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fff moderating now?? Or just OT being his normal self?

aplusmnt

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Is fff a moderator now or just OT being unfair and unbalanced? Because the keep Alices post where she calls Sandhusker a Prick. But delete mine where I asked her if that made her the equal bad word for a female.

Double standards going on!

Guess that is what happens when you let Hypocrites be Moderators!
 
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Anonymous

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aplusmnt said:
Is fff a moderator now or just OT being unfair and unbalanced? Because the keep Alices post where she calls Sandhusker a Prick. But delete mine where I asked her if that made her the equal bad word for a female.

Double standards going on!

Guess that is what happens when you let Hypocrites be Moderators!

Weren't me- I didn't even notice they were missing-- but sometimes when I come on here and see 30-40 birth conspiracy posts I just hit Mark all Read- and don't get to them all... :wink:

Kind of depressing sometimes reading all the posts from the folks wishing for Obama and therefore the country to fail-- or that are wishing for/promoting anarchy .....
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
Kind of depressing sometimes reading all the posts from the folks wishing for Obama and therefore the country to fail-- or that are wishing for/promoting anarchy .....

I am sure you know what you are talking about since you spent the last 5 years or so doing the same thing with Bush!
 
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Anonymous

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aplusmnt said:
Oldtimer said:
Kind of depressing sometimes reading all the posts from the folks wishing for Obama and therefore the country to fail-- or that are wishing for/promoting anarchy .....

I am sure you know what you are talking about since you spent the last 5 years or so doing the same thing with Bush!

Find one time I said I wanted Bush to fail- or the country to fail or go into anarchy....All I wanted GW to do was pull his head out of his arse and he and his backslapper brethren on here to breath some fresh air before he bankrupt the country- and I predicted that is exactly what he would do if he didn't change direction- and that is what he did with the Bush Bust....

In fact I even agreed with Pelosi (something I seldom do) on not allowing the Impeachment proceedings against Bush/Cheney to go forward, altho all the constitutional scholars agreed there was way more than enough evidence to proceed, just because it would be too divisive and damaging to the country....I agreed the voters should be allowed to decide at the polls- which they overwhelmingly did in both 06 and 08- with their "throw the bums out" results...
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
aplusmnt said:
Is fff a moderator now or just OT being unfair and unbalanced? Because the keep Alices post where she calls Sandhusker a Prick. But delete mine where I asked her if that made her the equal bad word for a female.

Double standards going on!

Guess that is what happens when you let Hypocrites be Moderators!

Weren't me- I didn't even notice they were missing-- but sometimes when I come on here and see 30-40 birth conspiracy posts I just hit Mark all Read- and don't get to them all... :wink:

Kind of depressing sometimes reading all the posts from the folks wishing for Obama and therefore the country to fail-- or that are wishing for/promoting anarchy .....

If Hitler would of failed in his quest to become dictator of Germany, would Germany of failed as well?
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
aplusmnt said:
Is fff a moderator now or just OT being unfair and unbalanced? Because the keep Alices post where she calls Sandhusker a Prick. But delete mine where I asked her if that made her the equal bad word for a female.

Double standards going on!

Guess that is what happens when you let Hypocrites be Moderators!

Weren't me- I didn't even notice they were missing-- but sometimes when I come on here and see 30-40 birth conspiracy posts I just hit Mark all Read- and don't get to them all... :wink:

Kind of depressing sometimes reading all the posts from the folks wishing for Obama and therefore the country to fail-- or that are wishing for/promoting anarchy .....

If Hitler would of failed in his quest to become dictator of Germany, would Germany of failed as well?

Hitler did fail- and his country did too...
 

Sandhusker

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Read what I wrote again. Hitler did not fail at becoming the dictator of Germany. He succeeded. He then did exactly as he pleased and look at what happened to Germany. Look at what happened to the whole world. This is a clear example that the success of a country's leader and the welfare of that country are NOT, I repeat NOT, one in the same. So please knock off this garbage about "If Obama fails, the country fails".
 

movin' on

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I sure hope Obama fails.

If Obama wins, America begins a very definite downward spiral that will be very hard to correct.
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
Read what I wrote again. Hitler did not fail at becoming the dictator of Germany. He succeeded. He then did exactly as he pleased and look at what happened to Germany. Look at what happened to the whole world. This is a clear example that the success of a country's leader and the welfare of that country are NOT, I repeat NOT, one in the same. So please knock off this garbage about "If Obama fails, the country fails".

Well you better hope these Obama plans to bring the country out of the Bush Bust work- or the country will fail- and there won't be any need for Bankers anymore.....
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Read what I wrote again. Hitler did not fail at becoming the dictator of Germany. He succeeded. He then did exactly as he pleased and look at what happened to Germany. Look at what happened to the whole world. This is a clear example that the success of a country's leader and the welfare of that country are NOT, I repeat NOT, one in the same. So please knock off this garbage about "If Obama fails, the country fails".

Well you better hope these Obama plans to bring the country out of the Bush Bust work- or the country will fail- and there won't be any need for Bankers anymore.....

Bull Crap, recessions have came and gone since the beginning of this country! We are already seeing some signs of recovery right on time, most recessions last around 18 months.

Even after 911 we came out of it quickly!

The only thing Obama is doing is setting us up for some serious big problems down the line! Recessions are easy to over come, but when you totally turn the Capitalist and economic system upside down with Socialism then there is no longer a temporary fix you have started permanent quality of life changes!

Example: When you bail out Car companies and move bond holders to the back of the list and elevate unions to the top of the list, you just changed the way America does business. People will be Leary of buying bonds in companies in future because the rule of law was not followed and they can no longer trust they are first in line to be paid back so now it is more of a gamble to buy bonds and help growth of businesses.

We would have been better to let companies fail, than to go against the rules of doing business that we have had in place for 200 hundred years!

Obama is changing America, at the worse Bush caused a Recession, lots of Presidents ruled during Recessions, Clinton left Bush one! Recessions come and go, but with Obama the way of life America has enjoyed since the founding fathers is in Jeopardy!

We have even came out of depressions the stronger for it! But Obama is changing the system that made us great! And there may be no coming out of that! Money is the easiest thing in the world to come by, quality of life is not so easy!
 

Soapweed

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Read what I wrote again. Hitler did not fail at becoming the dictator of Germany. He succeeded. He then did exactly as he pleased and look at what happened to Germany. Look at what happened to the whole world. This is a clear example that the success of a country's leader and the welfare of that country are NOT, I repeat NOT, one in the same. So please knock off this garbage about "If Obama fails, the country fails".

Well you better hope these Obama plans to bring the country out of the Bush Bust work- or the country will fail- and there won't be any need for Bankers anymore.....

Bull Crap, recessions have came and gone since the beginning of this country! We are already seeing some signs of recovery right on time, most recessions last around 18 months.

Even after 911 we came out of it quickly!

The only thing Obama is doing is setting us up for some serious big problems down the line! Recessions are easy to over come, but when you totally turn the Capitalist and economic system upside down with Socialism then there is no longer a temporary fix you have started permanent quality of life changes!

Example: When you bail out Car companies and move bond holders to the back of the list and elevate unions to the top of the list, you just changed the way America does business. People will be Leary of buying bonds in companies in future because the rule of law was not followed and they can no longer trust they are first in line to be paid back so now it is more of a gamble to buy bonds and help growth of businesses.

We would have been better to let companies fail, than to go against the rules of doing business that we have had in place for 200 hundred years!

Obama is changing America, at the worse Bush caused a Recession, lots of Presidents ruled during Recessions, Clinton left Bush one! Recessions come and go, but with Obama the way of life America has enjoyed since the founding fathers is in Jeopardy!

We have even came out of depressions the stronger for it! But Obama is changing the system that made us great! And there may be no coming out of that! Money is the easiest thing in the world to come by, quality of life is not so easy!

Very good post, Aplus. You hit the nail on the head.
 
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Anonymous

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aplusmnt said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Read what I wrote again. Hitler did not fail at becoming the dictator of Germany. He succeeded. He then did exactly as he pleased and look at what happened to Germany. Look at what happened to the whole world. This is a clear example that the success of a country's leader and the welfare of that country are NOT, I repeat NOT, one in the same. So please knock off this garbage about "If Obama fails, the country fails".

Well you better hope these Obama plans to bring the country out of the Bush Bust work- or the country will fail- and there won't be any need for Bankers anymore.....

Bull Crap, recessions have came and gone since the beginning of this country! We are already seeing some signs of recovery right on time, most recessions last around 18 months.

Even after 911 we came out of it quickly!

The only thing Obama is doing is setting us up for some serious big problems down the line! Recessions are easy to over come, but when you totally turn the Capitalist and economic system upside down with Socialism then there is no longer a temporary fix you have started permanent quality of life changes!

Example: When you bail out Car companies and move bond holders to the back of the list and elevate unions to the top of the list, you just changed the way America does business. People will be Leary of buying bonds in companies in future because the rule of law was not followed and they can no longer trust they are first in line to be paid back so now it is more of a gamble to buy bonds and help growth of businesses.

We would have been better to let companies fail, than to go against the rules of doing business that we have had in place for 200 hundred years!

Obama is changing America, at the worse Bush caused a Recession, lots of Presidents ruled during Recessions, Clinton left Bush one! Recessions come and go, but with Obama the way of life America has enjoyed since the founding fathers is in Jeopardy!

We have even came out of depressions the stronger for it! But Obama is changing the system that made us great! And there may be no coming out of that! Money is the easiest thing in the world to come by, quality of life is not so easy!

You may be right- but I- and a great multitude of economists, including many from the Repub Party (remember it was Bush/Repub administration that said we need the first stimulus- and TARP) personally think this is the closest the countries financial sector/economy came to imploding...We were within days of the whole economy melting down like it never has before...And without intervention, I'm sure would have...If you go back and look- I opposed TARP at first- until I saw all the experts testifying at the hearings of how dire straits the country was in- and how without the Fed intervention and promised bailouts- there would not be a US financial system anymore...

But if you don't agree- you don't try to change things by promoting anarchy- or overthrowal of the government- or seceding from the union- or failure of the country....Then you become worse than those you're fighting... You accomplish it by the same way the people of the country told Bush and the Repubs they had taken the wrong direction with their leadership of the country - at the ballot box...

I'm sure when Teddy was out busting trusts- and regulating business and industries- and giving workers and consumers rights a whole lot of folks were peeing down their legs too- predicting wrack and ruin of the country...But it didn't happen- it made the country stronger...
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
aplusmnt said:
Oldtimer said:
Well you better hope these Obama plans to bring the country out of the Bush Bust work- or the country will fail- and there won't be any need for Bankers anymore.....

Bull Crap, recessions have came and gone since the beginning of this country! We are already seeing some signs of recovery right on time, most recessions last around 18 months.

Even after 911 we came out of it quickly!

The only thing Obama is doing is setting us up for some serious big problems down the line! Recessions are easy to over come, but when you totally turn the Capitalist and economic system upside down with Socialism then there is no longer a temporary fix you have started permanent quality of life changes!

Example: When you bail out Car companies and move bond holders to the back of the list and elevate unions to the top of the list, you just changed the way America does business. People will be Leary of buying bonds in companies in future because the rule of law was not followed and they can no longer trust they are first in line to be paid back so now it is more of a gamble to buy bonds and help growth of businesses.

We would have been better to let companies fail, than to go against the rules of doing business that we have had in place for 200 hundred years!

Obama is changing America, at the worse Bush caused a Recession, lots of Presidents ruled during Recessions, Clinton left Bush one! Recessions come and go, but with Obama the way of life America has enjoyed since the founding fathers is in Jeopardy!

We have even came out of depressions the stronger for it! But Obama is changing the system that made us great! And there may be no coming out of that! Money is the easiest thing in the world to come by, quality of life is not so easy!

You may be right- but I- and a great multitude of economists, including many from the Repub Party (remember it was Bush/Repub administration that said we need the first stimulus- and TARP) personally think this is the closest the countries financial sector/economy came to imploding...We were within days of the whole economy melting down like it never has before...And without intervention, I'm sure would have...If you go back and look- I opposed TARP at first- until I saw all the experts testifying at the hearings of how dire straits the country was in- and how without the Fed intervention and promised bailouts- there would not be a US financial system anymore...

But if you don't agree- you don't try to change things by promoting anarchy- or overthrowal of the government- or seceding from the union- or failure of the country....Then you become worse than those you're fighting... You accomplish it by the same way the people of the country told Bush and the Repubs they had taken the wrong direction with their leadership of the country - at the ballot box...

I'm sure when Teddy was out busting trusts- and regulating business and industries- and giving workers and consumers rights a whole lot of folks were peeing down their legs too- predicting wrack and ruin of the country...But it didn't happen- it made the country stronger...

IF and I say IF anything was needed Tarp all that was needed! If what the sky is falling crew said then Tarp took care of it. And if any stimulus helped to bring us out of this Recession it was Tarp. Everything since then has did nothing but sell our kids future down the road and increase our national debt to unsustainable numbers.

Personally I say we made our bed then let us lie in it! I would rather endure a depression so my children and grandchildren do not have to in the future! All we did now was an attempt to save our own butts at the expense of future generations.

I have always said Bush spent to much, and Obama is actually now making Bush look like the Conservative that some falsely labeled him!
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Read what I wrote again. Hitler did not fail at becoming the dictator of Germany. He succeeded. He then did exactly as he pleased and look at what happened to Germany. Look at what happened to the whole world. This is a clear example that the success of a country's leader and the welfare of that country are NOT, I repeat NOT, one in the same. So please knock off this garbage about "If Obama fails, the country fails".

Well you better hope these Obama plans to bring the country out of the Bush Bust work- or the country will fail- and there won't be any need for Bankers anymore.....

If you think Obama's agenda is to pull us out of the Liberal Bust to save the country, you aren't looking at the big picture, heck, you're not even looking at the medium picture.

The man's agenda is to "change" the country. You libs voted for him because you thought the change he ran on was going to be transparancy, honesty, and accountabilty in government - and he let you think that as long as it got him elected. WRONG - BIG SURPRISE! The "change" he talked about was transforming a capitalist society into a socialist society. His "change" is to put the goverment in charge of every facet of our lives and he is attempting to ram that through as fast as he can before people like you wake up.

He doesn't give a tinker's damn about our deficit, or there would of been no porkulus bill. He's simply not letting any crisis go to waste, and even creating more crisises to use to install socialism. Look at every damn thing the man is trying to do and ask yourself the question; "Could this be a part of a socialist agenda" and you'll find yourself realizing that it makes sense.
 

loomixguy

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Read what I wrote again. Hitler did not fail at becoming the dictator of Germany. He succeeded. He then did exactly as he pleased and look at what happened to Germany. Look at what happened to the whole world. This is a clear example that the success of a country's leader and the welfare of that country are NOT, I repeat NOT, one in the same. So please knock off this garbage about "If Obama fails, the country fails".

Well you better hope these Obama plans to bring the country out of the Bush Bust work- or the country will fail- and there won't be any need for Bankers anymore.....

If you think Obama's agenda is to pull us out of the Liberal Bust to save the country, you aren't looking at the big picture, heck, you're not even looking at the medium picture.

The man's agenda is to "change" the country. You libs voted for him because you thought the change he ran on was going to be transparancy, honesty, and accountabilty in government - and he let you think that as long as it got him elected. WRONG - BIG SURPRISE! The "change" he talked about was transforming a capitalist society into a socialist society. His "change" is to put the goverment in charge of every facet of our lives and he is attempting to ram that through as fast as he can before people like you wake up.

He doesn't give a tinker's damn about our deficit, or there would of been no porkulus bill. He's simply not letting any crisis go to waste, and even creating more crisises to use to install socialism. Look at every damn thing the man is trying to do and ask yourself the question; "Could this be a part of a socialist agenda" and you'll find yourself realizing that it makes sense.

:agree: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 

Soapweed

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hypocritexposer said:
Good posts A+ and Sandhusker, together you nailed it.

They did, and they did a fine job of it. How can otherwise intelligent people not see what the "Big Picture" of Obama's agenda really is? The American public is really being duped and taken for a ride.
 

redbrand

Well-known member
Soapweed said:
hypocritexposer said:
Good posts A+ and Sandhusker, together you nailed it.

They did, and they did a fine job of it. How can otherwise intelligent people not see what the "Big Picture" of Obama's agenda really is? The American public is really being duped and taken for a ride.

The unfortunate part is that they're taking all the rest of us along for the ride........
 

hopalong

Well-known member
redbrand said:
Soapweed said:
hypocritexposer said:
Good posts A+ and Sandhusker, together you nailed it.

They did, and they did a fine job of it. How can otherwise intelligent people not see what the "Big Picture" of Obama's agenda really is? The American public is really being duped and taken for a ride.

The unfortunate part is that they're taking all the rest of us along for the ride........

Yep and it one scary ride at that! :mad: :mad:
 

MoGal

Well-known member
hopalong said:
redbrand said:
Soapweed said:
They did, and they did a fine job of it. How can otherwise intelligent people not see what the "Big Picture" of Obama's agenda really is? The American public is really being duped and taken for a ride.

The unfortunate part is that they're taking all the rest of us along for the ride........

Yep and it one scary ride at that! :mad: :mad:

Yes it was nailed head on....... but don't fall for their "fear" or "scare" tactic........ that is exactly what they want so they can dismantle more of our nations sovereignty and our rights....

NOBODY is asking the federal reserve what they did with the interest they've charged "we" the people when they created money that last 96 years and we are paying 8 1/2 % interest for every penny they print. We've even paid as high as 17% interest...... where is that money??? That tarp money bailed out the central banks who control the stock of the Federal Reserve and the government took GM and Chrsyler stock so why didn't the government takeover these central banks federal reserve stock???

This was all planned for years to bring about global government, global currency and a global world..... the global elite found out that a fascist totalitarian dictatorship made them the most money while the other 95% of the people have to do without.....

OT - the onlything keeping this country from being taken over is because the people still have their guns. You can't hardly get the stuff to make your own bullets and you can't hardly find bullets and they're busy passing laws so that everyone has to register their guns and the government is pushing cities to add or increase flouride in the water system by 2010.
When the government stops representing the people and keeps pushing us towards socialism (which is communism), its time to wake up and start asking yourself what is their agenda?

Many keep saying we've bounced back before....... we had an industrial economy at the time.... we had tariffs on incoming goods.... we now have a service economy that relies on everybody going deep in debt to keep it going...... and it was all planned. This country worships the God of mammon (money) and all the greed that goes with it.

A Marine, whom I am very proud of, just recently told me, " The word IMPOSSIBLE only exists if you let it and is used only as an excuse. Something only seems impossible until SOMEONE does it... Be that someone and lets change the world."

If only more people would repeat that more often.
 
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