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Econ101

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~SH~ said:
DIVERSION CONMAN!

Caught in another lie and no where to turn. Just keep slithering and sliming like the liar you are.


~SH~

SH, your M O is quoted above.

Where is the lie? Is it a lie anytime anyone doesn't meet your standard of proof or answer your ridiculous questions for it? Do your own homework. I told you how to do it.
 
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Anonymous

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Conman: "Where is the lie?"

You mean this time?

This time the lie was:

1. Packers grading their own cattle
2. Walmart selling "select" beef as "choice"


1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????



What's the problem Conman? Why do you keep doing the circus chicken dance?


~SH~
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Conman: "Where is the lie?"

You mean this time?

This time the lie was:

1. Packers grading their own cattle
2. Walmart selling "select" beef as "choice"


1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????



What's the problem Conman? Why do you keep doing the circus chicken dance?


~SH~

I told you what happened. The meat man at walmart and the lady on the phone BOTH said that the meat was CHOICE.

Now they either

1) graded the meat themselves,

2) lied about it to the customer, or

3) Agman isn't telling the truth about Walmart meat being Select.

Which one is it, SH? Have you repeated the experiment?

I posted the information already that shows that not all cattle are graded. You just don't want to take the USDA's own data as proof on this. If they are supposed to get paid for grading all the cattle they grade for the packers, maybe you could sue the USDA for the difference between what they report as graded and your belief that it is all graded. I am sure the taxpayers would love to have some of their money returned to them.
 

Bill

Well-known member
Econ101 said:
~SH~ said:
Conman: "Where is the lie?"

You mean this time?

This time the lie was:

1. Packers grading their own cattle
2. Walmart selling "select" beef as "choice"


1. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT PACKERS GRADE THEIR OWN CATTLE AND THAT NOT EVERYTHING IS GRADED BY USDA ?????

2. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF TO BACK THE CLAIM THAT WALMART PASSES "SELECT" BEEF OFF AS "CHOICE"????



What's the problem Conman? Why do you keep doing the circus chicken dance?


~SH~

I told you what happened. The meat man at walmart and the lady on the phone BOTH said that the meat was CHOICE.

Now they either

1) graded the meat themselves,

2) lied about it to the customer, or

3) Agman isn't telling the truth about Walmart meat being Select.

Which one is it, SH? Have you repeated the experiment?

I posted the information already that shows that not all cattle are graded. You just don't want to take the USDA's own data as proof on this. If they are supposed to get paid for grading all the cattle they grade for the packers, maybe you could sue the USDA for the difference between what they report as graded and your belief that it is all graded. I am sure the taxpayers would love to have some of their money returned to them.
You're cutting apart the entire US grading system based on the "meat man at walmart and the lady on the phone"?
 
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Anonymous

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Conman: "I told you what happened. The meat man at walmart and the lady on the phone BOTH said that the meat was CHOICE."

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

THAT'S YOUR PROOF THAT WALMART IS SELLING "SELECT" BEEF AS "CHOICE"?????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

WHAT A MORON!


Conman: " posted the information already that shows that not all cattle are graded. You just don't want to take the USDA's own data as proof on this."

Your proof that USDA doesn't grade all the cattle is the beef that is marked, "UNGRADED". LOL! That's just as funny! "UNGRADED" beef doesn't meet the marbling standards for "CHOICE" or "SELECT" so it's marked "UNGRADED" that doesn't mean it was not graded.

Why are you even here? You are so lost you don't know the first thing about this industry. Your a complete phony and you proved it twice in the same post.


~SH~
 

Econ101

Well-known member
Bill:"You're cutting apart the entire US grading system based on the "meat man at walmart and the lady on the phone"?"

No, I am saying that the grading system in some cases (Walmart is the largest retailer in the world) is being circumvented after it leaves the packer's door to the detriment of the consumers (and producers). Real lies are being told to consumers and it is undermining the credibility of the grading system.

I am further saying that the people inspecting these abuses are hampered in their investigations as to whether or not this is happening by having to tell Walmart or other store managers who they are before asking the questions which degrades the integrity of the investigation into a fraud.
 
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Anonymous

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Conman: "No, I am saying that the grading system in some cases (Walmart is the largest retailer in the world) is being circumvented after it leaves the packer's door to the detriment of the consumers (and producers). Real lies are being told to consumers and it is undermining the credibility of the grading system.

I am further saying that the people inspecting these abuses are hampered in their investigations as to whether or not this is happening by having to tell Walmart or other store managers who they are before asking the questions which degrades the integrity of the investigation into a fraud."


Which is nothing more than one more of your many unsupported, factually void, empty conspiracy theories.


~SH~
 

Beefman

Well-known member
Econ101 said:
Bill:"You're cutting apart the entire US grading system based on the "meat man at walmart and the lady on the phone"?"

No, I am saying that the grading system in some cases (Walmart is the largest retailer in the world) is being circumvented after it leaves the packer's door to the detriment of the consumers (and producers). Real lies are being told to consumers and it is undermining the credibility of the grading system.

I am further saying that the people inspecting these abuses are hampered in their investigations as to whether or not this is happening by having to tell Walmart or other store managers who they are before asking the questions which degrades the integrity of the investigation into a fraud.

I don’t know if it’s possible to indicate strongly enough how incredibly wrong and inaccurate this statement is. To suggest the “lady on the phone” as well as the “meat man” (who has just recently entered this story), are claiming the product is “Choice”, and as such subbing Select for Choice and selling it as such.

I don’t know which will win you the yarn of the week, either this, or….

Your post from Tuesday, entitled “The Packing Industry's Dirty Little Secrets”, which is a 10 year old story about a disgruntled USDA inspector in a buritto plant……..

or your one from Wednesday, entitled “Is It Just Big Packers Protecting Inside Racism or What?” Racism is no joking matter, and unfortunately, still touches our society. But to suggest “Is It Just Big Packers Protecting Inside Racism or What” is truly a major disappointment, even for you.

Your intentions to discredit Walmart and Tyson knows no boundary. Give it up.
 

Econ101

Well-known member
Beefman said:
Econ101 said:
Bill:"You're cutting apart the entire US grading system based on the "meat man at walmart and the lady on the phone"?"

No, I am saying that the grading system in some cases (Walmart is the largest retailer in the world) is being circumvented after it leaves the packer's door to the detriment of the consumers (and producers). Real lies are being told to consumers and it is undermining the credibility of the grading system.

I am further saying that the people inspecting these abuses are hampered in their investigations as to whether or not this is happening by having to tell Walmart or other store managers who they are before asking the questions which degrades the integrity of the investigation into a fraud.

I don’t know if it’s possible to indicate strongly enough how incredibly wrong and inaccurate this statement is. To suggest the “lady on the phone” as well as the “meat man” (who has just recently entered this story), are claiming the product is “Choice”, and as such subbing Select for Choice and selling it as such.

I don’t know which will win you the yarn of the week, either this, or….

Your post from Tuesday, entitled “The Packing Industry's Dirty Little Secrets”, which is a 10 year old story about a disgruntled USDA inspector in a buritto plant……..

or your one from Wednesday, entitled “Is It Just Big Packers Protecting Inside Racism or What?” Racism is no joking matter, and unfortunately, still touches our society. But to suggest “Is It Just Big Packers Protecting Inside Racism or What” is truly a major disappointment, even for you.

Your intentions to discredit Walmart and Tyson knows no boundary. Give it up.

Beefman, the problems of racism are caused largley because of attitudes we all carry around. In the story I posted it showed how corporate management can play a role in its success or failure. When we don't recognize the issues before us and the problems until the possibility of a lawsuit is filed, we have failed to do our part in stopping it. In this case, if the facts hold up in court, the packing plant is plant is partly responsible for what happened. You are right, it could have happened in another industry, but this is the article that was current.

As for the USDA inspector's interview, it is timeless. It shows that there have been problems at the USDA for a long time. Maybe the USDA should get in a little trouble over these kind of things and change them. I would like to see them do a little more than bend over for the industries they regulate even though you may not.

Walmart has a lot of good things in it and my wife and I still shop there. The way they handled their meat in my case--and I know this was just one time for me--was fraudulent. You can't say anything else about it. You are welcome to conduct your own little test in your own Walmart. Same with any other branded beef product. The facts substantiate the claims I made that SH wants me to prove. I didn't just make it up. Have you tried doing this in your Walmart? What were the results? At least my allegations are founded on actual events and yours are just made up.

Investigators are barred from identifying this type of fraud by having to identify themselves before asking the questions I asked. This is not fraud by Walmart, this is fraud by the USDA and the integrity of the type of investigations it does. It is the "devil in the details" that we don't come across very often and are just there. It still doesn't help the guys feeding out choice cattle and wanting a premium over select for them.

I know I put a catchy title on the post topic. I did it to get you to respond and have this discussion. At least you will probably think a little harder about racism than before, and maybe the information the customers are getting on the retail end.
 

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