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Florida Vote Twist: More Ballots Than Voters

hypocritexposer

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TRR: Florida Vote Twist: More Ballots Than Voters


By James S. Robbins - The Washington Times

November 10, 2012, 03:02PM



Republican Congressman Allen West’s campaign is ready to “go to war” to get a recount in the Florida 18th Congressional District race. The latest twist to emerge from the ongoing vote count – in some precincts there are more ballots than voters.

Preliminary, unofficial vote totals were filed today in the neck and neck race between Mr. West and Democratic challenger Patrick Murphy. The Murphy campaign has already declared victory, but the numbers have not been officially certified and the count goes on. The West campaign believes that they are close to the .5% vote margin that will trigger an automatic recount under Florida election law.

The vote count has been marked by controversy. Poll watchers accuse local election officials of incompetence, intimidation and possible fraud. The latest twist is that in some precincts of St. Lucie County there appear to be dozens more ballots being counted than the number of voters. The West campaign is demanding St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker release the voter poll books that show how many voters actually showed up on Election Day to validate the count. “What we are saying is, open your books!” a source close to the West campaign told The Washington Times.

The West team is “ready to go to war to get the recount,” according to Jeffrey Scott Shapiro, a volunteer lawyer for the West campaign speaking in an unofficial capacity. They are conducting a precinct-by-precinct statistical analysis of 18th district election results going back to 2006 to compare to the 2012 results. Evidence of dramatic shifts in voting patterns this year could provide a road map for follow-on investigations into possible vote irregularities.

Questions also persist regarding the military absentee ballots in Palm Beach County. Observers were banned without explanation from watching the ballots being opened. They were permitted to observe the counting process, however there was no way to know whether the absentee ballots that were produced were the same ones that were opened, or if all the ballots were produced. Lacking a transparent chain of custody of the military ballots it is impossible to validate that the votes cast by servicemen and women overseas are fairly and accurately being counted.

Local election officials have contributed to a climate of hostility and suspicion throughout the vote count process. “They have created reasonable suspicion to the point where we don’t feel comfortable,” Mr. Shapiro said. Election oversight is intended to maintain the integrity of the voting process. Ideally it would be a cooperative, transparent, bipartisan effort that seeks legitimate outcomes. But this vote count is far from ideal.

Meanwhile St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker has gone to ground. No one is answering the phones at her office. She will not answer her cell phone and her voice-mail is full. She has hired an attorney, who has also been incommunicado. If there is another side to the story it has yet to be told.

Read more: TRR: Florida Vote Twist: More Ballots Than Voters - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/10/florida-vote-twist-more-ballots-voters/print/#ixzz2BrYNs5uW
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Faster horses

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I am just so tired of all the corruption. Will it ever stop? When will the
news move on to something else? Someone finds all these stories, publishes them
but nothing ever changes, except we now know how
corrupt our government is. It's not a good feeling. :cry:
Someone is controlling all
this, and it isn't the American voters.
Everything is manipulated,
covered-up, sensationalized, spun, you name it, someone does it.
I don't believe it's ever going to change. If you tell the truth you have to
defend, defend, defend. It's almost like the country likes being lied to.

"May the best liar win", seems to be the motto America lives by.
Disgusting.
 

Steve

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Steve said:
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BREAKING: St. Lucie County, Florida Had 141.1% Turnout; Obama Won County

Out of 175,554 registered voters, 247,713 vote cards were cast in St. Lucie County, Florida on Tuesday. Barack Obama won the county.


Coincidentally (or not), St. Lucie County is also in Allen West's district, where 6,000 votes mysteriously "shifted" from Mr. West to his challenger.

“We are not getting to observe the vote count,” he said. Mr. Shapiro has been overseeing the process at the Riveria Beach vote tabulation center. Temporary workers are helping the local staff oversee the count of absentee ballots, those damaged by voting machines, and ballots in which the three pages have become separated. They are making new ballots to replace the damaged ones, and are required to mark them with the same votes. Florida law allows observers to be present but they are being blocked from making sure the ballots are marked accurately.

A physical barrier had been erected making it impossible for the observers to see what was going on. After repeated objections, the observers were allowed to stand behind the people reproducing the ballots. But then the ballot workers blocked their view. “Half of the people reproducing the ballots are crowding together,” Mr. Shapiro said, “to make it impossible for anyone to see what they are doing.” He added that “there is a sense that since they spend so much time obstructing our view they are not reproducing [the ballots] correctly.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/9/allen-west-asks-recount-amid-growing-vote-count-sc/

typical.. invalidate the military vote, and forge the rest... this is starting to really stink.. and get old..

It wouldn't bother me if the election was fair and free of such rampant fraud...
 

S.S.A.P.

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So this 'might have been" the place where they were photcopying ballots because they ran out. I just caught that part off the news - not the other details!

I have to admit I don't understand your electoral process but why does it appear to be a mess; missing military, delayed count, reproducing ballots ... and photocopying :???:
 

Steve

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this doesn't appear to be cause by running out of ballots..

those damaged by voting machines, and ballots in which the three pages have become separated. They are making new ballots to replace the damaged ones, and are required to mark them with the same votes.

but then if you have 175,554 registered voters, and 247,713 show up, you are bound to be a bit short...
 

hypocritexposer

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Faster horses said:
If you were playing a card game with this many screw-ups everyone would be hollering for a REDEAL!


They are "hollering for a redeal", but won't get it.

Whitehouse Petition for recount

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv#thank-you=p
 

gmacbeef

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
I am just so tired of all the corruption. Will it ever stop? When will the
news move on to something else? Someone finds all these stories, publishes them
but nothing ever changes, except we now know how
corrupt our government is. It's not a good feeling. :cry:
Someone is controlling all
this, and it isn't the American voters.
Everything is manipulated,
covered-up, sensationalized, spun, you name it, someone does it.
I don't believe it's ever going to change. If you tell the truth you have to
defend, defend, defend. It's almost like the country likes being lied to.

"May the best liar win", seems to be the motto America lives by.
Disgusting.

This is Oldtimers platform........... :(
 

Steve

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
If you were playing a card game with this many screw-ups everyone would be hollering for a REDEAL!

I wouldn't play cards with someone who cheated as much as the liberals have...

and certainly wouldn't stand behind one...

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In the old days when you dealt yourself a few dozen aces.. someone was bound to make sure it never happened again... :?
 
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