Federal Mandates date back over 200 years

[Soapweed]

Senator Ben Nelson from Nebraska is the dipstick that cast the deciding vote as to why Obamacare passed in the first place. Hopefully voters will remember this, and not allow his hand-picked wanna-be successor Bob Kerry to succeed in becoming this successor. As Earl Pitts would say, "Wake Up, America!"

 

[Larrry]

The sad thing in this health care bill there is nothing to keep medical costs in line, it's only a way for some people to get other people to pay their bills for them.

 

[TexasBred]

http://www.naturalnews.com/036341_Obamacare_new_taxes_mandate.html

 

[TexasBred]

There's a lot of things they could do IF it was really about health insurance.

That's just it. It isn't about healthcare. It's about supressing State's Rights and making the entire nation dependent on the almighty Federal Gov't.

They're too stupid to see it. :roll:

I was just reading about the casualties in the "War Of Northern Aggression". Using later Census data some researchers came up with over 600,000 Northern deaths and just over 200,000 deaths. Who really won the war???????????

I'm ready. Rick Perry had it right. Secede...................

Rick Perry never said that and the north won the war. Lee surrendered.

Did Perry threaten to secede?

The cited moment played out after an Associated Press reporter, Kelley Shannon, asked Perry after the 2009 rally if he thought the gathering reflected a national movement. Perry answered that it could be. He said people feel strangled by spending and taxation and they want help, according to an AP recording we reviewed in April 2010.

Shannon then asked Perry about some associating him with the idea of secession or sovereignty for Texas. "Oh, I think there's a lot of different scenarios," Perry replied. "Texas is a unique place. When we came in the union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that.

"You know, my hope is that America and Washington in particular pays attention," Perry continued. "We've got a great union. There is absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what may come out of that? So. But Texas is a very unique place and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

Perry next fielded a question from someone else about whether Texas might now be considered a natural terorrist state — no, Perry said — and the question-and-answer period closed.

At the time, Perry's comments were widely interpreted as indicating the Republican governor believed secession could legally occur; he subsequently did not back down from that conclusion.

However, a constitutional expert advised at the time that the Civil War long ago vanquished secession as a legal option.

Sanford Levinson, a professor at the University of Texas School of Law, said neither the Texas Constitution, the U.S. Constitution nor the Joint Resolution Annexing Texas to the United States of 1845, bestows an explicit right for the state to return to a Republic. Levinson said there is "no possibility whatsoever that the United States or any court would recognize a 'right' to secede."

Levinson noted that the 1845 resolution allows Texas to break into five new states, and it doesn't specify whether that would require congressional approval. But, he said, that's distinct from secession.

Does Perry's "who-knows-what-might-come" comment support White's statement that Perry threatened to leave the union?

Using the Nexis search tool, we found 169 major newspaper articles linking Perry and secede. None quoted Perry threatening to push for secession, though critics and comedians framed

 

[Mike]

Lee surrendered.

That is true, but Lee had no authority to surrender the entire Confederate Army, only the Army of Northern Virginia.

A few weeks later Johnston's surrender was bigger than Lee's.

But at the same time several other state's had not surrendered.

It came very close to turning into a guerrilla campaign with what was left of the Confederate Army wanting to terrorize the northern rural areas like Sherman did the South....................... but cooler heads prevailed.

You need to study up on the "War Of Northern Aggression". :wink:

 

[TexasBred]

Lee surrendered.

That is true, but Lee had no authority to surrender the entire Confederate Army, only the Army of Northern Virginia.

A few weeks later Johnston's surrender was bigger than Lee's.

But at the same time several other state's had not surrendered.

It came very close to turning into a guerrilla campaign with what was left of the Confederate Army wanting to terrorize the northern rural areas like Sherman did the South....................... but cooler heads prevailed.

You need to study up on the "War Of Northern Aggression". :wink:

Everyone must have thought he had that authority as he surrendered, signed the orders of surrender and the war ended completely soon thereafter. To have done anything differently would have simply led to untold thousands more dieing. I am aware of the consideration of the guerilla compaign but old man and young kids could have done very little other than get killed. We were beaten Mike. Someday you have to accept it. Starting another would would destroy the US completey.