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Anonymous

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For you folks that don't believe that GW and the elitist globalists neocons are moving full speed ahead- behind our back to create the North American Union in the image of the European Union--giving up our borders, our sovereignty, our currency, and our standard of living-- click on the attatchment and read the 2004 Totalization Agreement with Mexico that Judicial Watch has obtained-- that essentially sets up our Social Security benefits for Mexicans in the US and visa versa...

http://www.judicialwatch.org/totalization-agreement-mexico
 

Tex

Well-known member
There is a rapid march to the airwaves being consolidated too.

I just wonder if they will get away with this coup or how far we will let them get.

All it will take is another terrorist attack.
 
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Anonymous

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You'd think if these guys are going to tell falsehoods- they would at least all get together and tell the same story :???: :roll: :shock: :( :mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br31mdP8-Ug

PREMEDITATED MERGER
Canada openly proclaims NAFTA Superhighway
Readers bombard Newsweek with evidence after adverse story on Ron Paul

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: December 8, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com



A Newsweek story critical of Rep. Ron Paul and labeling the NAFTA Superhighway a baseless conspiracy theory has generated approximately 250 adverse reader responses on the "comments" section of Newsweek's website, many citing hard evidence that the proposed transcontinental trade corridor is quite real.

"There is a broad coalition of Americans developing across the United States who are opposed to a North American Union and know that Ron Paul is right and we need to take action now before it is too late," Jesse Benton, national press secretary for the Ron Paul Presidential Campaign 08 told WND.

Particularly interesting among Newsweek's reader comments were citations of Canadian government websites that openly discuss and declare plans to create a NAFTA Superhighway.

Several readers pointed to a Canadian government video clip gaining wide circulation on the Internet. It involves a Nov. 20 "Speech from the Throne," in which John Harvard, lieutenant-governor of the Province of Manitoba, Canada, opened the second session of the 39th assembly of the provincial legislature with comments proclaiming support for the development of a "Mid-Continent Trade Corridor."

"Manitoba is also taking a major role in the development of a Mid-Continent Trade Corridor, connecting our northern Port of Churchill with trade markets throughout the central United States and Mexico," Harvard told the legislature.

"To advance the concept," Harvard continued, "an alliance has been built with business leaders and state and city governments spanning the entire length of the Corridor. When fully developed, the trade route will incorporate an 'inland port' in Winnipeg with pre-clearance for international shipping."

A video posted on YouTube shows excerpts from Harvard's speech juxtaposed with clips of President Bush and Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper at the press conference of the third summit of the Security and Prosperity Partnership in Montebello, Quebec, on Aug. 21, ridiculing the North American Union and the NAFTA Superhighway as baseless conspiracy theories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br31mdP8-Ug

A Destination-Winnipeg trade group website identifies the Mid-Continent Trade Corridor as "the northern gateway of this vast Corridor, a network of highways and railways linking the business community with cities to the south, through the U.S. and into Mexico."

The Canadian government's Canada Transport website describes the Mid-Continent International Trade Corridor as a rail and highway network which stretches from Manitoba to Mexico.

Other Newsweek readers provided links to an Alberta government website.

http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/2760.htm

The Ministry of Infrastructure and Transportation in Alberta, Canada, has posted on its website a trade corridor map that shows a NAFTA Superhighway clearly designated in the same route, including Interstate Highways 35, 29 and 94, that the North America's SuperCorridor Coalition, or NASCO, designates as the I-35 NAFTA Superhighway.

Craig Offman of the National Post writes that this Alberta map of the NAFTA Superhighway on the Alberta Government website is currently Number Two on the popular U.S. web site Digg.com.

"Well, now, Mr. Paul might think he has some real fodder," Offman writees. "The Ministry of Infrastructure and Transportation website uses the exact phrase, showing a thoroughfare that begins in Manitoba and drops all the way down to West Texas."

"Why would the Canadian government web page in Alberta show a NAFTA Superhighway if the highway doesn't exist?" asks a Newsweek reader linking to the Alberta site. "Keep on lying to the people, Newsweek, it is what you do best."

"We have had that map with the NAFTA Superhighway on our website for 5 years or more," Jerry Bellikka, director of communications for the Alberta Ministry of Infrastructure and Transportation told WND in a telephone interview.

"The website is a site for truckers," Bellikka explained. "We try to harmonize our trucking regulations with Canada and the United States so truckers can log on and see where they fit on our requirements when they are traveling along these North American corridors."

WND asked Bellikka if the Alberta Ministry of Infrastructure and Transportation had any intention of changing the NAFTA Superhighway map on its website.

"No," Bellinkka answered directly. "We have no plan to change the designation of NAFTA Superhighway on our website."

full story:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59105
 

MoGal

Well-known member
I posted about that on another thread OT, one that someone was talking about we needed immigrant workers for these poor poor millionaire farmers and they figured the costs of it to the taxpayers and it was not included if we had an amnesty program...........

Last night I found this site and was up late reading a lot of it (maybe why I've been so tired today) and for Christians it has quite a bit of insight and for nonchristains I'm sure they will poo poo it and say its conspiracy theory:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/112907.html
(its towards the bottom of the page)

VII. NAFTA continues to develop amidst great controversy amongst Conservatives.

This next article seems to indicate that the time for the implementation of the new currency, the 'AMERO' may be closer than you might think.

NEWS BRIEF: "Billionaire Tells Canada: Time for Amero is now", by Jerome Corsi, World Net Daily, November 27, 2007

"Stephen Jarislowsky, a billionaire money manager and investor the Canadian newspaper Globe and Mail bills as the Canadian Warren Buffet, has told a parliamentary committee Canada and the United States both should abandon their national dollar currencies and move to a regional North American currency as soon as possible."

Cutting Edge has been talking about the creation of NAFTA since late, 1993, when Congress passed the legislation under the leadership of President Bill Clinton and Former President George H.W. Bush (Sr.) (Read NEWS1002, "NAFTA: The Shocking 'Rest of the Story' ").

We have also demonstrated that the concept for a union of North America and South America, each one in its own sphere, was planned four hundred years ago, by Sir Francis Bacon and Queen Elizabeth II. A Plan which has been carried forward for that many centuries is a Plan backed by the most powerful and wicked people on earth -- the Illuminati.

Let us now return back to this featured news article.

" 'I think we have to really seriously start thinking of the model of a continental currency just like Europe', Jarislowsky told the Canadian House of Commons' finance committee, according to the Globe and Mail in Toronto ... In an exclusive telephone interview with WND, Jarislowsky repeated his call for a European Union-style currency to be created between Canada and the United States.

" 'The idea would be a European Union-type set-up', Jarislowsky said, 'with a North American Central Bank that would issue the new currency and sit over the Bank of Canada and the Federal Reserve Bank in the United States'."

Again, Cutting Edge has been warning for many years that the Amero currency will be modeled after the Euro, since that currency has proven to be highly successful. The key to establishing the Amero currency is to "create the problem" first which will "require" some dramatic change.

Of course, the controlled fall of the American Dollar fits that bill exactly! For about two decades now, the American Dollar has been carefully managed so that its value will fall. This decline has been increasingly precipitous since January, 2007, when some countries like Iran and Russia began switching to other currencies as they sold their oil on the international market.

Some day, the fall of the American Dollar will decline to the point where a controlled crisis will erupt, threatening to collapse the entire American economy, and of course, the entire global economy. Just before the collapse is to occur, some brilliant politician will propose that the American Dollar be dissolved and melded into the new Amero.

This "brilliant concept" will gather instant steam, Congress will quickly pass the legislation and the President will sign it. The new Amero will be hailed as the economic savior of the world, and Americans will breathe a sigh of relief that their financial assets remain intact.

You can chalk this event up as the Illuminati stepping in to solve the very problem they created in the first place! And, the world will have taken a significant step forward in a global economy with a global currency.

NOTE: Yesterday, World Net Daily trumpeted a false story that the drive to NAFTA had stalled and was dead. The reason given was that Conservative pressure had derailed the plans of the Elite. Nothing could be further from the truth. This NAFTA union has been planned since the days of Sir Francis Bacon and Queen Elizabeth I, and will not be delayed nor derailed.

What this type of false story does accomplish is to disarm the Conservatives, causing them to cease their efforts against NAFTA. Do not be deceived on this most important issue.

IX. As Mass Media continues its daily mantra of bank liquidity crisis, let us take time to remember that this liquidity crisis does not affect the true foundational liquidity of this country.

America's financial foundation is a lot more firm and secure and funded than most people realize! This fact is THE reason the economy has not collapsed over the past 20 years.

We ran this article several weeks ago, but feel the need to post it again.

Far Greater Liquidity

Let us examine the reality that the Federal Government possesses far greater liquidity than we have been led to believe. We have all been so focused for so long on the Federal Deficits that we believe our government is nearly broke.

Not only is this untrue, but it is the reason that foreign companies have continued to buy our Treasury Bond Offerings every year.

Have you ever heard of C.A.F.R.?

These letters stand for "Comprehensive Annual Financial Report". Most people have never heard of these financial reports which all local and state governments must file. Go to Google, and type in 'C.A.F.R." You will be shocked to see almost 8 million entries pop up!

Let us explain further.

NEWS BRIEF: "CAFR Simplified", by [email protected], January 1, 2001

"There are over 85,000 local government Incs, each with their own revenue and investments. When looking at each, say Manhattan 1.2 Trillion, NY Throughway 31 billion, NJ State 384 billion, Orange County 21 billion, we have just listed 4 of the 85,000 and here is 1.636 trillion. Now think about the other 84,996 local government entities .... Local Governments total up to about 44 trillion, Federal to about 16 trillion. Total: 60 Trillion Dollars."

Did you know that all governments -- Local, State, and Federal -- have combined assets of $60 Trillion? The Doom and Gloom people who make a living plying their trade through fear do not want you to know these facts, because it means the United States is a lot more financially liquid than most people have ever realized.

Therefore, when you read a scary statistic that the Home Mortgage industry is 200 billion dollars in the hole, let that not scare you too much, for that number, as huge as it is, pales to insignificance to the 60 trillion dollars which is in the system; according to the above statistic, the Federal Government alone has 16 tillion dollars at its disposal.

Now, you can see why Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke can be so relaxed when he guarantees that the Fed will prevent a recession, or worse, a depression. We quoted Bernanke earlier as he said the key to prevent a severe downturn was to keep sufficient liquidity in the marketplace. The above figures demonstrates that the Fed has sufficient reserves to do just that.

Let us examine more statistics:

"Total personal income, 1999, from all people in the USA was 8.2 trillion dollars. (SOURCE: Note section of the; Federal Combined Financial Statement, Treasury Department, 1999; Ibid.))

" Approximate taxation both local and federal, 1999, 3.4 trillion dollars. Composite governments 'gross income',, (from) 'all sources', 8.5 trillion dollars." (Ibid.)

What is the purpose of accumulating this kind of wealth? To allow the Illuminati to completely control the economy and bring it to the place its agenda stipulates, without the vast majority of its citizens ever understanding what is going on.

Thus, you can see how the Federal Reserve can inject the kind of liquidity in the marketplace it needs to inject in order to keep the economy running along -- no matter what the "gloom and doom" naysayers are saying.

The peoples of the North American Continent are heading directly for the imposition of the NAFTA nation, and the creation of the Amero currency is a key factor. But, first, the American Dollar must be brought into a controlled descent.

If you want more information of C.A.F.R., please click to this article from the Idaho Observer, the news source which originally broke the story about Depleted Uranium.

NEWS BRIEF: "Regarding CAFRs? Silence is golden", The Idaho Observer, 10/21/06


Note: For those of you that read the whole page and read about the freemasonry..... I've heard that quite a bit and could not understand it...... my dad has been a mason since 1966 there isn't anything in the book that is Satanic and I myself have been in Job's Daughters and a member of the OES since I was 18 and there's nothing satanic there......... but in reading this site I found this (which makes sense because Satan works in the dark, unseen) here's the link: http://www.cuttingedge.org/free001a.html
 

Texan

Well-known member
MoGal said:
For those of you that read the whole page and read about the freemasonry..... I've heard that quite a bit and could not understand it...... my dad has been a mason since 1966 there isn't anything in the book that is Satanic and I myself have been in Job's Daughters and a member of the OES since I was 18 and there's nothing satanic there.....
Doesn't that indicate to you that not everything that you read on some of these websites is true?


MoGal said:
.... but in reading this site I found this (which makes sense because Satan works in the dark, unseen) here's the link: http://www.cuttingedge.org/free001a.html
Yes, it's true - there IS an invisible society. The fact that nobody has ever heard of it proves that it's true. Right? :roll:
 

Texan

Well-known member
From MoGal's article:

Did you know that all governments -- Local, State, and Federal -- have combined assets of $60 Trillion? The Doom and Gloom people who make a living plying their trade through fear do not want you to know these facts, because it means the United States is a lot more financially liquid than most people have ever realized.

Therefore, when you read a scary statistic that the Home Mortgage industry is 200 billion dollars in the hole, let that not scare you too much, for that number, as huge as it is, pales to insignificance to the 60 trillion dollars which is in the system; according to the above statistic, the Federal Government alone has 16 tillion dollars at its disposal.

Now, you can see why Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke can be so relaxed when he guarantees that the Fed will prevent a recession, or worse, a depression. We quoted Bernanke earlier as he said the key to prevent a severe downturn was to keep sufficient liquidity in the marketplace. The above figures demonstrates that the Fed has sufficient reserves to do just that.

Question for all of the doom and gloom bunch here:

Either the sky is falling or it's NOT falling. Which is it? I'm sure some of you have a ready explanation.

Or maybe instead of explanation, rationalization is a better word for it? Or would that imply being rational?
 

jigs

Well-known member
not sure what to think on this one....

I know there is a globalization line of thinking, but how does adding Mexico into this trade pac help us? with out offending any of the resident Canucks on here, I see no benefit from adding you either....

being seperate countries with good trade policies is good enough for me.

I would actually be very happy if we were an isolationist country, and ran this nation off of the constitution, and nothing more. use our military to push the Mexicans back across the border, and KEEP THEM THERE
the military could be used for drug enforcement, and border security.

NAFTA is a bad deal. we already take in more than we sell....so why sweeten the pot for everyone else??

as policy makers, the USA is inept,

what we really need is to wipe out D.C. and start over with fresh faces.
 

Texan

Well-known member
I hear ya, jigs. The older I get, the more isolationist I get. I think we need to try to get along with our neighbors, though. I don't have a problem with trade with Canada - or even Mexico - as long as it's fair.

I'm not sure what the current balance of trade is with the Canadians, but I'm sure somebody will tell me. I know it sure seems like Mexico is getting the better end of the deal, though.

It's way too late for isolationism to ever work, though, in my opinion. The two biggest obstacles are probably our lazy, spoiled population and our appetite for energy.

Even if we become self-sufficient with the energy part of it, we're still stuck with a population that wants everything cheap and easy - and getting worse with each generation.

Isolation requires a lot of sacrifices. I just can't see the average American willing to make those sacrifices.
 

Tex

Well-known member
MoGal said:
I posted about that on another thread OT, one that someone was talking about we needed immigrant workers for these poor poor millionaire farmers and they figured the costs of it to the taxpayers and it was not included if we had an amnesty program...........

Last night I found this site and was up late reading a lot of it (maybe why I've been so tired today) and for Christians it has quite a bit of insight and for nonchristains I'm sure they will poo poo it and say its conspiracy theory:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/112907.html
(its towards the bottom of the page)

VII. NAFTA continues to develop amidst great controversy amongst Conservatives.

This next article seems to indicate that the time for the implementation of the new currency, the 'AMERO' may be closer than you might think.

NEWS BRIEF: "Billionaire Tells Canada: Time for Amero is now", by Jerome Corsi, World Net Daily, November 27, 2007

"Stephen Jarislowsky, a billionaire money manager and investor the Canadian newspaper Globe and Mail bills as the Canadian Warren Buffet, has told a parliamentary committee Canada and the United States both should abandon their national dollar currencies and move to a regional North American currency as soon as possible."

Cutting Edge has been talking about the creation of NAFTA since late, 1993, when Congress passed the legislation under the leadership of President Bill Clinton and Former President George H.W. Bush (Sr.) (Read NEWS1002, "NAFTA: The Shocking 'Rest of the Story' ").

We have also demonstrated that the concept for a union of North America and South America, each one in its own sphere, was planned four hundred years ago, by Sir Francis Bacon and Queen Elizabeth II. A Plan which has been carried forward for that many centuries is a Plan backed by the most powerful and wicked people on earth -- the Illuminati.

Let us now return back to this featured news article.

" 'I think we have to really seriously start thinking of the model of a continental currency just like Europe', Jarislowsky told the Canadian House of Commons' finance committee, according to the Globe and Mail in Toronto ... In an exclusive telephone interview with WND, Jarislowsky repeated his call for a European Union-style currency to be created between Canada and the United States.

" 'The idea would be a European Union-type set-up', Jarislowsky said, 'with a North American Central Bank that would issue the new currency and sit over the Bank of Canada and the Federal Reserve Bank in the United States'."

Again, Cutting Edge has been warning for many years that the Amero currency will be modeled after the Euro, since that currency has proven to be highly successful. The key to establishing the Amero currency is to "create the problem" first which will "require" some dramatic change.

Of course, the controlled fall of the American Dollar fits that bill exactly! For about two decades now, the American Dollar has been carefully managed so that its value will fall. This decline has been increasingly precipitous since January, 2007, when some countries like Iran and Russia began switching to other currencies as they sold their oil on the international market.

Some day, the fall of the American Dollar will decline to the point where a controlled crisis will erupt, threatening to collapse the entire American economy, and of course, the entire global economy. Just before the collapse is to occur, some brilliant politician will propose that the American Dollar be dissolved and melded into the new Amero.

This "brilliant concept" will gather instant steam, Congress will quickly pass the legislation and the President will sign it. The new Amero will be hailed as the economic savior of the world, and Americans will breathe a sigh of relief that their financial assets remain intact.

You can chalk this event up as the Illuminati stepping in to solve the very problem they created in the first place! And, the world will have taken a significant step forward in a global economy with a global currency.

NOTE: Yesterday, World Net Daily trumpeted a false story that the drive to NAFTA had stalled and was dead. The reason given was that Conservative pressure had derailed the plans of the Elite. Nothing could be further from the truth. This NAFTA union has been planned since the days of Sir Francis Bacon and Queen Elizabeth I, and will not be delayed nor derailed.

What this type of false story does accomplish is to disarm the Conservatives, causing them to cease their efforts against NAFTA. Do not be deceived on this most important issue.

IX. As Mass Media continues its daily mantra of bank liquidity crisis, let us take time to remember that this liquidity crisis does not affect the true foundational liquidity of this country.

America's financial foundation is a lot more firm and secure and funded than most people realize! This fact is THE reason the economy has not collapsed over the past 20 years.

We ran this article several weeks ago, but feel the need to post it again.

Far Greater Liquidity

Let us examine the reality that the Federal Government possesses far greater liquidity than we have been led to believe. We have all been so focused for so long on the Federal Deficits that we believe our government is nearly broke.

Not only is this untrue, but it is the reason that foreign companies have continued to buy our Treasury Bond Offerings every year.

Have you ever heard of C.A.F.R.?

These letters stand for "Comprehensive Annual Financial Report". Most people have never heard of these financial reports which all local and state governments must file. Go to Google, and type in 'C.A.F.R." You will be shocked to see almost 8 million entries pop up!

Let us explain further.

NEWS BRIEF: "CAFR Simplified", by [email protected], January 1, 2001

"There are over 85,000 local government Incs, each with their own revenue and investments. When looking at each, say Manhattan 1.2 Trillion, NY Throughway 31 billion, NJ State 384 billion, Orange County 21 billion, we have just listed 4 of the 85,000 and here is 1.636 trillion. Now think about the other 84,996 local government entities .... Local Governments total up to about 44 trillion, Federal to about 16 trillion. Total: 60 Trillion Dollars."

Did you know that all governments -- Local, State, and Federal -- have combined assets of $60 Trillion? The Doom and Gloom people who make a living plying their trade through fear do not want you to know these facts, because it means the United States is a lot more financially liquid than most people have ever realized.

Therefore, when you read a scary statistic that the Home Mortgage industry is 200 billion dollars in the hole, let that not scare you too much, for that number, as huge as it is, pales to insignificance to the 60 trillion dollars which is in the system; according to the above statistic, the Federal Government alone has 16 tillion dollars at its disposal.

Now, you can see why Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke can be so relaxed when he guarantees that the Fed will prevent a recession, or worse, a depression. We quoted Bernanke earlier as he said the key to prevent a severe downturn was to keep sufficient liquidity in the marketplace. The above figures demonstrates that the Fed has sufficient reserves to do just that.

Let us examine more statistics:

"Total personal income, 1999, from all people in the USA was 8.2 trillion dollars. (SOURCE: Note section of the; Federal Combined Financial Statement, Treasury Department, 1999; Ibid.))

" Approximate taxation both local and federal, 1999, 3.4 trillion dollars. Composite governments 'gross income',, (from) 'all sources', 8.5 trillion dollars." (Ibid.)

What is the purpose of accumulating this kind of wealth? To allow the Illuminati to completely control the economy and bring it to the place its agenda stipulates, without the vast majority of its citizens ever understanding what is going on.

Thus, you can see how the Federal Reserve can inject the kind of liquidity in the marketplace it needs to inject in order to keep the economy running along -- no matter what the "gloom and doom" naysayers are saying.

The peoples of the North American Continent are heading directly for the imposition of the NAFTA nation, and the creation of the Amero currency is a key factor. But, first, the American Dollar must be brought into a controlled descent.

If you want more information of C.A.F.R., please click to this article from the Idaho Observer, the news source which originally broke the story about Depleted Uranium.

NEWS BRIEF: "Regarding CAFRs? Silence is golden", The Idaho Observer, 10/21/06


Note: For those of you that read the whole page and read about the freemasonry..... I've heard that quite a bit and could not understand it...... my dad has been a mason since 1966 there isn't anything in the book that is Satanic and I myself have been in Job's Daughters and a member of the OES since I was 18 and there's nothing satanic there......... but in reading this site I found this (which makes sense because Satan works in the dark, unseen) here's the link: http://www.cuttingedge.org/free001a.html
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I just read you last link, Mogal, and I think it could explain the structure of the NCBA. I think there are a lot of people in NCBA that are mislead by the inner core who make the rules and the policy that is detrimental to the cattlemen and the good will they bring. It is the same when I look at some of the other livestock organizations and even the former largest Farmer poultry Co -op , Goldkist.

The same thing is happening in the republicans party with the leadership. I wouldn't question Soapweed, or others on this site with their republicanism, for instance, but I really do question what is happening in D.C. , the Justice Dept, the Agriculture Dept, the fake attempts of the leadership (according to David Kwo, is it?) to incorporate the compassionate side of Christianity into policy in the Bush Administration.

Although I am not really freaked out about a second coming of Christ, I am worried about some of the things like NAIS, the total misinformation, face news, and the masses just being lead on. I am also worried about what is happening to our country and the enforcement of the laws of the land, our deals with communist china, our hypocrisy on war and spreding democracy and freedom through force, and corporate america's willingness to sell out our democracy for a buck and politicians who allow it.

A little truth coming to the surface wouldn't hurt any of us. It is getting way too much like George Orwell's 1984.
 

MoGal

Well-known member
Although I am not really freaked out about a second coming of Christ, I am worried about some of the things like NAIS, the total misinformation, face news, and the masses just being lead on. I am also worried about what is happening to our country and the enforcement of the laws of the land, our deals with communist china, our hypocrisy on war and spreding democracy and freedom through force, and corporate america's willingness to sell out our democracy for a buck and politicians who allow it.
I know myself these are some of the reasons I started doing so much search on the net. I don't like what is going on in our country. I'm not happy with Congress or the President or his VP. I'm tired of greed. Guiliana has said we are a "service economy" and I DON"T want the USA to be a service economy. I'm tired of the mindset, "evil is good and good is evil".

Texan: I've never heard of the CAFR, but I do intend to search it somemore. In order to bring in the Amero and North American Union they do know the people will not accept it willingly unless there is catastrophic dire circumstances going on, what better way than to (supposedly) crash the economy and inflation??

Jigs: Canada has resources: water, oil and minerals and Mexico provides cheap labor is the reason IMO.

I don't know about the Masonic because like I said above. We all know there is witchcraft and devil worshipping..... just because its not listed in the newspaper along with the church services doesn't mean it don't exist.
 

Steve

Well-known member
Term limits would solve most of what is wrong in DC

and banning the use of eminate domain for private corporation use would allow private citizens to stop most mega progects...
 

Tex

Well-known member
Steve said:
Term limits would solve most of what is wrong in DC

and banning the use of eminate domain for private corporation use would allow private citizens to stop most mega progects...

If they have term limits for legislators, they should have them for lobbyists.

Imminent Domain should never have been used for private corporation's benefit. Another big mistake by the current Supreme Court who showed their corporatist bent.
 

Steve

Well-known member
tex
Imminent Domain should never have been used for private corporation's benefit. Another big mistake by the current Supreme Court who showed their corporatist bent.


don't you mean "Imminent Domain should never have been used for private corporation's benefit. Another big mistake by the "Liberal" judges on the Supreme Court who showed their corporatist bent".


Those who sold out....
Stevens was joined in the majority by Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer.



Those who stood up for property owners...
O'Connor was joined in her dissent by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.
 

Tex

Well-known member
Steve said:
tex
Imminent Domain should never have been used for private corporation's benefit. Another big mistake by the current Supreme Court who showed their corporatist bent.


don't you mean "Imminent Domain should never have been used for private corporation's benefit. Another big mistake by the "Liberal" judges on the Supreme Court who showed their corporatist bent".


Those who sold out....
Stevens was joined in the majority by Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer.



Those who stood up for property owners...
O'Connor was joined in her dissent by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.

Sure I will go with that. It only takes a majority, and they had it.
 
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