greater than what Americans spend per capita on Canadian goods. I am sure a banker with all the extra time you seem to have on your hands would be able to figure that out for us. Why don't you get the trade figures Sandhusker and divide by the population of each country and report back to us. Here's a chance to show us how our reasoning is flawed.

Bill, we have a trade deficit with both Canada and China. We have more people than Canada and less than China. Those facts make your following statement tying population to trade pretty foolish; "Looks like you need to be reminded of the 10 times difference in population between Canada and the US. Any suggestions how 30 million Canadians can purchase and consume the same amount as 300 million Americans?"

Now if you'll excuse me, I have another hog to wrestle.

Your comments regarding trade border on the totally absurd. The pig you are wrestling knows more about trade than you do.

You are one to be talking, Agman. Go answer my post on trade with China.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Agman, "Your comments regarding trade border on the totally absurd. The pig you are wrestling knows more about trade than you do.'

Please point out my inaccuracies.
 

agman

Well-known member
Econ101 said:
~SH~ said:
DANCE CIRCUS CHICKEN, DANCE!!!!!


You claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA. You claimed "select" beef is being passed off as "choice" by Walmart.

1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????



You can't change what you stated Conman!

Again, you claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA and you claimed Walmart was selling "select" beef as "choice".

Removing grades for branded beef programs has nothing to do with your allegations.


DANCE CIRCUS CHICKEN, DANCE!!!!!!



~SH~

For this you only need to do a little exercise, SH. Go to Walmart, buy a piece of meat without the grade on it, then call the number for Tyson on the back and see if the lady answering the phone tells you the grade.

I did it a long time ago.

It seems you will accept no "proof" and look for a loophole in every one of your ridiculous posts. Here is the law on the subject:

EXHIBIT C

GUIDELINES FOR REVIEWING RETAIL OUTLETS FOR PUB. L. 272 VIOLATIONS

When reviewing retail outlets, USDA employees are expected to do so with proper decorum to encourage an atmosphere of mutual cooperation. Such employees are required to properly identify themselves and be courteous, tactful, and diplomatic in their approach.

quote]

Do you really think the lady answering the phone at Tyson knows which quality of beef product goes into Wal-Mart? That is the extent of your research capability which is par for you.

I will tell you what proof I have and that it is Select. I have been in the plants that make the product from select primals and package it for Wal-Mart. There are NO choice lables on that product. Wal-mart's specifications calls for select product. Sam's by the way is choice product.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
agman said:
Econ101 said:
~SH~ said:
DANCE CIRCUS CHICKEN, DANCE!!!!!


You claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA. You claimed "select" beef is being passed off as "choice" by Walmart.

1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????



You can't change what you stated Conman!

Again, you claimed that packers graded their own cattle and not everything is graded by USDA and you claimed Walmart was selling "select" beef as "choice".

Removing grades for branded beef programs has nothing to do with your allegations.


DANCE CIRCUS CHICKEN, DANCE!!!!!!



~SH~

For this you only need to do a little exercise, SH. Go to Walmart, buy a piece of meat without the grade on it, then call the number for Tyson on the back and see if the lady answering the phone tells you the grade.

I did it a long time ago.

It seems you will accept no "proof" and look for a loophole in every one of your ridiculous posts. Here is the law on the subject:

EXHIBIT C

GUIDELINES FOR REVIEWING RETAIL OUTLETS FOR PUB. L. 272 VIOLATIONS

When reviewing retail outlets, USDA employees are expected to do so with proper decorum to encourage an atmosphere of mutual cooperation. Such employees are required to properly identify themselves and be courteous, tactful, and diplomatic in their approach.

quote]

Do you really think the lady answering the phone at Tyson knows which quality of beef product goes into Wal-Mart? That is the extent of your research capability which is par for you.

I will tell you what proof I have and that it is Select. I have been in the plants that make the product from select primals and package it for Wal-Mart. There are NO choice lables on that product. Wal-mart's specifications calls for select product. Sam's by the way is choice product.


Agman, here is the quote from the rule that was broken:

It seems you will accept no "proof" and look for a loophole in every one of your ridiculous posts. Here is the law on the subject:

EXHIBIT C

GUIDELINES FOR REVIEWING RETAIL OUTLETS FOR PUB. L. 272 VIOLATIONS

When reviewing retail outlets, USDA employees are expected to do so with proper decorum to encourage an atmosphere of mutual cooperation. Such employees are required to properly identify themselves and be courteous, tactful, and diplomatic in their approach.

I. MATERIAL

In performing Pub. L. 272 reviews, graders have the following material:

1. Government ID.

2. Pub. L. 272 Instruction.

3. Copies of Pub. L. 272 law and explanation of grade terms.

4. Pub. L. 272 report forms.

5. Previous report(s) for follow-up reviews.

II. BACKGROUND INFORMATION

The Meat Grading and Certification Branch uses specific grade terminology, shield marks, etc., in identifying meat and meat products for official USDA quality and yield grade factors. It is the policy of the Branch to prohibit the unofficial use of grade names, shield marks, etc., on any items/commodities not officially graded/certified by qualified AMS agents. In conducting reviews of retail outlets for compliance with Pub. L. 272, the graders shall keep the following examples in mind.

NOTE: These examples are not all inclusive.

1. NONCOMPLYING REPRESENTATION

1. Representing, verbally or written, red meat as being graded when it has not been graded.


She told me it was all USDA Choice.

Now tell me where ANYTHING I said was a lie. Again your own words prove my point. Why don't you go tell SH as he has taken a momentary turn from reality yet again.

The red delicious apple market was ruined by retailers in this manner. The USDA has a mandate to make sure it does not happen in beef. Instead, they are allowing retailers to break the law with impunity. Tyson should be fined everytime their operator answers the phone and gives information that is incorrect when calling their 1-800 number in regards to the USDA grade.

They are not.

It is yet another example of the USDA being either incompetent or corrupt in their carrying out the mandates the Congress has given them.

If there is no penalty for breaking the law, the law doesn't matter. It is non existent. What if we never prosecuted thieves? That is what we have with the USDA and the food industy's pocket politicians.

It isn't rocket science.

They are operating the industry with the thought that they can do ANYTHING THEY WANT UNTIL THEY GET CAUGHT. Then they make the costs they have to pay when they do get caught non ecomomic damages with their pocket judges.

It is total Mexicanization of the USA.
 

Bill

Well-known member
agman said:
Sandhusker said:
Bill said:
As has been mentioned numerous times on this site, Canadian per capita expenditures on US goods is far greater than what Americans spend per capita on Canadian goods. I am sure a banker with all the extra time you seem to have on your hands would be able to figure that out for us. Why don't you get the trade figures Sandhusker and divide by the population of each country and report back to us. Here's a chance to show us how our reasoning is flawed.

Bill, we have a trade deficit with both Canada and China. We have more people than Canada and less than China. Those facts make your following statement tying population to trade pretty foolish; "Looks like you need to be reminded of the 10 times difference in population between Canada and the US. Any suggestions how 30 million Canadians can purchase and consume the same amount as 300 million Americans?"

Now if you'll excuse me, I have another hog to wrestle.

Your comments regarding trade border on the totally absurd. The pig you are wrestling knows more about trade than you do.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Good one.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
"GUIDELINES FOR REVIEWING RETAIL OUTLETS FOR PUB. L. 272 VIOLATIONS

When reviewing retail outlets, USDA employees are expected to do so with proper decorum to encourage an atmosphere of mutual cooperation. Such employees are required to properly identify themselves and be courteous, tactful, and diplomatic in their approach. "


Now how in the world is the inspector going to catch a Walmart meat employee telling a customer that their beef is "choice" when the inspecter identifies himself first? That is like telling drug dealer that you are an undercover agent before trying to bust him.

The USDA is not monitoring the frauds in this industry.

What do you think happens to a customer who thinks they know a little about meat, asks for choice, and gets select?

They might be buying chicken instead next time.
 

agman

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Agman, "Your comments regarding trade border on the totally absurd. The pig you are wrestling knows more about trade than you do.'

Please point out my inaccuracies.

Sorry, but you would not understand anyway.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Bill said:
agman said:
Sandhusker said:
Bill, we have a trade deficit with both Canada and China. We have more people than Canada and less than China. Those facts make your following statement tying population to trade pretty foolish; "Looks like you need to be reminded of the 10 times difference in population between Canada and the US. Any suggestions how 30 million Canadians can purchase and consume the same amount as 300 million Americans?"

Now if you'll excuse me, I have another hog to wrestle.

Your comments regarding trade border on the totally absurd. The pig you are wrestling knows more about trade than you do.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Good one.

Go ahead and point out where I'm wrong, Bill. Have at me.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
agman said:
Sandhusker said:
Agman, "Your comments regarding trade border on the totally absurd. The pig you are wrestling knows more about trade than you do.'

Please point out my inaccuracies.

Sorry, but you would not understand anyway.

Maybe you are sharing SH's delusion, Agman. You know it all and no one else can understand it.
 

agman

Well-known member
Econ101 said:
agman said:
Econ101 said:
For this you only need to do a little exercise, SH. Go to Walmart, buy a piece of meat without the grade on it, then call the number for Tyson on the back and see if the lady answering the phone tells you the grade.

I did it a long time ago.

It seems you will accept no "proof" and look for a loophole in every one of your ridiculous posts. Here is the law on the subject:

EXHIBIT C

GUIDELINES FOR REVIEWING RETAIL OUTLETS FOR PUB. L. 272 VIOLATIONS

When reviewing retail outlets, USDA employees are expected to do so with proper decorum to encourage an atmosphere of mutual cooperation. Such employees are required to properly identify themselves and be courteous, tactful, and diplomatic in their approach.

quote]

Do you really think the lady answering the phone at Tyson knows which quality of beef product goes into Wal-Mart? That is the extent of your research capability which is par for you.

I will tell you what proof I have and that it is Select. I have been in the plants that make the product from select primals and package it for Wal-Mart. There are NO choice lables on that product. Wal-mart's specifications calls for select product. Sam's by the way is choice product.


Agman, here is the quote from the rule that was broken:

It seems you will accept no "proof" and look for a loophole in every one of your ridiculous posts. Here is the law on the subject:

EXHIBIT C

GUIDELINES FOR REVIEWING RETAIL OUTLETS FOR PUB. L. 272 VIOLATIONS

When reviewing retail outlets, USDA employees are expected to do so with proper decorum to encourage an atmosphere of mutual cooperation. Such employees are required to properly identify themselves and be courteous, tactful, and diplomatic in their approach.

I. MATERIAL

In performing Pub. L. 272 reviews, graders have the following material:

1. Government ID.

2. Pub. L. 272 Instruction.

3. Copies of Pub. L. 272 law and explanation of grade terms.

4. Pub. L. 272 report forms.

5. Previous report(s) for follow-up reviews.

II. BACKGROUND INFORMATION

The Meat Grading and Certification Branch uses specific grade terminology, shield marks, etc., in identifying meat and meat products for official USDA quality and yield grade factors. It is the policy of the Branch to prohibit the unofficial use of grade names, shield marks, etc., on any items/commodities not officially graded/certified by qualified AMS agents. In conducting reviews of retail outlets for compliance with Pub. L. 272, the graders shall keep the following examples in mind.

NOTE: These examples are not all inclusive.

1. NONCOMPLYING REPRESENTATION

1. Representing, verbally or written, red meat as being graded when it has not been graded.


She told me it was all USDA Choice.

Now tell me where ANYTHING I said was a lie. Again your own words prove my point. Why don't you go tell SH as he has taken a momentary turn from reality yet again.

The red delicious apple market was ruined by retailers in this manner. The USDA has a mandate to make sure it does not happen in beef. Instead, they are allowing retailers to break the law with impunity. Tyson should be fined everytime their operator answers the phone and gives information that is incorrect when calling their 1-800 number in regards to the USDA grade.

They are not.

It is yet another example of the USDA being either incompetent or corrupt in their carrying out the mandates the Congress has given them.

If there is no penalty for breaking the law, the law doesn't matter. It is non existent. What if we never prosecuted thieves? That is what we have with the USDA and the food industy's pocket politicians.

It isn't rocket science.

They are operating the industry with the thought that they can do ANYTHING THEY WANT UNTIL THEY GET CAUGHT. Then they make the costs they have to pay when they do get caught non ecomomic damages with their pocket judges.


It is total Mexicanization of the USA.


Are you so desperate as to hang your claim on a lady answering the phone? That is even a reach for you. Now if they label select beef as choice beef, which they do not do, then you have a real beef and a violation of the law. Until then you have NOTHING but another absurd claim which is par for you.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
agman said:
Sandhusker said:
Agman, "Your comments regarding trade border on the totally absurd. The pig you are wrestling knows more about trade than you do.'

Please point out my inaccuracies.

Sorry, but you would not understand anyway.

That's not a real impressive answer - nicely arrogant and condecending, but not real impressive. My posts are right here, feel free to cut and paste, highlight, whatever. Make it easy for yourself. What did I state that is incorrect? Maybe you and Bill can get together.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
agman said:
Econ101 said:
agman said:
[/b]

Agman, here is the quote from the rule that was broken:

It seems you will accept no "proof" and look for a loophole in every one of your ridiculous posts. Here is the law on the subject:

EXHIBIT C

GUIDELINES FOR REVIEWING RETAIL OUTLETS FOR PUB. L. 272 VIOLATIONS

When reviewing retail outlets, USDA employees are expected to do so with proper decorum to encourage an atmosphere of mutual cooperation. Such employees are required to properly identify themselves and be courteous, tactful, and diplomatic in their approach.

I. MATERIAL

In performing Pub. L. 272 reviews, graders have the following material:

1. Government ID.

2. Pub. L. 272 Instruction.

3. Copies of Pub. L. 272 law and explanation of grade terms.

4. Pub. L. 272 report forms.

5. Previous report(s) for follow-up reviews.

II. BACKGROUND INFORMATION

The Meat Grading and Certification Branch uses specific grade terminology, shield marks, etc., in identifying meat and meat products for official USDA quality and yield grade factors. It is the policy of the Branch to prohibit the unofficial use of grade names, shield marks, etc., on any items/commodities not officially graded/certified by qualified AMS agents. In conducting reviews of retail outlets for compliance with Pub. L. 272, the graders shall keep the following examples in mind.

NOTE: These examples are not all inclusive.

1. NONCOMPLYING REPRESENTATION

1. Representing, verbally or written, red meat as being graded when it has not been graded.


She told me it was all USDA Choice.

Now tell me where ANYTHING I said was a lie. Again your own words prove my point. Why don't you go tell SH as he has taken a momentary turn from reality yet again.

The red delicious apple market was ruined by retailers in this manner. The USDA has a mandate to make sure it does not happen in beef. Instead, they are allowing retailers to break the law with impunity. Tyson should be fined everytime their operator answers the phone and gives information that is incorrect when calling their 1-800 number in regards to the USDA grade.

They are not.

It is yet another example of the USDA being either incompetent or corrupt in their carrying out the mandates the Congress has given them.

If there is no penalty for breaking the law, the law doesn't matter. It is non existent. What if we never prosecuted thieves? That is what we have with the USDA and the food industy's pocket politicians.

It isn't rocket science.

They are operating the industry with the thought that they can do ANYTHING THEY WANT UNTIL THEY GET CAUGHT. Then they make the costs they have to pay when they do get caught non ecomomic damages with their pocket judges.


It is total Mexicanization of the USA.


Are you so desperate as to hang your claim on a lady answering the phone? That is even a reach for you. Now if they label select beef as choice beef, which they do not do, then you have a real beef and a violation of the law. Until then you have NOTHING but another absurd claim which is par for you.

There is no label, you have to ask. When you ask, you get a lie.

It couldn't be more black and white than that----unless you are a packer backer.

I have found criminals almost always argue they "didn't do it". Sometimes facts prove them wrong. The problem with the USDA monitoring, is that they are told to identify themselves so they can't catch the fraud. They don't want to. They are really packer supporters masquerading as regulators backed by the packer pleasing people in the USDA in Washington DC.

Not too hard to figure out. Phyllis did, why can't someone as smart as you do it?
 
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LAST CHANCE CONMAN,

1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????



You are still CHICKEN DANCING around the questions.

Am I to believe that the proof you have that Walmart is hiding "select" beef behind a choice label is your phone call to some lady at Walmart???

Why do you keep changing your answers? If that was your proof, why didn't you say that from the beginning? I'll tell you why, because you are lying your butt off like you always do. You are a complete phony and everyone with a lick of intelligence has you figured out.

You are such a damn liar and you just proved it again!


~SH~
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
LAST CHANCE CONMAN,

1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????



You are still CHICKEN DANCING around the questions.

Am I to believe that the proof you have that Walmart is hiding "select" beef behind a choice label is your phone call to some lady at Walmart???

Why do you keep changing your answers? If that was your proof, why didn't you say that from the beginning? I'll tell you why, because you are lying your butt off like you always do. You are a complete phony and everyone with a lick of intelligence has you figured out.

You are such a damn liar and you just proved it again!


~SH~

What do you want, someone to spoon feed you?
 
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Anonymous

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DIVERSION CONMAN!

Caught in another lie and no where to turn. Just keep slithering and sliming like the liar you are.


~SH~
 

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