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Father of son killed, not contacted before seeing it on tv

Faster horses

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Last month, Ray Smith was hoping to get together with his son, Sean, whom he had not seen for 15 years. But, it became devastatingly apparent, after seeing a story on CNN about the four Americans killed in Libya, that he would never see his son alive again. “I seen all these coffins come off the plane,” Smith recalled. “Four of them. Then I saw his picture in the corner. They mentioned Sean Smith was one of those killed.”

Smith received this gut-wrenching news via television, prior to receiving a call, a form letter and a flag from Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy. But, the call did little to assuage Smith. Sean Smith, 34, was killed during the Sept. 11 attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, along with Ambassador Chris Stevens and ex-Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

Outraged by hearing about Sean’s death on TV, he contacted his congressman, Rep. C.W. “Bill” Young (R-FL). “He blew up when he saw that,” the congressman said. “I went to [Secretary of State] Hillary Clinton to see if she could talk to him about his son. She and his son were friends.”

According to Young, Clinton had Patrick Kennedy call Smith. “I got a call from Patrick Kennedy about three weeks ago,” Smith said. “We didn’t talk too long, about two or three minutes.”

A little about Sean Smith:

Sean Smith (c. 1978[1] – September 11, 2012) was an Information Management Officer with the United States Foreign Service.

Sean Smith was an only child, and he grew up in the Clairemont neighborhood of San Diego, California. He graduated from Mission Bay High School in 1995. He enlisted in the U.S. Air Force in July 1995, and he served as a Ground Radio Maintenance (2E) specialist. Smith served in the Air Force for six years, and he was promoted to Staff Sergeant in August 2000. He completed his military service in 2002. As a Foreign Service employee, Smith lived in The Hague, Netherlands with his wife Heather, and children Samantha and Nathan.[3][4] – Wikipedia

Commenting on his son’s tragic death, Ray Smith said: “I want answers. I want to know how he died. I want people brought to justice who did this to him.”


http://redpillreport.net/2012/10/29/father-of-benghazi-victim-learned-of-sons-death-on-cnn-before-being-contacted-by-state-dept/
 

jigs

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the people he wants brought to justice for killing his son reside or work at 1600 Penn. Ave. Washington DC.


should we get a citizens arrest warrant and go arrest that piece of trash Obama, and lock his ass up?
 

Faster horses

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In reading the comments after some of the news stories, the libs are saying that Obama wanted positive identification before contacting the families.
And as far as giving the order to stand down, he did that because there would have been many more killed had anything been done to help the people there. One said there were 12,000 people at that compound. This
is the first time I had heard anything about that and they also are saying the base commander is who gave the order to stand down. Anyone heard that before?
They give him a pass on EVERYTHING!! Unbelievable.
 

loomixguy

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12,000 folks IN the compound? (I can't believe that, unless the compound was the size of the Mall of America, or bigger.)

Or 12,000 ATTACKING the compound?

An AC 130 Spector gunship could disburse a crowd of 12,000 hostiles PDQ. A second pass may not even be necessary.

The handling of this has been a total disgrace, and this administration is as counterfeit as they come.
 

Tam

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I heard the other day the only thing the terrorists do fear are the air strikes. They feel that they can handle anything on the ground but the fighter jets and drones they know they can't beat. If Obama would have given the orders to fly over and HIT THE LASER TARGETED AREA the rest would have disappeared into the sand. He could have saved some lives but the coward sat back for hours and did nothing out of fear that his re-election bid would be hurt. I hope and pray that HIS INACTIONS In Benghazi costs him his second term and hopefully a prison term for treason. It is his job to be Commandor and Chief and he has been MIA in this TERRORIST ATTACK.
He brags about his record of taking out terrorists with his targeted drone attacks so I have to ask where were the drones when it came to saving these American lives? They had drones setting over top the Consulate and Annex sending real time video back so they could watch what was going on yet they couldn't send one in loaded and ready to protect the poor guys left there to be slaughtered :mad:

And Panetta should be ashamed of himself claiming you don't send troops into harms way when you don't know what you are facing. First of all they were watching in real time what they were sending them into. Second, anytime you send a soldier out in a war ridden country that is covered with suicide bombers and RPG carrying terrorists you are sending them into harms way. If everyone lived under Panetta's rules firefighters would not enter burning buildings and Cops would not enter a home where there is a report of Domestic abuse. Third, if Panetta really thinks that then the US is doomed by a weak and ineffective US Military. It would be best for the US if they pulled all their troops home as the old saying of "leave no man behind" just went out the Department of Defences's door. BTW Obama lied about the fact that when Americans are in need they step up and do what has to be done to help out as his Department of Defense will not send anyone in if they are not sure of the outcome. Under Obama It is you are on your own boys.

I'm beginning to realize what Obama thought DON'T ASK DON'T TELL meant when it came to the military.

Don't Ask us to send Help and We wouldn't tell anyone you asked and we denied your requests. :mad: :mad:
 

Faster horses

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I heard that same thing, Tam. That all Obama had to do was fly a plane overhead and those terrorists would have fled for their lives. There just is
more to this story...and Obama is sitting on it in hopes of being re-elected.

BTW, have you heard anything about the base commander giving the order to Stand Down? I don't believe that for one minute because Obama always blames someone else, so it would have been easy to throw that base commander under the bus. Was there a base commander even there? I never heard a word about it!!
 

Steve

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Obama's concern may have been for the 12,000 Libyans who lived near the compounds.. but it wasn't for those inside the consulate and annex

approximately 32 Americans at the annex back to the airport for evacuation


in this situation

hi first propriety is to protect the US

having a concern for collateral damage.. is commendable if he actually did something...
 

Tam

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Faster horses said:
In reading the comments after some of the news stories, the libs are saying that Obama wanted positive identification before contacting the families.
And as far as giving the order to stand down, he did that because there would have been many more killed had anything been done to help the people there. One said there were 12,000 people at that compound. This
is the first time I had heard anything about that and they also are saying the base commander is who gave the order to stand down. Anyone heard that before?
They give him a pass on EVERYTHING!! Unbelievable.

The reports not coming from the White House say that there were lasers targeting the attackers so if Obama had sent help they could have hit the targeted area and took out the terrorists. But he sat back and did nothing. Which in turn made it necessary to make up a story to cover his azz. So out comes the, well there would have been far more dead if we would have go in, story and Panetta's you don't send troops into harms way story. Like I said before if everyone lived under these rules then Fightfirers will never enter a burning building to rescue anyone in fear of them becoming a victim too. A cop will never again enter a home to save a domestic abuse victim in fear of being shot by the abuser.

BTW have you seen the video that has been released of the attack? It plays all the time, every news clip about the attack shows the same clip. So ask yourself if the you can see the Consulate burning in the Videos and only a few terrorists are seen parading with their guns in hand around, where were the other 11,990 that were supposedly there according to the Obama defenders? The Video proves there was no big mob, testimony about REAL TIME PHONE CALLS prove there was no big mob. So again the left is denying the truth that is staring them in the face as they do not want to believe their hero allowed AMERICANS TO DIE WHILE HE STOOD BY AND DID NOTHING TO HELP THEM. Nobody wants to believe that the Commandor and Chief of the Military, that once (PRE OBAMA ) believes you don't leave anyone behind even if it means risking your live to safe the life of another, would stand by WATCHING VIA REAL TIME VIDEO while Americans are dieing, and DO NOTHING. But the more reports you hear the more it is looking that is EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

Another thing Everyone keeps bring up Hillary's campaign reference to a three o'clock phone call that Obama would get and not answer due to the hour. Well sorry this all started in the late afternoon US time while he was wide awake, he had his advisors there watching with him and he still did nothing. THE GUY IS AN INEXPERIENCED, INCOMPETENT, NARSISSISTIC JUNIOR SENATOR THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PUT IN THE POSTION HE IS IN AND WAS ONLY PUT THERE DUE TO HIS SKIN COLORED. :mad:
 

Tam

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Steve said:
Obama's concern may have been for the 12,000 Libyans who lived near the compounds.. but it wasn't for those inside the consulate and annex

approximately 32 Americans at the annex back to the airport for evacuation


in this situation

hi first propriety is to protect the US

having a concern for collateral damage.. is commendable if he actually did something...

Has Obama ever been concerned about collateral damage when he has sent in a TARGETED DRONE ATTACK? He prides himself on his record of taking out the enemy, and according to the left, with no large amount of collateral damage to speak of due to his use of the drones.

So what has changed other than the fact he would have been doing it to protect American lives that were under attack? If the reports are right on the terrorists fears of air strikes all he had to do is send in a couple black hawks or fighter jets and they would have disappeared into the holes they crawled out of but NO he sat by and WATCHED AMERICANS DIE. The guy is a coward and needs to be tossed out of a seat that is way to big for him to fill. :mad:
 

Tam

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Faster horses said:
I heard that same thing, Tam. That all Obama had to do was fly a plane overhead and those terrorists would have fled for their lives. There just is
more to this story...and Obama is sitting on it in hopes of being re-elected.

BTW, have you heard anything about the base commander giving the order to Stand Down? I don't believe that for one minute because Obama always blames someone else, so it would have been easy to throw that base commander under the bus. Was there a base commander even there? I never heard a word about it!!

Obama always finds a way to take credit for others actions but when things go wrong he also finds ways to blame someone or something. The problem lies in the fact the MSM and his followers are blind to what is going on and are willing to defend him no matter what he does. If they can defend him for the out and out lies about Benghazi then there is NO HOPE FOR THEM. They are sick and one can only hope they get help before he turns the US into a Dictarorship. :mad:
 
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Last month, Ray Smith was hoping to get together with his son, Sean, whom he had not seen for 15 years. But, it became devastatingly apparent, after seeing a story on CNN about the four Americans killed in Libya, that he would never see his son alive again. “I seen all these coffins come off the plane,” Smith recalled. “Four of them. Then I saw his picture in the corner. They mentioned Sean Smith was one of those killed.”


Real close family- and now he's whining and beeching..... :roll:

I wonder with such a close family relationship if dear old Daddy was even listed anywhere as a relative... :???:
 

gmacbeef

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THE GUY IS AN INEXPERIENCED, INCOMPETENT, NARSISSISTIC JUNIOR SENATOR THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PUT IN THE POSTION HE IS IN AND WAS ONLY PUT THERE DUE TO HIS SKIN COLORED. Mad

This sentence says it all,wouldn't you agree oldtimer ? :???:
 

Larrry

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Oldtimer said:
Last month, Ray Smith was hoping to get together with his son, Sean, whom he had not seen for 15 years. But, it became devastatingly apparent, after seeing a story on CNN about the four Americans killed in Libya, that he would never see his son alive again. “I seen all these coffins come off the plane,” Smith recalled. “Four of them. Then I saw his picture in the corner. They mentioned Sean Smith was one of those killed.”


Real close family- and now he's whining and beeching..... :roll:

I wonder with such a close family relationship if dear old Daddy was even listed anywhere as a relative... :???:

No one knows the circumstances, so I find it hard to pass judgement. Maybe there was a problem, it doesn't mean he wasn't his father. I have seen some falmies that don't see each other for stretches at a time for whatever the reason. Maybe they were alienated, we don't know. I refuse to pass judgement against a father who lost his son.
 
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Larrry said:
Oldtimer said:
Last month, Ray Smith was hoping to get together with his son, Sean, whom he had not seen for 15 years. But, it became devastatingly apparent, after seeing a story on CNN about the four Americans killed in Libya, that he would never see his son alive again. “I seen all these coffins come off the plane,” Smith recalled. “Four of them. Then I saw his picture in the corner. They mentioned Sean Smith was one of those killed.”


Real close family- and now he's whining and beeching..... :roll:

I wonder with such a close family relationship if dear old Daddy was even listed anywhere as a relative... :???:

No one knows the circumstances, so I find it hard to pass judgement. Maybe there was a problem, it doesn't mean he wasn't his father. I have seen some falmies that don't see each other for stretches at a time for whatever the reason. Maybe they were alienated, we don't know. I refuse to pass judgement against a father who lost his son.

And I refuse to give much sympathy or any credence to a claim made by a father that either didn't have the time to or want to to see his son in 15 years--- or else was so alienated from the family that the son wanted nothing to do with him (which may include any death notification)...
 

Larrry

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Oldtimer said:
Larrry said:
Oldtimer said:
Real close family- and now he's whining and beeching..... :roll:

I wonder with such a close family relationship if dear old Daddy was even listed anywhere as a relative... :???:

No one knows the circumstances, so I find it hard to pass judgement. Maybe there was a problem, it doesn't mean he wasn't his father. I have seen some falmies that don't see each other for stretches at a time for whatever the reason. Maybe they were alienated, we don't know. I refuse to pass judgement against a father who lost his son.

And I refuse to give much sympathy or any credence to a claim made by a father that either didn't have the time to or want to to see his son in 15 years--- or else was so alienated from the family that the son wanted nothing to do with him (which may include any death notification)...

And you don't know for sure what the relationship was. It is possible he might not have seen him but talked to him. There are parents out there that love their kids but for OTHER family circumstances they don't see them. I would think that any man with any kind of compassion wouldn't so hastily condemn the guy over a media report. After all we all know how reliable and unbiased the media is. After all we have to make obama look good since he can't do it himself.
 

TSR

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Oldtimer said:
Last month, Ray Smith was hoping to get together with his son, Sean, whom he had not seen for 15 years. But, it became devastatingly apparent, after seeing a story on CNN about the four Americans killed in Libya, that he would never see his son alive again. “I seen all these coffins come off the plane,” Smith recalled. “Four of them. Then I saw his picture in the corner. They mentioned Sean Smith was one of those killed.”


Real close family- and now he's whining and beeching..... :roll:

I wonder with such a close family relationship if dear old Daddy was even listed anywhere as a relative... :???:

I'm glad who ever reported this put that timetable in there. I agree, might be some underlying motive here. I know I would not go without seeing any of my kids for 15 yrs. regardless. JMHO
 

Larrry

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TSR said:
Oldtimer said:
Last month, Ray Smith was hoping to get together with his son, Sean, whom he had not seen for 15 years. But, it became devastatingly apparent, after seeing a story on CNN about the four Americans killed in Libya, that he would never see his son alive again. “I seen all these coffins come off the plane,” Smith recalled. “Four of them. Then I saw his picture in the corner. They mentioned Sean Smith was one of those killed.”


Real close family- and now he's whining and beeching..... :roll:

I wonder with such a close family relationship if dear old Daddy was even listed anywhere as a relative... :???:

I'm glad who ever reported this put that timetable in there. I agree, might be some underlying motive here. I know I would not go without seeing any of my kids for 15 yrs. regardless. JMHO

So why did this father not see his son for 15 years.



The most amazing thing aboutr this story is that some have the nerve to condemn the father but nary a word on obama letting four Americans die because he sat on his azz.
Does that make you proud that he let four Americans die
 
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