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Feed from the ethanol plants

Team1roper

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Was wondering if anybody is feeding the pellets from the bio diesel plants
I hear its a 20% protein that is left over from the corn after they extract what they need for the deisel



any comments would really help
 

BRG

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We use these. They are call Corn Glutten pellets. They are around 20% protein I believe, and then about 95% the energy of corn. They are a good form of supplement for feeder calves. You don't want to feed to much of it, as they will get pretty loose. We are getting it laid in for $100 a ton coming about 200 miles. It is very affordable and works real good for us.
 

Turkey Track Bar

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Team1roper said:
Was wondering if anybody is feeding the pellets from the bio diesel plants
I hear its a 20% protein that is left over from the corn after they extract what they need for the deisel



any comments would really help

Roper:

Distillers grains are a great feed...here is a publication from Greg Lardy, Extension Beef Cattle Specialist at North Dakota State University...I think it'd be helpful in getting started feeding DDG's...

http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extpubs/ansci/beef/as1242.pdf

I hope this helps...if you have access and can get the dry distillers, give it a try. The dry distillers are easier to handle, and cheaper to haul than the wet, but are generally also tougher to get (supply vs demand!)

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 

Turkey Track Bar

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BRG said:
We use these. They are call Corn Glutten pellets. They are around 20% protein I believe, and then about 95% the energy of corn. They are a good form of supplement for feeder calves. You don't want to feed to much of it, as they will get pretty loose. We are getting it laid in for $100 a ton coming about 200 miles. It is very affordable and works real good for us.

BRG:

Actually Corn Gluten Feeds are by products of the Corn Sweetner market...whereas distillers grains are by products of the ethanol industry. Both are good feeds, but different in nutrient composition.

CGF come in both a wet and dry product, are about 22% CP (DDG's 29-30%), and a good feed supplement. But CGFs have some issues with Calcium to Phosporous ratios...They are high in Phosporous and Sulfer and low in Calcium. In our area our water is typically high in Sulfer so watch for signs of polio as well as the issues with the Ca to P ratio (should be 2:1; with CGF's it's about .1:1.2.)

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 

Turkey Track Bar

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Team1roper said:
Thanks again
now the trick is find where I can buy direct instead of through a reseller

Roper...

Do you have an ethanol plant near you? If so, call and ask to speak to someone about buying distiller grain, and they should be able to help you out. Try and get the dry stuff as the wet stuff will eat you up on freight costs, and is a bear to store. Plus it tends to mold pretty easy in heat, and it sounds like heat is something you've got!! If you have a corn sweetner plant near you, you can try to get some CGF's from them as well by calling. Again, try to get dried vs wet.

Your Extension Service/County Agent should be able to get information on local facilities and contacts for you. And, if there are some better/other options in your area they should be able to provide those for you too.

I hope this has helped...and good luck.

Cheers--

TTB :wink:
 

rustynail

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when feeding the brewers grain, which has about 30% protien, just don't feed too much or their hoofs will really start to grow out and will need to be trimmed.
was getting brewers grain from budweiser for about a penny a pound delivered, this was two years ago.
 

IL Rancher

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We feed Wet Gluten to our cows as a forage extender. It is good energy and also provides roughage but you do have t beware that Calcium problem... We feed a blancer pelle allong with it for most of the feeding season but what we are doing now is adding calcium to the TMR that we feed our cows... We could have mixed another batch of pellets but wewere concerend with Tetney and it was just cheaper to mix up a batch of hi mag and add the calcium for the remaining 2 weeks of feeding. We can get through the wet before it molds... I would hesistate to do it during the summer however..


We have so many plants going up around here it isn't even funny. They are going to be selling dry pellets for a good amount of money (Dried Distillers grain) but have already contacted the bigger livestock operations and offered to sell as much as we want on a wet basis since the cost of fuel for drying is one they would like to avoid... If al the Ethanol plants go up we will have 5 within 30 miles of here within 2 years... I have a hard time believing that all will be built however, might become a believer when I see ground broke. The closest one will be less than 5 miles of freight from here...
 

Red Robin

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DDG has become my favorite feed. I fed a small set of steers DDG through the winter. I started out on grass and as the grass decreased in quality, I added DDG. I finally got them up to 5lbs and the better steers gained a little over 3# per day . Ended up getting them heavier than I would have liked but can't complain about a problem like that. It's high protien, high energy and lower starch than corn I think which I really like if I'm grazing them. It's good feed.
 

Denny

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rustynail said:
when feeding the brewers grain, which has about 30% protien, just don't feed too much or their hoofs will really start to grow out and will need to be trimmed.
was getting brewers grain from budweiser for about a penny a pound delivered, this was two years ago.

I've been getting the BREW from Budweiser since I was a wee little lad... :drink: :wink: :p
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Team1roper said:
Was wondering if anybody is feeding the pellets from the bio diesel plants
I hear its a 20% protein that is left over from the corn after they extract what they need for the deisel



any comments would really help


I have a question. Do they use corn in making Bio Diesel?
I thought Bio Diesel was from oil seed products.
Are the using Ethanol in Bio Diesel?

Guess that is a couple of questions.
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Team1roper said:
Was wondering if anybody is feeding the pellets from the bio diesel plants
I hear its a 20% protein that is left over from the corn after they extract what they need for the deisel



any comments would really help


I have a question. Do they use corn in making Bio Diesel?
I thought Bio Diesel was from oil seed products.
Are the using Ethanol in Bio Diesel?

Guess that is a couple of questions.

On second thought they do have corn oil. Would the corn be fermented in making bio Diesel? Or would it be pressed?
 

IL Rancher

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The byproduct in biodiesel is basically soymeal from crusihing the beans and glycerol i small amounts... And yes, typically it is from soybeans although I am sure there are other vegtable oils you could make it from.
 

Turkey Track Bar

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Team1roper said:
Was wondering if anybody is feeding the pellets from the bio diesel plants
I hear its a 20% protein that is left over from the corn after they extract what they need for the deisel



any comments would really help


I have a question. Do they use corn in making Bio Diesel?
I thought Bio Diesel was from oil seed products.
Are the using Ethanol in Bio Diesel?

Guess that is a couple of questions.

Hi BMR!

To the best of my knowledge, which admittedly isn't all that great, they only use oil seeds, soybeans, canola, etc., in biodiesel. I could however be wrong. I don't think there is any ethanol in biodiesel, but then again could be wrong.

Apparently ADM is putting a biodiesel plant up near Velva, ND, which is southeast of Minot. They are locating it next to their current canola crushing facility.

I think the major by product from the crushing facilities is meal.

I hope you and Miss Tam and family are doing well...

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Hi TTB, Tam is busy getting ready for a May 20 wedding. Our oldest is gettin Hitched in Regina. Been real handy with her living in Alberta going back to Manitoba for her wedding shower and her mother making the wedding dress and pretty much all the decorations except the things that needed welding which she coerced Lane and myself into doing.
Calving is going pretty good, Hfrs are locked up but the cows are in the hills and haven't been checked in 2 days. Tam is mad at me but I have faith in my cows as I have bred for trouble free herd since I started. If the rain holds off i think Britt and I can put a day in the saddle and get them checked. We have sort of a adobe clay that is really slippery when wet so not worth risking a horse going down when it's to greasy.
Hope your spring is going smoothly and all the best to you and your.

Michael
 

katrina

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We have fed corn glutin to our fats. Wonderful feed. We called our local trucking co and they lined us up with the distillery. We had to sign a contract. We covered the glutin so it wouldn't mold... Our cattle really liked it and the conversion rate and consumption is fantastic...
On biodiesel. We make our own biodiesel. We use sunflowers that we raise ourselves. We squeeze the oil out and feed the byproduct to our cows and calves..
 

Big Muddy rancher

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katrina said:
We have fed corn glutin to our fats. Wonderful feed. We called our local trucking co and they lined us up with the distillery. We had to sign a contract. We covered the glutin so it wouldn't mold... Our cattle really liked it and the conversion rate and consumption is fantastic...
On biodiesel. We make our own biodiesel. We use sunflowers that we raise ourselves. We squeeze the oil out and feed the byproduct to our cows and calves..


Katrina did you read the article that Team1roper posted the link to? If I understand it right Bio Diesel from sunflower takes 118% more fuel to make the you get out of it.
 
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