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Durbin humiliates Vitter on proposed ACORN prohibition.

Lonecowboy

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too bad that it failed, sounded like it should have had bi-partisan support

oh yea, it did, just not enough, at least Montana's Senator's got it right though!!! :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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Are these the same Dems that ask for no money to be given to Illinois, unless Blagovitch is impeached.

do they want him out, before he talks, lets the cat out of the bag.

ACORN should be fully investigated, the same as Blago, and then receive stimulus funds.

That is the fair and transparent way of doing things.

I fully expect that was the point of the Republican.

Why are we giving money to crooks? As some of us listened to "Blago" excuses, he let us know he has also done "good deeds", but that does not excuse him, like ACORN, it does not escuse them of fraud, just because they helped out some.!

Why do some think you can replace a criminal act with one good deed?
 

Sandhusker

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badaxemoo said:
http://www.congressmatters.com/storyonly/2009/2/7/145039/1391/438/581

I notice that he didn't refute, or even address, the voter fraud. You just tell half the story, and the rest just doesn't matter. I noticed Chairman Maobama doing the same thing with his tax-cheats appointments.
 

badaxemoo

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Sandhusker said:
badaxemoo said:
http://www.congressmatters.com/storyonly/2009/2/7/145039/1391/438/581

I notice that he didn't refute, or even address, the voter fraud. You just tell half the story, and the rest just doesn't matter. I noticed Chairman Maobama doing the same thing with his tax-cheats appointments.

Find me a few examples of people actually voting using these fraudulent registrations and then I will get concerned.

After all, wasn't it ACORN that brought the matter to the attention of the authorities in the first place?

The Red Cross had a scandal a few years back - should they lose out on federal grants?

This is just a simple case of Republican grandstanding, using the urban poor as a cudgel, but its no surprise, they've been doing it since Reagan.
 

badaxemoo

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Sandhusker said:
So you're admitting fraudulent registrations?

I'm not "admitting" anything. I am not a member or employee of ACORN.

My understanding is that a bunch of ACORN employees went out and filled their registration sheets with bogus information, much of it ridiculous, to make a few bucks.

I suppose those are fraudulent registrations.

Was there any evidence that they were used to vote? How could they be?
 

Sandhusker

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badaxemoo said:
Sandhusker said:
So you're admitting fraudulent registrations?

I'm not "admitting" anything. I am not a member or employee of ACORN.

My understanding is that a bunch of ACORN employees went out and filled their registration sheets with bogus information, much of it ridiculous, to make a few bucks.

I suppose those are fraudulent registrations.

Was there any evidence that they were used to vote? How could they be?

Investigators probing ACORN have learned that an Ohio man registered to vote several times and cast a bogus ballot with a fake address, officials said yesterday, as they revealed that nearly 4,000 registration applications supplied by the left-leaning activist group were suspect.

The vote of Darnell Nash, one of four people subpoenaed in a Cuyahoga County probe of ACORN's voter-registration activities, was canceled and his case was turned over to local prosecutors and law enforcement, Board of Elections officials said yesterday.

Nash had registered to vote repeatedly from an address that belonged to a legitimately registered voter, officials said during a hearing at which the subpoenaed voters were to testify.

Board officials had contacted Nash this summer, questioned his address and told him to stop repeat registering.

But still, he breezed into Ohio election offices - the state allows early voting for president - reregistered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot, officials said.

"He came in on 9/30 and Mr. Nash again registered to vote at [someone else's] address, and he cast a ballot," said board official Jane Platten.

Nash did not turn up for the hearing.
 

hypocritexposer

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oops!

Maybe we should just "suspend" ACORN's stimulus payments, until a full investigation is done. And that should wait until Blagojvitch testifies.

Would that be fair? Or how about this, everyone who has worked for ACORN in the past should show their vaulted birth certificates, before they acquire funds.

We could cover this under the "Pay Americans First" clause!
 

badaxemoo

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Sandhusker said:
badaxemoo said:
Sandhusker said:
So you're admitting fraudulent registrations?

I'm not "admitting" anything. I am not a member or employee of ACORN.

My understanding is that a bunch of ACORN employees went out and filled their registration sheets with bogus information, much of it ridiculous, to make a few bucks.

I suppose those are fraudulent registrations.

Was there any evidence that they were used to vote? How could they be?

Investigators probing ACORN have learned that an Ohio man registered to vote several times and cast a bogus ballot with a fake address, officials said yesterday, as they revealed that nearly 4,000 registration applications supplied by the left-leaning activist group were suspect.

The vote of Darnell Nash, one of four people subpoenaed in a Cuyahoga County probe of ACORN's voter-registration activities, was canceled and his case was turned over to local prosecutors and law enforcement, Board of Elections officials said yesterday.

Nash had registered to vote repeatedly from an address that belonged to a legitimately registered voter, officials said during a hearing at which the subpoenaed voters were to testify.

Board officials had contacted Nash this summer, questioned his address and told him to stop repeat registering.

But still, he breezed into Ohio election offices - the state allows early voting for president - reregistered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot, officials said.

"He came in on 9/30 and Mr. Nash again registered to vote at [someone else's] address, and he cast a ballot," said board official Jane Platten.

Nash did not turn up for the hearing.

And I bet further investigation could yield a handful more.

A few years ago, after a bunch of Republican bloviating about voter fraud, one of the AUSDAs undertook a investigation and was able to turn up three cases in a state of 5 million people, of voter fraud.

Two Democratic, One Republican.

The issues of voter suppression, inadequate polling places and workers, and malfunctioning voting machines, dwarf the problem of voter fraud in Wisconsin.

Just because ACORN collected his information, doesn't mean they are in any way complicit in voter fraud - they are just doing what they always have, registering people to vote who typically don't.

And I, for one, want to see a whole lot more of that.
 

badaxemoo

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Sandhusker said:
You asked for evidence of a fraudulent registration resulting in a vote. I gave you one.

You gave me an example of an individual committing voter fraud.

How was ACORN complicit in this fraud?

Are you supposed to conduct an FBI background check when you register voters?

Where is the grand conspiracy?
 

Sandhusker

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badaxemoo said:
Sandhusker said:
You asked for evidence of a fraudulent registration resulting in a vote. I gave you one.

You gave me an example of an individual committing voter fraud.

How was ACORN complicit in this fraud?

Are you supposed to conduct an FBI background check when you register voters?

Where is the grand conspiracy?

So now you're implying that voting fraud couldn't happen via an ACORN fraudulent registration? You're not really interested in the truth, are you?
 

badaxemoo

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Sandhusker said:
badaxemoo said:
Sandhusker said:
You asked for evidence of a fraudulent registration resulting in a vote. I gave you one.

You gave me an example of an individual committing voter fraud.

How was ACORN complicit in this fraud?

Are you supposed to conduct an FBI background check when you register voters?

Where is the grand conspiracy?

So now you're implying that voting fraud couldn't happen via an ACORN fraudulent registration? You're not really interested in the truth, are you?

You've obviously never worked a voter registration drive.

Of course it is possible that it could happen. It is just highly unprobable.

When someone registers Daffy Duck to vote and gives a bogus address, do you really think they are going to get their vote counted?

Republicans and their daytime radio dipsticks are hinting that ACORN is in some kind of conspiracy going on to commit voter fraud.

There is absolutely no evidence of that.
 

badaxemoo

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Steve said:
Badaxemoo
There is absolutely no evidence of that.

just one of the 369,000 links for voter fraud acorn...

http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

20 cases of problems in the last 10 years.

How many people has ACORN registered to vote during that period?

Sorry, but I'm just not very concerned.
 

Sandhusker

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badaxemoo said:
Steve said:
Badaxemoo
There is absolutely no evidence of that.

just one of the 369,000 links for voter fraud acorn...

http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

20 cases of problems in the last 10 years.

How many people has ACORN registered to vote during that period?

Sorry, but I'm just not very concerned.

You're not concerned because the illegal activity is on your side. "Whatever means necessary". :mad:
 

badaxemoo

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Sandhusker said:
badaxemoo said:
Steve said:
Badaxemoo

just one of the 369,000 links for voter fraud acorn...

http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

20 cases of problems in the last 10 years.

How many people has ACORN registered to vote during that period?

Sorry, but I'm just not very concerned.

You're not concerned because the illegal activity is on your side. "Whatever means necessary". :mad:

That's actually not true.

I would saying the same thing if it was a Republican driven get-out-the-vote effort that ended up with a few improper registrations for every thousand proper ones.

I support having a photo identification at the polls and that would clearly not benefit Democrats.

But I think it is easier for you to believe that all liberals are ideologically homogenous so cling to that delusion if you must.
 
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