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'Fast and Furious' Bombshell Explodes

Faster horses

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According to a high-ranking Mexican drug cartel operative, who is currently in U.S. custody, there are some things that the American people are not being told about Fast and Furious. We obviously knew something was not being told behind the scenes because of Barack Obama issuing executive privilege and Holder being in contempt of Congress for failing to comply. But this makes even the sleepiest of people perk up their ears and pay attention.

Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla, known as the Sinaloa Cartel’s “logistics coordinator,” has brought allegations that the gunwalking operation had nothing to do with tracking guns and everything to do with supplying them. According to Zambada-Niebla it was part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. and Mexico’s Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.


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Tam

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If the Dems think they can force Romney into openning his records by making claims about him then why isn't one of these Super Pacs forcing Obama to open the Fast and Furious records. If it is POSSIBLE that Romney didn't pay taxes it is also VERY POSSIBLE that Obama knew his AG was involved in illegal gun running to push gun control in the US. It is time to start playing hardball with these lieing slime balls in the Democrat party. They could care less about truth and doing the right thing or the Dems would want to know exactly what happen and WHO KNEW. The Terry family and Americans in general deserve to know if the DOJ, AG and the POTUS knew what was going on in the murderous government plan BEFORE THE ELECTION so they know just who they are supporting in that polling booth. :mad:
 

Steve

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ATF now points finger back at DOJ...

In Eban's telling, ATF agents weren't deliberately allowing guns to be walked, but rather were subject to federal prosecutors who told them at every turn that they lacked probable cause to make arrests and interdict the weapons, citing the weak gun laws they were working under:

It was nearly impossible in Arizona to bring a case against a straw purchaser. The federal prosecutors there did not consider the purchase of a huge volume of guns, or their handoff to a third party, sufficient evidence to seize them. A buyer who certified that the guns were for himself, then handed them off minutes later, hadn't necessarily lied and was free to change his mind. Even if a suspect bought 10 guns that were recovered days later at a Mexican crime scene, this didn't mean the initial purchase had been illegal. To these prosecutors, the pattern proved little. Instead, agents needed to link specific evidence of intent to commit a crime to each gun they wanted to seize.

None of the ATF agents doubted that the Fast and Furious guns were being purchased to commit crimes in Mexico. But that was nearly impossible to prove to prosecutors' satisfaction. And agents could not seize guns or arrest suspects after being directed not to do so by a prosecutor.

According to Eban, the claim that Fast and Furious involved gunwalking "starts with a grudge" between Voth and John Dodson, the lead ATF whistleblower in the case. She reports that Dodson and two other whistleblowers in the case, Olindo "Lee" Casa and Lawrence Alt, "seemed to chafe at ATF rules and procedures":

But CBS didn't quote the portions of Voth's e-mail that described how the group was divided by "petty arguing" and "adolescent behavior.

Eban cites a contemporaneous email from David Voth, the leader of the ATF unit that ran Fast and Furious, in which he expressed his "barely suppressed rage" at the idea that following the dictates of prosecutors could be considered "letting these guns walk" pointing out that "Without Probable Cause and concurrence from the USAO [U.S. Attorney's Office] it is highway robbery if we take someone's property."

as the left spin doctors try to exonerate the ATF,.. they actually end up blaming DOJ and making the ATF look worse..

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/06/27/will-fox-report-on-fortune-bombshell-that-fast/175868[/quote]
 
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