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DOES THIS ARTICLE HAVE THAT GOOD OLE NCBA SLANT

Sandhusker

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MRJ, "OT, isn't it a fact that the imported beef, or any other meat for that matter, must be as well, or better inspected than US beef is?"

I"ll answer for him; NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

ranch hand

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Lets tell them that we are willing to have REAL traceback of all beef to the farm of origin, with a means that will not disappear when the hide is removed.

MRJ.....doesn't the head come off with the hide, the ear with the head, and the tag with the ear? :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:
 
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Anonymous

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MRJ said:
Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
OT the USDA label guarantees a product that has been inspected by the USDA. Sell to a branded program that labels your beef PRODUCT of USA

But 99.95% of all imported product is not looked at by a USDA inspector- or even a US person...This is part of the deception and the fraud...

This is one of the reason HHS secretary Tommy Thompson, during his departure speach, said that imported food products are wide open to terrorist threat.......

With an escalating World War going on and the terrorist threat of today- US consumers have the right (like most of the consumers of the world already do) to know what country the food they are making buying decisions about comes from.....

OT, isn't it a fact that the imported beef, or any other meat for that matter, must be as well, or better inspected than US beef is? Also that the foreign inspectors must be trained by US inspectors to do the job correctly? Also that there are spot checks to assure compliance and failures will result in recalls?

NO -- Maxine- In Mexico and much of South America government officials are expected to collect their salaries thru graft...These officials are the ones doing the inspecting- Not USDA employees...Don't you just wonder a little what they let slip by to make that graft :???:

Now, lets get honest with our consumers and admit to them that COOL as written does NOTHING to improve the safety of beef to the consumer. Lets tell them that we are willing to have REAL traceback of all beef to the farm of origin, with a means that will not disappear when the hide is removed.

So, you who fear packer shenanigans should ask Porker how his system can protect you from that by identifying EVERYONE as to exactly when they had control of each piece of beef and what they did that might have caused, or contributed to, any health problem.

We will have a better cattle business, price wise, when the few bad apples in the producer end of things who try to cheat by using off-label treatments or give injections incorrectly are exposed!

Stop telling the consumer that all US beef is perfect and implying that all imported is "crap", and worst of all, that COOL will do anything beneficial for thir health.

Maxine- the USDA's proposed M-ID will not trace cattle beyond the time its head comes off- and can not be used for pasture to plate anyway...Most packers are years away from being set up to follow from pasture to plate- and are fighting against that part of the concept...If you proposed to add that to M-COOL if implemented tommorrow, the packers would still oppose it...Its a smokescreen...

All beef/cattle being imported is right now identified to the country of origin- all that is not being required is for the Packer/retailer to tell the truth......

At least M-COOL would allow my family members or any consumers to decide if they want to eat that Mexican meat being inspected by an inspector that would sell his sister for $5- or beef from a higher risk BSE country like Canada....Those decisions should be left to the consumer....

Does it not bother you to promote lying to, cheating, and defrauding consumers by promoting the Packer/retailers ability to purposely and knowingly remove the labels from beef-- restamp with a USDA inspected label (when no USDA employee has ever seen it) and passing it off as a US product?


MRJ
 

ranch hand

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Looks like the big boys are jumping ship again.

NCBA Announces Departure of Dr. Gary Weber: NCBA’s Executive Director of Regulatory Affairs Gary Weber will depart his position effective August 31, 2006 to take on a new role as Chief Operating Officer of Harrison Ethanol, LLC. Dr. Weber, NCBA’s resident animal health scientist since 1994, has served cattlemen on public policy issues related to meat inspection, animal health, beef safety, research and education and has been a trusted expert on these issues working with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Food and Drug Administration, Environmental Protection Agency, and members of the U.S. Congress. Dr. Weber was NCBA’s lead spokesperson on BSE, often appearing on network television news programs and conducting interviews with print publications from across the globe. Earlier this summer, the Food and Drug Administration honored Dr. Weber with a “Special Citation” for his work in the animal health sector, specifically for helping to prevent the spread of BSE in the United States.



NCBA’s Vice President of Government Affairs Jay Truitt says “Gary has served our industry through its toughest challenges as the face and voice of NCBA. In every case he has excelled in representing and leading our industry. Gary is a loyal friend, an excellent strategist, a relationship builder, a trusted adviser, a mentor to me, and many that have worked with him. Our entire staff, NCBA and the cattle industry will miss him greatly. He has assured me that we will continue to have him as an actively participating member of NCBA, and I am grateful for that.”
 

mrj

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ranch hand said:
Lets tell them that we are willing to have REAL traceback of all beef to the farm of origin, with a means that will not disappear when the hide is removed.

MRJ.....doesn't the head come off with the hide, the ear with the head, and the tag with the ear? :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:

Ask Porker how that is done. He says his outfit (Scoring Systems) traces the meat all the way to the retailer, by the single package, I believe.

MRJ
 

ranch hand

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MRJ said:
ranch hand said:
Lets tell them that we are willing to have REAL traceback of all beef to the farm of origin, with a means that will not disappear when the hide is removed.

MRJ.....doesn't the head come off with the hide, the ear with the head, and the tag with the ear? :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:

Ask Porker how that is done. He says his outfit (Scoring Systems) traces the meat all the way to the retailer, by the single package, I believe.

MRJ

But mam, he said he can work with brands and you say it won't work.
 
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Anonymous

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ranch hand said:
MRJ said:
ranch hand said:
MRJ.....doesn't the head come off with the hide, the ear with the head, and the tag with the ear? :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:

Ask Porker how that is done. He says his outfit (Scoring Systems) traces the meat all the way to the retailer, by the single package, I believe.

MRJ

But mam, he said he can work with brands and you say it won't work.

ranch hand-- Thats easy to explain- With brands NCBA won't get their percentage off the sale from their Allflex partnership or their database entry...Anything that doesn't profit NCBA, Maxine opposes...
 

mrj

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ranch hand said:
MRJ said:
ranch hand said:
MRJ.....doesn't the head come off with the hide, the ear with the head, and the tag with the ear? :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:

Ask Porker how that is done. He says his outfit (Scoring Systems) traces the meat all the way to the retailer, by the single package, I believe.

MRJ

But mam, he said he can work with brands and you say it won't work.

But sir, I believe it IS working with electronic ID, but do not know if it is actually being done with brands, ON A NATIONAL SCALE.

There can be quite a leap of faith between saying something CAN be done, and the actual DOING of it!

It is one thing to do something like that with a few brands on a voluntary basis, but if it were mandatory, I believe it would require a very complicated system to sort out all the recorded, and non-recorded brands being used across the USA. Then there would be the duplicates of legal brands.........and probably more that I, not being omniscient about brands and branding across the nation haven't thought of.

I'm not saying it couldn't be done......only that RFID tag reading might be a piece of cake compared with 'reading' and recording all those brands and getting the cattle with many owners of the same brand in different states, ACCURATELY identifying all the packages of beef in the USA up to the retailer or consumer. The costs of setting up a brand reading system might be extremely high. No system is going to be perfect, nor cost effective immediately and without plenty of problems to be solved, is my guess.

MRJ
 

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