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FBI interviewed dead bomber in 2011...

hypocritexposer

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...he was on the radar of foreign governments.

Should have waterboarded him and they might have gotten some intelligence that would have saved those killed in Boston., right OT?
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
...he was on the radar of foreign governments.

Should have waterboarded him and they might have gotten some intelligence that would have saved those killed in Boston., right OT?

How about at least watching him and his activities..

you don't have to be a profiler to see that he didn't fit in,.. was bitter, and after returning to the US from dang-it-astan seems to be right up on the radical bandstand..

a terrorist youtube playlist.. should have been a clue..

Older bombing suspect ‘was up to no good,’ cousin says

A YouTube account with Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s name includes a playlist that features a video dedicated to the prophecy of the Black Banners of Khurasan, which is apparently embraced by Islamic extremist, including Al Qaeda.



Until this month. Allan, who is currently traveling in Thailand, got an e-mail within the past week saying Tsarnaev showed up at the gym acting rude and disrespectful, using other people’s equipment, walking on the mats with his shoes.

“It was a clear indication that something was up,” Allan said, noting that Tsarnaev hadn’t even been to his gym before the incident in years. “He was becoming a complete [expletive].

“It was completely out of place for him,” said Allan, who was also contacted by the FBI about Tamerlan.
 

kolanuraven

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The FBI can't and does not have the man power to follow up on EVERY lead it gets as it gets 1,000's day.

Plus , Russia didn't give them the asked for secondary information.




The same could be said for the poster here, jigs, as he was ' interviewed' by The Men in Black for his ' statements' regarding the health status of the President....do you think he should be followed to his last day on earth?
 

kolanuraven

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Steve said:
hypocritexposer said:
...he was on the radar of foreign governments.

Should have waterboarded him and they might have gotten some intelligence that would have saved those killed in Boston., right OT?

How about at least watching him and his activities..

you don't have to be a profiler to see that he didn't fit in,.. was bitter, and after returning to the US from dang-it-astan seems to be right up on the radical bandstand..

a terrorist youtube playlist.. should have been a clue..

Older bombing suspect ‘was up to no good,’ cousin says

A YouTube account with Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s name includes a playlist that features a video dedicated to the prophecy of the Black Banners of Khurasan, which is apparently embraced by Islamic extremist, including Al Qaeda.



Until this month. Allan, who is currently traveling in Thailand, got an e-mail within the past week saying Tsarnaev showed up at the gym acting rude and disrespectful, using other people’s equipment, walking on the mats with his shoes.

“It was a clear indication that something was up,” Allan said, noting that Tsarnaev hadn’t even been to his gym before the incident in years. “He was becoming a complete [expletive].

“It was completely out of place for him,” said Allan, who was also contacted by the FBI about Tamerlan.


Look at all the liberal BS in this post by Steve...


" a cousin" states............??????????

"he got an email"...............Must be the truth...ask Faster Horses

" acting rude and disrespectful"............subjective hear say
 

hopalong

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would think you would learn someday kolo=jingo=lulu=allie...
The men in black did not visit jigs for any statement regarding the president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do your hime work........


earth to kolo=jingo=lulu=allie take your hormone meds and back away from anything sharp
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
...he was on the radar of foreign governments.

Should have waterboarded him and they might have gotten some intelligence that would have saved those killed in Boston., right OT?

Sure-Bush tore up the Geneva Convention and all military rules with waterboarding- now you propose we should tear up the Constitution too and waterboard US citizens? :???: :roll:

Yep- should probably have done the same with Jigs when they got the reports on the death threats he made....At least locked him up for a year or two and softened him up a little :roll: :wink: :p

The sad thing is they have to spend so much time keeping up files and following foreign wingnut subversives and anarchists like you and some of the others on this site...Besides the US citizen wingnuts who make threats and/or openly admit to belonging to extremist anarchist groups like the KKK--- that a lot of the real dangers fly below the radar...
The truth is- unless you want a country where you have no rights and live in total lockdown (and then Osama and the terrorist have won) - these attacks can never be totally stopped....

But I wonder how many of you would be howling if you knew the files and info the FBI had on each of you :???: :p :lol: :lol:
 

Mike

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The truth is- unless you want a country where you have no rights and live in total lockdown (and then Osama and the terrorist have won)

Example: Watertown, Massachusetts

Reason: Scared of a wounded, unarmed 19 year old kid. :roll:
 
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Mike said:
The truth is- unless you want a country where you have no rights and live in total lockdown (and then Osama and the terrorist have won)

Example: Watertown, Massachusetts

Reason: Scared of a wounded, unarmed 19 year old kid. :roll:

Oh yeah- Mr. Tough Guy :roll: now in your task to do anything to tear down anything government and law enforcement this is a poor defenseless "wounded, unarmed 19 year old kid"....
After he and his brother killed 5 people- wounded hundreds of others including police with bombs, grenades, and firearms--- and you feel sorry for him :???: .... And you make fun of the police taking every precaution in their duty to serve and protect :???:
You are the one that makes me sick... Put your white hood and sheets back on! :( :( :(
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Sure-Bush tore up the Geneva Convention and all military rules with waterboarding- now you propose we should tear up the Constitution too and waterboard US citizens? :???: :roll:

I'm pretty sure if you asked those Bush water boarded if they would prefer Obama's DRONE treatment over being water boarded they would agree to have water poured on them Oldtimer. But hey at least Obama is not torturing them right but then he is also not gathering valuable intell to stop the next terrorist attack either is he Oldtimer. :roll:
 

Steve

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.Besides the US citizen wingnuts who make threats and/or openly admit to belonging to extremist anarchist groups like the KKK--- that a lot of the real dangers fly below the radar...

it is sad,.. that they.. (FED goverment law enforcement) spend so much time tracking wingnuts..

most of whom are no threat...

but why do they track citizens who are born here and not immigrants with known connections..

like I said... a blind person could have seen this coming...

how much time did you spend 'watching so called rightwingnuts and reporting on rightwingnuts?

and more importantly how many of them that you 'watched' were convicted of a bombing, murdering a police officer.. or blowing the legs off of innocent people?

I would say the answer is probably none.. yet you still watched them...
 

Tam

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kolanuraven said:
The FBI can't and does not have the man power to follow up on EVERY lead it gets as it gets 1,000's day.

Plus , Russia didn't give them the asked for secondary information.

Would you care to explain why the FBI that interviewed the older brother did not tell the Boston PD that they had a reported possible terrorist living in their city so they could keep their eyes on him?

Care to explain why the FBI that interviewed the reported terrorist didn't recognize him once they had the videos that they released to the Public to get a ID on the guy?

The FBI have some explaining to do on their handling of this Russian tip of a terrorist living within the great Boston area, considering the social media wed site the guy had that had more than enough evident to warrant a second SERIOUS LOOK into the guy.
 
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Steve said:
.Besides the US citizen wingnuts who make threats and/or openly admit to belonging to extremist anarchist groups like the KKK--- that a lot of the real dangers fly below the radar...

it is sad,.. that they.. (FED goverment law enforcement) spend so much time tracking wingnuts..

most of whom are no threat...


but why do they track citizens who are born here and not immigrants with known connections..

like I said... a blind person could have seen this coming...

how much time did you spend 'watching so called rightwingnuts and reporting on rightwingnuts?

and more importantly how many of them that you 'watched' were convicted of a bombing, murdering a police officer.. or blowing the legs off of innocent people?

I would say the answer is probably none.. yet you still watched them...

The majority of those we dealt with in our area for years were rightwingernuts-- the Posse Comitatus, the anti- tax folks like Red Beckman, the Aryan Nation, and the Freemen... And these groups were involved in Millions $ in crimes against the government, armed robberies, and the killing of both civilians and law enforcement....
These rightwingernut groups at times took up huge amounts of law enforcement time and funds-- both with undercover operations and open confrontation- which was most apparent with the Freemen barricaded standoff/arrests...


So are you saying immigrant/naturalized citizens should have less rights than ones born here?
Should the Federal authorities just investigate threats against white citizens?... Or white Republican citizens? Should they not investigate threats against Muslim citizens? Or Black citizens?
Isn't a threat against any citizen a threat against the country?
How do you tell if the Jigs' or the Mikes of the world are legitimate threats- especially when they spend so much time openly making threats and showing such deep hatetred and fear for some of these types of people- without investigating them?


Sen. Graham: FBI may need more powers to track terror suspects

By Jordy Yager - 04/22/13 11:20 AM ET





Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Monday called for Congress to examine the laws governing the FBI’s ability to track Muslim extremist activity within the United States to give the agency more investigative teeth.

“We need to revisit our laws,” said Graham in an interview Monday.


Graham said he spoke with the FBI recently about its 2011 probe of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, and is assured that agents did not fail to pick up on key signs that he was a potential terror threat.

Tsarnaev, 26, who was killed in a police shootout Friday, is suspected of planning the Boston Marathon bombing with his younger brother Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who is in police custody.

But the lawmaker warned that the FBI may need more powers to probe suspected individuals and called on Congress to see whether laws need to be updated.
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Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said on Monday that it was too early to tell whether the FBI dropped the ball by not investigating Tamerlan Tsarnaev more thoroughly, but that the House Judiciary, Intelligence, and Homeland Security committees would all be probing the matter.

“All of which will play some role here in determining whether the FBI dropped the ball or didn't drop the ball,” said Boehner on Fox, speaking about the committees.

Boehner acknowledged the sensitive nature of the FBI’s job in protecting the civil liberties of Americans while investigating possible terrorist-related activity.

“There's a fine line,” he said. “If you're in America, and you have the legal status, you're protected by American rights.”

“It's a fine line that they have to walk, and we're going to have to make a determination how well they walk that line.”


While much of Tsarnaev’s motivation for the attack is still unknown, Graham said Congress should re-examine the FBI’s investigative authority in light of early evidence that appears to indicate the elder brother was inspired by radical Islamic propaganda.

“The sooner we realize that we're at a war with radical Islam and come up with systems to defend ourselves, the better off we'll be,” said Graham. “I don't want a police state, but I want a nation where the police can protect us.”

“They're trying to recruit American citizens. This idea that if you can find an American to help kill us, they're somehow having legal safe haven [will protect them], is ridiculous.”


Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/295265-sen-graham-fbi-may-need-more-powers-to-track-terror-suspects#ixzz2RDfYAJVF
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Steve

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Let’s just look at what we already know about the brothers who are suspects in the bombing:

They are being portrayed as militant Muslim jihadists.
The older brother, Tamerlan, was named after a great Islamic warrior.
Their mother, though she insists that her children were innocent, has a criminal record as a shoplifter.
They come from a known breeding ground for Islamic extremists.
The older brother has domestic violence charges on his record, yet the system failed to deport him.
Both had very questionable “social networking” profiles and activity and surprisingly enough, their profiles were left up for all to see. As of the last time I checked these accounts had still not been disabled.
The FBI was warned about the older brother and interviewed him but concluded that he was no threat.


There is a plethora of information out there that makes it look like this could have been avoided if the authorities had done their jobs, and that may be the real story here.

Business Insider published an article Friday titled The FBI Needs To Explain Why It Failed To Monitor Boston Bombing Suspect Despite A Clear Warning. Below is an excerpt from that article:

“The foreign government told the FBI that Tsarnaev had become ‘a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer and that he had changed drastically … as he prepared to leave the United States for travel to the country’s region to join unspecified underground groups.’

In response to this warning, the FBI says it checked databases and interviewed Tsarnaev and other family members in the summer of 2011 but found no evidence of ‘terrorism activity.’

Then the FBI says it ‘requested more information’ about Tsarnaev from the foreign government but never received it.

Less than two years later, Tsarnaev is suspected of masterminding a successful terrorist attack on the city of Boston that killed three people and injured nearly 200.

So the FBI has some questions to answer.

Namely:

Given the explicit warning, why didn’t the FBI continue to monitor Tsarnaev?
Why didn’t the FBI follow up with the foreign government when it didn’t get the additional information it requested?
How common is a warning from a foreign government about a specific person like this? Does the FBI get thousands of them?
What made the FBI effectively clear Tsarnaev — and what might the FBI change to avoid making this mistake again?
Will the FBI conduct a full investigation into what happened?”

Where has DHS been in all of this?

somehow this was missed... and now we learn their are many more in the same university and neighborhood that have immigration violations and sketchy activities..
 

Steve

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So are you saying immigrant/naturalized citizens should have less rights than ones born here?
Should the Federal authorities just investigate threats against white citizens?... Or white Republican citizens? Should they not investigate threats against Muslim citizens? Or Black citizens?
Isn't a threat against any citizen a threat against the country?

you can sure come up with some off the wall crap can't you?

I doubt you would understand how birth and being raised here changes ones views..

but I see it every day... immigrants who display a love for their homeland and a disdain for ours.. yet still become US citizens for the benefits our country gives..

when a person can not accept this country as his/her homeland,.. they should not be citizens and are lieing when they become citizens..

so the question may be what makes a citizen?

it isn't a piece of paper in my view.. sure they are 'legally" one... but it is a lie..

the older brother was NOT a citizen.. and showed extreme distaste for our country and an unwavering love for his country and religion..

so yes.. he should have been watched,.. instead of wasting time chasing actual US citizens around and holding conferences to warn every one the danger granny is..
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
.Besides the US citizen wingnuts who make threats and/or openly admit to belonging to extremist anarchist groups like the KKK--- that a lot of the real dangers fly below the radar...

it is sad,.. that they.. (FED goverment law enforcement) spend so much time tracking wingnuts..

most of whom are no threat...


but why do they track citizens who are born here and not immigrants with known connections..

like I said... a blind person could have seen this coming...

how much time did you spend 'watching so called rightwingnuts and reporting on rightwingnuts?

and more importantly how many of them that you 'watched' were convicted of a bombing, murdering a police officer.. or blowing the legs off of innocent people?

I would say the answer is probably none.. yet you still watched them...

The majority of those we dealt with in our area for years were rightwingernuts-- the Posse Comitatus, the anti- tax folks like Red Beckman, the Aryan Nation, and the Freemen... And these groups were involved in Millions $ in crimes against the government, armed robberies, and the killing of both civilians and law enforcement....
These rightwingernut groups at times took up huge amounts of law enforcement time and funds-- both with undercover operations and open confrontation- which was most apparent with the Freemen barricaded standoff/arrests...


So are you saying immigrant/naturalized citizens should have less rights than ones born here?
Should the Federal authorities just investigate threats against white citizens?... Or white Republican citizens? Should they not investigate threats against Muslim citizens? Or Black citizens?
Isn't a threat against any citizen a threat against the country?

How do you tell if the Jigs' or the Mikes of the world are legitimate threats- especially when they spend so much time openly making threats and showing such deep hatetred and fear for some of these types of people- without investigating them?

Well if testimony given to the Congress can be believed Oldtimer Holder has
told his investigators no threats when it is a white against a black should be investigation when it came to voter intimidation. Does that answer your question to who is being investigated by HIS DOJ. :wink:
 

Steve

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The majority of those we dealt with in our area for years were rightwingernuts-- the Posse Comitatus, the anti- tax folks like Red Beckman, the Aryan Nation, and the Freemen... And these groups were involved in Millions $ in crimes against the government, armed robberies, and the killing of both civilians and law enforcement....

These rightwingernut groups at times took up huge amounts of law enforcement time and funds-- both with undercover operations and open confrontation- which was most apparent with the Freemen barricaded standoff/arrests...

Your answer proves my point.. you are still watching them..and if you found something on one of them you would report it to authorities. but yet,.. you don't want a foreign radical muslim watched..
 
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Steve said:
The majority of those we dealt with in our area for years were rightwingernuts-- the Posse Comitatus, the anti- tax folks like Red Beckman, the Aryan Nation, and the Freemen... And these groups were involved in Millions $ in crimes against the government, armed robberies, and the killing of both civilians and law enforcement....

These rightwingernut groups at times took up huge amounts of law enforcement time and funds-- both with undercover operations and open confrontation- which was most apparent with the Freemen barricaded standoff/arrests...

Your answer proves my point.. you are still watching them..and if you found something on one of them you would report it to authorities. but yet,.. you don't want a foreign radical muslim watched..

Yep- I still watch and oppose those promoting fear and hate to promote anarchy, criminal civil/human rights violations, and a civil war to take this great country back to the 19th century...

This also has included folks that were unsure where they belong- the multinationals that refuse to declare loyalty to one country and try to live as dual citizens ( a status I believe our government should remove) and especially of US citizens that abandon the country to live in third world and/or communist countries but still promote anarchism against our US government/law enforcement..... Or the foreign nationals that spend hours and hours a day doing the same- like the Hypocrits of the world......
Anyone with law enforcement experience would have to question these folks motive....

Besides the rightwingernuts I've reported for years and still do- I've reported several who included foreign national aliens - foreign national naturalized citizens- and some that were Muslims.... I even still get calls from some old folks that want to report to me that they saw a ragwearer out by Fort Peck Dam or some other area- and give me a license plate number... And I call the FBI/Border Patrol folks and let them know...

Yep- I talk almost daily with law enforcement from all levels-- and you can darn sure rest assured I inform them of any of those that come to my attention that promote hate and fear- and threaten to take our government down ....
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
The truth is- unless you want a country where you have no rights and live in total lockdown (and then Osama and the terrorist have won)

Example: Watertown, Massachusetts

Reason: Scared of a wounded, unarmed 19 year old kid. :roll:

Oh yeah- Mr. Tough Guy :roll: now in your task to do anything to tear down anything government and law enforcement this is a poor defenseless "wounded, unarmed 19 year old kid"....
After he and his brother killed 5 people- wounded hundreds of others including police with bombs, grenades, and firearms--- and you feel sorry for him :???: .... And you make fun of the police taking every precaution in their duty to serve and protect :???:
You are the one that makes me sick... Put your white hood and sheets back on! :( :( :(

Your a total fruitcake. I've already told you there's no sympathy from me from those boys.

I just don't believe in "Shooting First, and ask questions later".

Let the law do it's job properly. Not be an assassination squad........ :roll:

Like you said. If we are to be held under lockdown, Bin Laden has already won. :mad:
 
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