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Explain this Oldtimer

Tam

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According to Oldtimer he would rather have a President like Willy Clinton that uses his power to use the White House intern pool as sex toys even when he lies about doing it SO here is a question for him.

Army General Jeffery Sinclair just made a plea deal in the sexual assault case against him and one of the charges he agreed to was ADULTERY which is a crime in the US military. He agreed he had sexual relations with the sexual assault accuser who was a Captain under him and with two other women officers. If he had been taken to trial and convicted he would have faced life in prison and he would have had to register as a sex offender. But he plead out to lesser charges to avoid trial. What his sentence will be is yet to be announced but he could face jail time or at least a discharge with a cut in rank and a million dollars less in pension. And remember this

CNN) -- Retired Army Gen. David Petraeus resigned from his post as CIA director last week after an FBI investigation revealed he had an extramarital affair. The investigation also prompted questions about whether his paramour had inappropriate access to classified information.

The scandal also has sparked an investigation into whether Marine Corps Gen. John Allen, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, sent inappropriate messages to a different woman, leading President Obama to put Allen's nomination to become NATO's supreme allied chief on hold.

The FBI uncovered the Petraeus affair while it investigated e-mails that his paramour, Paula Broadwell, allegedly sent to a Petraeus family friend, Jill Kelley, according to a U.S. official. Kelley, meanwhile, is the woman to whom Allen allegedly sent inappropriate e-mails, according to the Defense Department.

So why do these High Ranking Generals in the US military face anything when the President/ Commander and Chief of said US Military Willy Clinton faced NOTHING when he used the power of HIS OFFICE to use his interns as his PUBLIC SEX TOYS?

Shouldn't the Commander and Chief/ President of the US set an example for his military commanders and when he fails to do so be held to the same accountability?

How can the Dems and Hillary Clinton dare run her 2016 election campaign claiming the Republicans have a WAR ON WOMEN when her husband their hero WILLY was not held accountable for his White House actions against women and SHE LIED ABOUT IT TO PROTECT HIM AND HER POLITICAL CAREER?
 
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Anonymous

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First off- Tam- I don't condone anything Willy Clinton did as you try to make it sound... I never cared for the guy- and I was embarrassed by the spectacle that was made out of the affair...
But I do believe- and its shown by the popularity of the Clintons that people would rather see their President having an affair rather than leading them into 2 wars that last 10 years, and kills thousands of young American men and women- while blowing Trillions of $ into foreign coffers- and who during his watch brought on the second worst economical event in modern times - the Bush Bust...

Now the main reason the President wasn't charged is the President of the US is considered a civilian even tho he is commander and chief - and does not fall under military law..

Adultery laws were ruled unconstitutional back in the 70's... (I can remember arresting folks for "Illegal Cohabitation" usually on a complaint signed by a wife who caught her husband in bed with someone back when I first started in law enforcement)- but was glad to see that end...

What consenting adults do behind closed doors should not be a crime...

If the General is truly a sexual predator and thru his position/power made these women perform sex acts-- string him up on all charges...

If not and it truly was consensual sexual relationships-- then I'm opposed to any criminal charges.... And if that is part of military code and the General was charged then so should his consenting female military officer partners...
 

Tam

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
First off- Tam- I don't condone anything Willy Clinton did as you try to make it sound... I never cared for the guy- and I was embarrassed by the spectacle that was made out of the affair...
But I do believe- and its shown by the popularity of the Clintons that people would rather see their President having an affair rather than leading them into 2 wars that last 10 years, and kills thousands of young American men and women- while blowing Trillions of $ into foreign coffers- and who during his watch brought on the second worst economical event in modern times - the Bush Bust...

Now the main reason the President wasn't charged is the President of the US is considered a civilian even tho he is commander and chief - and does not fall under military law..

Adultery laws were ruled unconstitutional back in the 70's... (I can remember arresting folks for "Illegal Cohabitation" usually on a complaint signed by a wife who caught her husband in bed with someone back when I first started in law enforcement)- but was glad to see that end...

What consenting adults do behind closed doors should not be a crime...

If the General is truly a sexual predator and thru his position/power made these women perform sex acts-- string him up on all charges...

If not and it truly was consensual sexual relationships-- then I'm opposed to any criminal charges.... And if that is part of military code and the General was charged then so should his consenting female military officer partners...

To bad those that adore the Clintons are to stupid to realize the Liberal Bias Media is lying to them about what the Clinton's supported when it came to the War Bush was blamed for? To bad they have not read the quotes from both Slick Willy and Hillary about Saddam and did a little research into what Hillary voted for when she was a Senator. But then I doubt any of them care that she vote for the war and supported the FUNDING OF IT as I doubt they care the Benghazi deaths were PREVENTABLE if Hillary had done her Sec of State job. All they care about is the FREE STUFF Democrats hand out to buy their votes. :roll:
 

Tam

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Oh and the President / COMMANDER AND CHIEF of the military should be setting an example for not just the Military but for all Americans. What does Willy's sick Sex acts with White House interns and accusations of rape and Obama openly admitting to illegal drug use tell the voters of the US if they see them walking away without paying the price for their illegal acts?
 

Tam

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BTW Oldtimer what do you think of the Dems claiming the Republicans have a WAR ON WOMEN when the Obama's routinely invite rappers that make their millions off music that promotes violence towards women to the White House, the Peoples House that they Occupy?
 

loomixguy

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Old ********* doesn't care what consenting adults to behind closed doors....unless they are Republicans. He can't say enough bad about Bush, but he has no problem voting for and staunchly defending his Dear Leader who acquiesces to any two bit Muslim dictator and proudly presents his oiled up backside to Putin.
Weakest. President. Ever.
Talk about a cult member following in lock step with the Regime.
 

Bullhauler

Well-known member
Tam said:
BTW Oldtimer what do you think of the Dems claiming the Republicans have a WAR ON WOMEN when the Obama's routinely invite rappers that make their millions off music that promotes violence towards women to the White House, the Peoples House that they Occupy?

I guess you never heard the Johnny Cash song "Cocaine Blues". He was a guest at the white house too.
 

Mike

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Bullhauler said:
Tam said:
BTW Oldtimer what do you think of the Dems claiming the Republicans have a WAR ON WOMEN when the Obama's routinely invite rappers that make their millions off music that promotes violence towards women to the White House, the Peoples House that they Occupy?

I guess you never heard the Johnny Cash song "Cocaine Blues". He was a guest at the white house too.

But, but,but, Johnny Cash wasn't promoting or glorifying "Cocaine" in that song though. Just the opposite.

Last two verses:
In about five minutes in walked a man
Holding the verdict in his right hand
The verdict read in the first degree
I hollered Lordy Lordy have mercy on me

The judge he smiled as he picked up his pen
Ninety nine years in the Folsom pen
Ninety nine years underneath that ground
I can't forget the day I shot my woman down
Come on you hawks and listen unto me
Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be
 

Tam

Well-known member
Mike said:
Bullhauler said:
Tam said:
BTW Oldtimer what do you think of the Dems claiming the Republicans have a WAR ON WOMEN when the Obama's routinely invite rappers that make their millions off music that promotes violence towards women to the White House, the Peoples House that they Occupy?

I guess you never heard the Johnny Cash song "Cocaine Blues". He was a guest at the white house too.

But, but,but, Johnny Cash wasn't promoting or glorifying "Cocaine" in that song though. Just the opposite.

Last two verses:
In about five minutes in walked a man
Holding the verdict in his right hand
The verdict read in the first degree
I hollered Lordy Lordy have mercy on me

The judge he smiled as he picked up his pen
Ninety nine years in the Folsom pen
Ninety nine years underneath that ground
I can't forget the day I shot my woman down
Come on you hawks and listen unto me
Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be

First question should be did the President that invited JC to the White House run on the idea there is a Republican WAR ON WOMEN like Obama?

Then let us compare JC's lyrics to some of Obama's White House Guests lyrics

[Jay-Z]
Uhh, uh uh uh
It's big pimpin baby..
It's big pimpin, spendin G's
Feel me.. uh-huh uhh, uh-huh..
Ge-ge-geyeah, geyeah
Ge-ge-geyeah, geyeah..

You know I - thug em, **** em, love em, leave em
Cause I don't fuckin need em
Take em out the hood, keep em lookin good
But I don't fuckin feed em
First time they fuss I'm breezin
Talkin bout, "What's the reasons?"
I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch
Better trust than believe em
In the cut where I keep em
til I need a nut, til I need to beat the guts
Then it's, beep beep and I'm pickin em up
Let em play with the dick in the truck
Many chicks wanna put Jigga fist in cuffs
Divorce him and split his bucks
Just because you got good head, I'ma break bread
so you can be livin it up? **** I..
parts with nothin, y'all be frontin
Me give my heart to a woman?
Not for nothin, never happen
I'll be forever mackin
Heart cold as assassins, I got no passion
I got no patience
And I hate waitin..
Hoe get yo' ass in
And let's RI-I-I-I-I-IDE.. check em out now
RI-I-I-I-I-IDE, yeah
And let's RI-I-I-I-I-IDE.. check em out now
RI-I-I-I-I-IDE, yeah

:roll:
 

Bullhauler

Well-known member
Mike said:
Bullhauler said:
Tam said:
BTW Oldtimer what do you think of the Dems claiming the Republicans have a WAR ON WOMEN when the Obama's routinely invite rappers that make their millions off music that promotes violence towards women to the White House, the Peoples House that they Occupy?

I guess you never heard the Johnny Cash song "Cocaine Blues". He was a guest at the white house too.

But, but,but, Johnny Cash wasn't promoting or glorifying "Cocaine" in that song though. Just the opposite.

Last two verses:
In about five minutes in walked a man
Holding the verdict in his right hand
The verdict read in the first degree
I hollered Lordy Lordy have mercy on me

The judge he smiled as he picked up his pen
Ninety nine years in the Folsom pen
Ninety nine years underneath that ground
I can't forget the day I shot my woman down
Come on you hawks and listen unto me
Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be


You changed the lyrics. It goes "I can't forget the day I shot that bad bitch down" . Now if I was as simple minded as you and your ilk I would call you a liar from here to eternity. Of course maybe them bible banging southern radio stations changed the lyrics on you.
 

Mike

Well-known member
I've changed nothing, Einstein. :lol:

http://www.lyrics007.com/Johnny%20Cash%20Lyrics/Cocaine%20Blues%20Lyrics.html
 

Tam

Well-known member
Bullhauler said:
Mike said:
Bullhauler said:
I guess you never heard the Johnny Cash song "Cocaine Blues". He was a guest at the white house too.

But, but,but, Johnny Cash wasn't promoting or glorifying "Cocaine" in that song though. Just the opposite.

Last two verses:
In about five minutes in walked a man
Holding the verdict in his right hand
The verdict read in the first degree
I hollered Lordy Lordy have mercy on me

The judge he smiled as he picked up his pen
Ninety nine years in the Folsom pen
Ninety nine years underneath that ground
I can't forget the day I shot my woman down
Come on you hawks and listen unto me
Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be


You changed the lyrics. It goes "I can't forget the day I shot that bad bad word down" . Now if I was as simple minded as you and your ilk I would call you a liar from here to eternity. Of course maybe them bible banging southern radio stations changed the lyrics on you.

Bullhauler did the President that invited Johnny Cash to the White House, and his party run their election campaigns on the idea that their Opponents had a WAR ON WOMEN?

If not then your distraction is just that a DISTRACTION from the fact Obama and the Dems are telling people that the Republicans have a war on Women when they are taking large sums of campaign donations from people that treat women as a piece of meat to be chewed up and spit out, as proven in the lyrics from Jay Z a strong supporter of Obama and a frequent flyer in the White House Social scene. Have you seen Jay Z's wife Beyoncé latest video? She is adored by the young girls and is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is promoting unchecked sex in her videos. But then what should anyone expect from the PARTY OF NO MORALS. :roll:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Welcome back BULL humper,,, even if you do not come back loaded with facts....
How many past musicians to the white house advocated violence towards women, and treat them like pieces of meat before obama??Oh im sorry,, forgot you only,, like a couple of others on here look to RAPE and PILLAGE women... Go back to bull humping,,, you do that so well :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
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