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EU: Taxpayer subsidized vacations?

hypocritexposer

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The European Union has declared travelling a human right, and is launching a scheme to subsidize vacations with taxpayers' dollars for those too poor to afford their own trips.

Antonio Tajani, the European Union commissioner for enterprise and industry, proposed a strategy that could cost European taxpayers hundreds of millions of euros a year, The Times of London reports.

"Travelling for tourism today is a right. The way we spend our holidays is a formidable indicator of our quality of life," Mr. Tajani told a group of ministers at The European Tourism Stakeholders Conference in Madrid on April 15. Mr. Tajani was appointed to his post by Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.

The plan -- just who gets to enjoy the travel package has yet to be determined -- would see taxpayers footing some of the vacation bill for seniors, youths between the ages of 18 and 25, disabled people, and families facing "difficult social, financial or personal" circumstances. The disabled and elderly can also be accompanied by one other person. The EU and its taxpayers are slated to fund 30% of the cost of these tours, which could range from youth exploring abandoned factories and power plants in Manchester to retirees taking discount trips to Madrid, all in the name of cultural appreciation.

"The commission is literally considering paying people to go on holiday," Mats Persson, of pro-reform think-tank Open Europe, told Britain's News of the World. "In this economic climate, it's astonishing that the EU wants to bribe people with cheap holidays."

Mr. Tajani said the program will be piloted until 2013, and then fully launched.

Intended to instill a sense of cultural pride in Europeans, Mr. Tajani's human-rights travel will also help bridge the continent's north-south divide and pad resorts' business in their off-season, the Times reports.

Northern Europeans will be encouraged to visit southern Europe, and vice versa. Mr. Tajani wants to ensure people's "right to be tourists" remains intact.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/travel/news/Vacationing+human+right+chief+says/2924330/story.html
 

Steve

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which could range from youth exploring abandoned factories and power plants in Manchester

going to Manchester is no vacation... but touring an abandoned factory?

this is about the stupidest vacation destination, I have ever heard of..

and that doesn't even count the taxpayer funded right part of the article..

below are posted a few "vacation" pictures..
an-abandoned-factory.jpg


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are liberals really that dumb?
 

Sandhusker

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Sounds absolutely rediculous to me. Those folks are completely losing reality. What a perfect model of what we DON'T want to be. Earth to Obama, Earth to Obama, come in Obama....
 

Steve

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Silver said:
Sounds pretty socialist doesn't it. Do you think it's more socialist than subsidized housing?

kinda a no little sin no big sin deal? ,,, is that like all sins are sins ?

when considering unalienable GOD given rights, one must decide between a right and a privilege.. and which one you want the government protecting..
 

Silver

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Steve said:
Silver said:
Sounds pretty socialist doesn't it. Do you think it's more socialist than subsidized housing?

kinda a no little sin no big sin deal? ,,, is that like all sins are sins ?

when considering unalienable GOD given rights, one must decide between a right and a privilege.. and which one you want the government protecting..

I'm just sayin.... as ridiculous as subsidized vacations sound to us, to many the subsidized housing all Americans can benefit from (and none of them complain about) appears very socialist. Personally, I think one is as wrong as the other, but that's a personal opinion :wink:
 

Steve

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Silver said:
Steve said:
Silver said:
Sounds pretty socialist doesn't it. Do you think it's more socialist than subsidized housing?

kinda a no little sin no big sin deal? ,,, is that like all sins are sins ?

when considering unalienable GOD given rights, one must decide between a right and a privilege.. and which one you want the government protecting..

I'm just sayin.... as ridiculous as subsidized vacations sound to us, to many the subsidized housing all Americans can benefit from (and none of them complain about) appears very socialist. Personally, I think one is as wrong as the other, but that's a personal opinion :wink:

both are privileges.. or benefits.. I can understand the need for adequate housing.. but when I see the abuse the properties and communities take that have subsidized housing.. It loses my support.
 

Silver

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Steve said:
Silver said:
Steve said:
kinda a no little sin no big sin deal? ,,, is that like all sins are sins ?

when considering unalienable GOD given rights, one must decide between a right and a privilege.. and which one you want the government protecting..

I'm just sayin.... as ridiculous as subsidized vacations sound to us, to many the subsidized housing all Americans can benefit from (and none of them complain about) appears very socialist. Personally, I think one is as wrong as the other, but that's a personal opinion :wink:

both are privileges.. or benefits.. I can understand the need for adequate housing.. but when I see the abuse the properties and communities take that have subsidized housing.. It loses my support.

If you have a mortgage your house is subsidized.
 

Mike

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Silver said:
Steve said:
Silver said:
I'm just sayin.... as ridiculous as subsidized vacations sound to us, to many the subsidized housing all Americans can benefit from (and none of them complain about) appears very socialist. Personally, I think one is as wrong as the other, but that's a personal opinion :wink:

both are privileges.. or benefits.. I can understand the need for adequate housing.. but when I see the abuse the properties and communities take that have subsidized housing.. It loses my support.

If you have a mortgage your house is subsidized.

Mine is not. And several more that I know of are not. :roll:
 

Silver

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Mike said:
Silver said:
Steve said:
both are privileges.. or benefits.. I can understand the need for adequate housing.. but when I see the abuse the properties and communities take that have subsidized housing.. It loses my support.

If you have a mortgage your house is subsidized.

Mine is not. And several more that I know of are not. :roll:

Oh. So you don't write off any part of your mortgage payment? Interest perhaps?
 

Larrry

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an interest deduction being a subsidy is the most ludicrous thing I've heard.

It is just a tool to keep the government from taking all your money. It is the citizens money, not the governments.
 

Steve

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Silver said:
Mike said:
Silver said:
If you have a mortgage your house is subsidized.

Mine is not. And several more that I know of are not. :roll:

Oh. So you don't write off any part of your mortgage payment? Interest perhaps?

in generally accepted accounting methods, interest is an expense.. used to reduce the amount of annual profit.. tax is on the profit,
 

Steve

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Bullhauler said:
Mike said:
Oh. So you don't write off any part of your mortgage payment? Interest perhaps?

I don't consider that even remotely resembling a "subsidy". :roll:


It is no different then calling the tax not paid on ethanol a subsidy.

I don't consider not taxing an item a subsidy either..

some states don't tax food, clothes or medicine is that a subsidy as well?
 

Silver

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A subsidy is a subsidy no matter how one arrives at it. What expense are you writing off against this subsidy? Essentially this is tax subsidy to mortgage-laden homeowners at the expense of debt-free tenants and other taxpayers. Period. It's not your birthright, it's a tax subsidy and there is no way around that. Sounds socialist to me.
 
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