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Donald Trump not backing down on O's birth certificate

Faster horses

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I'm beginning to like this guy more and more:


Donald Trump is not backing down from his demand that President Barack Obama produce his birth certificate and stepped up his criticism by questioning why he has not released other personal records, including college transcripts and legislative papers.

The billionaire real estate tycoon and star of “The Apprentice” created a stir on Wednesday when he said on “The View” that Obama must release his birth certificate.

Now Trump has reiterated his call in an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, with this simple message for Obama: Why don’t you produce your birth certificate and put to rest all speculation that you were born outside the United States?

He says Obama’s birth certificate controversy is a “strange situation” — there are conflicting reports as to what Honolulu hospital he was born at, and the governor of Hawaii claims he somehow remembers Obama being born 50 years ago.


Trump, who says he will soon announce if he will run for president in 2012, also says Libya is a “total mess,” with Iran possibly behind the rebels and waiting to take over the country, and charges that the United States is going to “hell in a hand basket.”

“It’s a very simple situation,” Trump says in regard to the birth certificate issue. “I’d just like to see his birth certificate.

“I’m hearing all sorts of stories that his own family can’t agree which hospital he was born in and lots of other things, and I’m trying to find out where is the birth certificate. I have a birth certificate. Where is his birth certificate?

“If you’re born in this country, to the best of my knowledge people have a birth certificate.”

Obama asserts that he was born in Honolulu, but former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip Berg has claimed that Obama’s paternal grandmother says she was in the delivery room when he was born in Kenya.

There are even differing reports about which Honolulu hospital he may have been born at. During his 2008 presidential campaign numerous reports indicated Obama was born at the Queen's Medical Center. Later, Obama's half sister said he was born at the Katiolani Medical Center.

After questions were raised about his birth, Obama's campaign released a Certification of Live Birth. The form is a summary document and does not include the newborn's location of birth. The long-form Birth Certificate includes such data, but Obama has declined to release it.

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie first ordered the state attorney general and health department director to release more information about Obama’s birth there, then abandoned that pursuit.

“It is an amazing situation,” Trump says of the governor’s actions.
“And later the governor said, but I remember when he was born. I said, what? You actually remember when somebody was born? It sounded very unusual that a Democratic governor would remember when somebody was born 50 years ago.

“I assume that Obama was born in the United States. I assume he was probably born in Hawaii. But I have to get rid of the word ‘assume.’ If somebody wants to run for president you have to be born in this country.

And when the family argues about which hospital it was because they’re not sure, as has been reported, and you don’t have a birth certificate, it’s sort of a strange situation.”

Trump adds: “I don’t want there to be a question. I think it would be wonderful news for everybody, including me, if the birth certificate is found. But at this moment there is no birth certificate.

“Some people say it exists, and if it exists, even worse, why isn’t he showing it? So I would like to see a birth certificate, and when the governor and everybody else say they think it exists, why don’t they produce it?”

Asked if Obama has fulfilled his campaign pledge to have the most transparent administration, Trump responds: “Certainly he hasn’t in terms of his birth, and I guess a lot of college records and other records haven’t been produced, and that’s a little unusual. Why wouldn’t you produce your records?

“There are client lists that haven’t been produced and lobbying lists that haven’t been produced, so there are a lot of things that haven’t been produced for somebody who is supposed to be so transparent.

“There’s certainly not a lot of transparency.”

Asked about the Obama administration’s handling of the rebellion in Libya, Trump tells Newsmax: “For one thing, if you’re going to save lives on a humanitarian basis you should have started sooner, because many of those lives are gone.

“For another thing, you really have to find out who you’re fighting for. Who are the rebels? You have some people who say that Iran is controlling the rebels, that Iran is the happiest of all nations because they think as soon as we leave they’re going to go in with the rebels and take over Libya.

“I hear more and more reports that the rebels aren’t the sweetest people on earth either. It looks to me like it’s a total mess.”

Polls show Trump among the leaders in the GOP field for the 2012 presidential nomination. Asked if he has decided whether or not to run, Trump says: “I will be announcing one way or another somewhere prior to June.

“I hate what’s happening to this country. It’s never been at a point like this, ever. We’re not respected. We’re scoffed at. We’re laughed at by other places. People from China and other places cannot believe they’re getting away with what they’re getting away with. We’re rebuilding China. We’re rebuilding other countries, and our country is going to hell in a hand basket.

“One thing I can say, if I ran and if I won, that would stop, and everybody knows it. I think that’s why I do well in the polls.”




© Newsmax. All rights reserved.


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Tex

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
I'm beginning to like this guy more and more:


Donald Trump is not backing down from his demand that President Barack Obama produce his birth certificate and stepped up his criticism by questioning why he has not released other personal records, including college transcripts and legislative papers.

The billionaire real estate tycoon and star of “The Apprentice” created a stir on Wednesday when he said on “The View” that Obama must release his birth certificate.

Now Trump has reiterated his call in an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, with this simple message for Obama: Why don’t you produce your birth certificate and put to rest all speculation that you were born outside the United States?

He says Obama’s birth certificate controversy is a “strange situation” — there are conflicting reports as to what Honolulu hospital he was born at, and the governor of Hawaii claims he somehow remembers Obama being born 50 years ago.


Trump, who says he will soon announce if he will run for president in 2012, also says Libya is a “total mess,” with Iran possibly behind the rebels and waiting to take over the country, and charges that the United States is going to “hell in a hand basket.”

“It’s a very simple situation,” Trump says in regard to the birth certificate issue. “I’d just like to see his birth certificate.

“I’m hearing all sorts of stories that his own family can’t agree which hospital he was born in and lots of other things, and I’m trying to find out where is the birth certificate. I have a birth certificate. Where is his birth certificate?

“If you’re born in this country, to the best of my knowledge people have a birth certificate.”

Obama asserts that he was born in Honolulu, but former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip Berg has claimed that Obama’s paternal grandmother says she was in the delivery room when he was born in Kenya.

There are even differing reports about which Honolulu hospital he may have been born at. During his 2008 presidential campaign numerous reports indicated Obama was born at the Queen's Medical Center. Later, Obama's half sister said he was born at the Katiolani Medical Center.

After questions were raised about his birth, Obama's campaign released a Certification of Live Birth. The form is a summary document and does not include the newborn's location of birth. The long-form Birth Certificate includes such data, but Obama has declined to release it.

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie first ordered the state attorney general and health department director to release more information about Obama’s birth there, then abandoned that pursuit.

“It is an amazing situation,” Trump says of the governor’s actions.
“And later the governor said, but I remember when he was born. I said, what? You actually remember when somebody was born? It sounded very unusual that a Democratic governor would remember when somebody was born 50 years ago.

“I assume that Obama was born in the United States. I assume he was probably born in Hawaii. But I have to get rid of the word ‘assume.’ If somebody wants to run for president you have to be born in this country.

And when the family argues about which hospital it was because they’re not sure, as has been reported, and you don’t have a birth certificate, it’s sort of a strange situation.”

Trump adds: “I don’t want there to be a question. I think it would be wonderful news for everybody, including me, if the birth certificate is found. But at this moment there is no birth certificate.

“Some people say it exists, and if it exists, even worse, why isn’t he showing it? So I would like to see a birth certificate, and when the governor and everybody else say they think it exists, why don’t they produce it?”

Asked if Obama has fulfilled his campaign pledge to have the most transparent administration, Trump responds: “Certainly he hasn’t in terms of his birth, and I guess a lot of college records and other records haven’t been produced, and that’s a little unusual. Why wouldn’t you produce your records?

“There are client lists that haven’t been produced and lobbying lists that haven’t been produced, so there are a lot of things that haven’t been produced for somebody who is supposed to be so transparent.

“There’s certainly not a lot of transparency.”

Asked about the Obama administration’s handling of the rebellion in Libya, Trump tells Newsmax: “For one thing, if you’re going to save lives on a humanitarian basis you should have started sooner, because many of those lives are gone.

“For another thing, you really have to find out who you’re fighting for. Who are the rebels? You have some people who say that Iran is controlling the rebels, that Iran is the happiest of all nations because they think as soon as we leave they’re going to go in with the rebels and take over Libya.

“I hear more and more reports that the rebels aren’t the sweetest people on earth either. It looks to me like it’s a total mess.”

Polls show Trump among the leaders in the GOP field for the 2012 presidential nomination. Asked if he has decided whether or not to run, Trump says: “I will be announcing one way or another somewhere prior to June.

“I hate what’s happening to this country. It’s never been at a point like this, ever. We’re not respected. We’re scoffed at. We’re laughed at by other places. People from China and other places cannot believe they’re getting away with what they’re getting away with. We’re rebuilding China. We’re rebuilding other countries, and our country is going to hell in a hand basket.

“One thing I can say, if I ran and if I won, that would stop, and everybody knows it. I think that’s why I do well in the polls.”




© Newsmax. All rights reserved.


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While I have sympathy with Trump's view, he forgets to lay the ultimate
responsibility of citizenship certification on the chief justice who swore him
in.

Chief Justice Roberts, THIS WAS YOUR JOB. DID YOU DO IT BEFORE SWEARING IN
PRESIDENT OBAMA OR DO YOU NEED TO BE IMPEACHED FOR DERELICTION OF DUTY TO THE
COUNTRY IN SWEARING IN A PERSON NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT UNDER THE
CONSTITUTION?

THERE HAS TO BE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY HERE TO THOSE IN CHARGE!!!-----or pretending to be.


Tex
 

Steve

Well-known member
While I have sympathy with Trump's view, he forgets to lay the ultimate
responsibility of citizenship certification on the chief justice who swore him
in.

Chief Justice Roberts, THIS WAS YOUR JOB. DID YOU DO IT BEFORE SWEARING IN
PRESIDENT OBAMA OR DO YOU NEED TO BE IMPEACHED FOR DERELICTION OF DUTY TO THE
COUNTRY IN SWEARING IN A PERSON NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT UNDER THE
CONSTITUTION?

THERE HAS TO BE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY HERE TO THOSE IN CHARGE!!!-----or pretending to be.


Tex


are you sure your the same Tex? because I agree that those in charge of verifying it should be the ones answering to the charges..

the list is long... the states, electoral college, congress.. and any one else who should have seen the BC before letting him even run, let alone take the office...

for the life of me I can't understand how factcheck became the final say in who is eligible..
 

Tam

Well-known member
Heads at the Justice Department and Supreme Court should roll for not looking into any and all cases requesting he show his records. This as Obama likes to say should be a learning moment. No rock should have been left unturned in an investigation when a case of fraud this hugh surfaced. The Justice Department should have to investigate any and all cases questioning a candidates qualifications AND The Supreme Court should have to hear any case that pertains to the qualifications of the President and should not be able to use the person filing has no standing as an excuse not to do their jobs. Every American Voter should have standings on the issue of the qualifications of the US President as a fraud like Obama is suspected of, hurts the whole country not just those that happen to be running against him in an election. :roll: The Supreme Court has an obligation to see to it the US Constitution is upheld to protect all citzens not just politicans :x

I hope Trump and anyone else running in the 2012 election requests he show ALL his personal records before being allowed to run for re-election and if he can't or won't then he should be escorted to prison until he does. If it turns out he was not qualified, He should he jailed for the rest of his life and the heads at the DNC, Justice Department and Supreme Court, and US Federal Election officials should be forced out of their jobs if not jailed also for allowing this fraud to happen on their watch.
 

beethoven

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaeqaAQ3XZA

maybe he will be too busy now with all this to vandalize scotland. and did he think scotland didnt have enough golf?
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
I'm glad Trump's causing some waves with this issue. Many people would rather not even discuss the subject in public because they don't want to be called kooks or "birthers". Sort of like OT labeling anyone associated with the TeaParty as racists, anarchists, etc.

I've often wondered why all the secrecy surrounding Obama's college records...application, grades, etc. Is there something really damaging there that he's hiding or just perhaps embarrassed by? Either way, it all makes his claims of transparency ring hollow.....not that that bothers any of his koolaid drinking followers.

He's the biggest liar to hold the office since Nixon.
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Whitewing said:
I'm glad Trump's causing some waves with this issue. Many people would rather not even discuss the subject in public because they don't want to be called kooks or "birthers". Sort of like OT labeling anyone associated with the TeaParty as racists, anarchists, etc.

I've often wondered why all the secrecy surrounding Obama's college records...application, grades, etc. Is there something really damaging there that he's hiding or just perhaps embarrassed by? Either way, it all makes his claims of transparency ring hollow.....not that that bothers any of his koolaid drinking followers.

He's the biggest liar to hold the office since Nixon.

Those on the right will constantly be called names by the left trying to negate the Right's beliefs. So do we capitulate or stand by our convictions. We will be called names either way so the choice should be easy.
 

hopalong

Well-known member
What is the fuss all about!!!!

oldtimer has seen the B.C. and can certify obama as being born! and after all we know that oldtimer is much more in tune with the world affairs than
Trump and he also has a lot more credibility, almost as much as Obama :wink:
 

Trinity man

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
I'm beginning to like this guy more and more:


Donald Trump is not backing down from his demand that President Barack Obama produce his birth certificate and stepped up his criticism by questioning why he has not released other personal records, including college transcripts and legislative papers.

The billionaire real estate tycoon and star of “The Apprentice” created a stir on Wednesday when he said on “The View” that Obama must release his birth certificate.

Now Trump has reiterated his call in an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, with this simple message for Obama: Why don’t you produce your birth certificate and put to rest all speculation that you were born outside the United States?

He says Obama’s birth certificate controversy is a “strange situation” — there are conflicting reports as to what Honolulu hospital he was born at, and the governor of Hawaii claims he somehow remembers Obama being born 50 years ago.


Trump, who says he will soon announce if he will run for president in 2012, also says Libya is a “total mess,” with Iran possibly behind the rebels and waiting to take over the country, and charges that the United States is going to “hell in a hand basket.”

“It’s a very simple situation,” Trump says in regard to the birth certificate issue. “I’d just like to see his birth certificate.

“I’m hearing all sorts of stories that his own family can’t agree which hospital he was born in and lots of other things, and I’m trying to find out where is the birth certificate. I have a birth certificate. Where is his birth certificate?

“If you’re born in this country, to the best of my knowledge people have a birth certificate.”

Obama asserts that he was born in Honolulu, but former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip Berg has claimed that Obama’s paternal grandmother says she was in the delivery room when he was born in Kenya.

There are even differing reports about which Honolulu hospital he may have been born at. During his 2008 presidential campaign numerous reports indicated Obama was born at the Queen's Medical Center. Later, Obama's half sister said he was born at the Katiolani Medical Center.

After questions were raised about his birth, Obama's campaign released a Certification of Live Birth. The form is a summary document and does not include the newborn's location of birth. The long-form Birth Certificate includes such data, but Obama has declined to release it.

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie first ordered the state attorney general and health department director to release more information about Obama’s birth there, then abandoned that pursuit.

“It is an amazing situation,” Trump says of the governor’s actions.
“And later the governor said, but I remember when he was born. I said, what? You actually remember when somebody was born? It sounded very unusual that a Democratic governor would remember when somebody was born 50 years ago.

“I assume that Obama was born in the United States. I assume he was probably born in Hawaii. But I have to get rid of the word ‘assume.’ If somebody wants to run for president you have to be born in this country.

And when the family argues about which hospital it was because they’re not sure, as has been reported, and you don’t have a birth certificate, it’s sort of a strange situation.”

Trump adds: “I don’t want there to be a question. I think it would be wonderful news for everybody, including me, if the birth certificate is found. But at this moment there is no birth certificate.

“Some people say it exists, and if it exists, even worse, why isn’t he showing it? So I would like to see a birth certificate, and when the governor and everybody else say they think it exists, why don’t they produce it?”

Asked if Obama has fulfilled his campaign pledge to have the most transparent administration, Trump responds: “Certainly he hasn’t in terms of his birth, and I guess a lot of college records and other records haven’t been produced, and that’s a little unusual. Why wouldn’t you produce your records?

“There are client lists that haven’t been produced and lobbying lists that haven’t been produced, so there are a lot of things that haven’t been produced for somebody who is supposed to be so transparent.

“There’s certainly not a lot of transparency.”

Asked about the Obama administration’s handling of the rebellion in Libya, Trump tells Newsmax: “For one thing, if you’re going to save lives on a humanitarian basis you should have started sooner, because many of those lives are gone.

“For another thing, you really have to find out who you’re fighting for. Who are the rebels? You have some people who say that Iran is controlling the rebels, that Iran is the happiest of all nations because they think as soon as we leave they’re going to go in with the rebels and take over Libya.

“I hear more and more reports that the rebels aren’t the sweetest people on earth either. It looks to me like it’s a total mess.”

Polls show Trump among the leaders in the GOP field for the 2012 presidential nomination. Asked if he has decided whether or not to run, Trump says: “I will be announcing one way or another somewhere prior to June.

“I hate what’s happening to this country. It’s never been at a point like this, ever. We’re not respected. We’re scoffed at. We’re laughed at by other places. People from China and other places cannot believe they’re getting away with what they’re getting away with. We’re rebuilding China. We’re rebuilding other countries, and our country is going to hell in a hand basket.

“One thing I can say, if I ran and if I won, that would stop, and everybody knows it. I think that’s why I do well in the polls.”




© Newsmax. All rights reserved.


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I do to. :agree: :cowboy: :cboy: :tiphat:
 

Mike

Well-known member
This past November, Donald Trump filed for Chapter 11 a second time. Again, Trump asked to be able to restructure his company's debt and overhaul its aging casinos. Under the voluntary bankruptcy filing, Trump Atlantic City Associates, which is 99 percent owned by Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts Inc., listed $1.3 billion in debt and $1.5 million in assets.

The only ones who come out ahead in a bankruptcy is the owner and the lender (the banks). All of the small business creditors get stiffed.
Just as is happening now to the middle class in the U.S.

I don't like the guy and never will. He is an egotistic opportunist that revels in attention.
 

Steve

Well-known member
beethoven said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaeqaAQ3XZA

maybe he will be too busy now with all this to vandalize scotland. and did he think scotland didnt have enough golf?

Trump is used to using the local governments to force homeowners out of their homes,.. and will even bulldoze a church or two if necessary (St. Andrews Lutheran Church)

I support property rights.. I think eminent domain for private corporations is obscene.. Trump thinks it is acceptable to steal people's homes.. (and churches)
 

Tex

Well-known member
Mike said:
This past November, Donald Trump filed for Chapter 11 a second time. Again, Trump asked to be able to restructure his company's debt and overhaul its aging casinos. Under the voluntary bankruptcy filing, Trump Atlantic City Associates, which is 99 percent owned by Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts Inc., listed $1.3 billion in debt and $1.5 million in assets.

The only ones who come out ahead in a bankruptcy is the owner and the lender (the banks). All of the small business creditors get stiffed.
Just as is happening now to the middle class in the U.S.

I don't like the guy and never will. He is an egotistic opportunist that revels in attention.

I am with you on this one, Mike. It is Trump's kind of thinking by our politicians that has bankrupted our country.

Tex
 
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