Sorry I didn't see these comments so I will address them now.
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No i think profit would out wiegh quality..just like a bank even the ink in the pens will be a cost to you.....
Again with the I think and In MY opinion. :roll: Nonothing look at what is happening in our system now, the GOVERNMENT is cutting the cost and by doing so they are affecting the QUALITY OF CARE. If a private business who was in competition with another hospital cut the quality of their care provided as much as this government has been forced to to keep down cost they would be out of business as nobody would walk through their doors as they would be going down the street to the better hospital just like Canadians are now going to the US for the care they need to save their lives. [/b]
Why would anyone want their health care handled by a big business mentality...Boittom line dollar not,care will always be the answer...They just built a big brand new regional hospital and cancer hospital here in BC ...If they were cutting cost why the new hospital?....And it is huge....
Right so a busier hospital would charge less then a rual medi center as number of visits would be much higher...Cost just to have heat,light and water would bankrupt smaller centers....
Why are they busier Nonothing could it be they are the hospital that are providing the quality of care the patients want. If the smaller clinic want to survive they are going to have to COMPETE just like small business compete to grow and become bigger that's the FREE MARKET WORLD way. Problem with you socialists you don't want anyone to have to work to better themselves you just want to take from the rich to prop up the inefficient.
The busier hospitals are busier Tam simply on population numbers around them,there are just more people that would need it,not because the hospital is any better..A small town hospital cannot maintain the same care as a city hospital because of shear volumes of those that could pay into each as a community based hospital....Why should a bigger community pay for smaller community users if thats how hospitals are funded......and if you pay your small health center community fees yet need to be sent else where,should you not be charged more for your stay at the city hospital as you have not paid a cent to use that facilty under the community owned you are now on plan?
yes I understand that charity is part and parcel with government funds,but it will not be enough on its own....If you need to fly to regina cause your to sick to drive.who pays,you?..
First of all we don't fly as we do not have that option in Sask. :wink: But went I ride in and ambulance
YES I pay, or at least my insurance company does as you see nonothing that is not part of our universal health care. It may be in BC and Alberta where Mrs Greg lives but not here in Sask where 1 million Sask citizens live. So much for UNIVERSAL CARE. Does our health care pay for people going to the US to get the treatment they need
NO the patient is required to pay full amount for something that the Government here couldn't provide in time to save the persons life.
IS that right, when the person already paid the tax bill that should have covered the cost of the treatment here in Canada??????? That person got hit twice and that doesn't seem to bother you but yet somebody in the US having to pay
once for their health care sure seems to. :roll:
Yes our health care will pay if a doctor sends them to the usa for medical assitance...Well Tam I would suggest to you ,before you go down to the USA on your death bed like so many around you must be.try comming to bc and show up to emergency and they will take you in and save your life ...If you are to sick to go on,you will be taken care of here...Over the millions of positive stories our sytems creates everyday,I guess i should not be surprised that a few sad stories still happen along the way....Yes thats not fair and hopefully it one day will have no sad stories....
What makes them ineffient now?...what more can be done to make them more effient...Less pay for doctors maybe?More rooms but no one can afford to use them?
Since I have never seen the books of a hospital all I could give is my opinion but since that is all you work in is opinion here's mine. :wink: Take a long hard look at the government bureaucracy that we have running our system Would we need all those pencil pushers if we had Private run or Community run Health care. Just what do you think they cost compared to a few more good doctors and a few more beds filled with PAYING PATIENTS would cost?
You would have less beds and more decisions about saving lifes in the hands of board members then doctors....Profit would become number one.Care would become secondary..More work for less people ,causing more errors .The poor would become sicker,the spread of decease would run rampant and prifit hospitals would do nothing to stop th
Yes I understand that but to privatise the health industry would then make it impossible for sick Canadians to afford health care.Recieving quality care would go out the window and the price of mediction would skyrocket....Any senior would be stuck paying for 100% pharmacutical products that they just can not afford.........the number one thing in business is profit ,the more the better.You think care will be at the forefront,you are fooling yourself...
INSURANCE nonothing ever heard of it. Everyone needs to take care of themselves by buying insurance to cover all their health care needs . And you seem to forget One of the biggest problems we have is sick Canadians that are not getting the treatment they need and they have already PAID FOR IT :roll: They are going to the US and paying AGAIN can they afford that? Answer me nonothing you keep ducking this fact, can Canadians afford to pay TWICE for life saving health care treatment. BTW isn't not impossible to get care as it is provided to those who need it in the US and they don't have Universal health care.
You talk about goverment pencil pushers try sorting through a pleathra of insurance companies every day...Hospital papper work would rise a 100% and they would charge for the pencil pushing time...Plus any precondtioned person would in some cases not even quailfy for insurance or be forced to pay higher costs,thats not fair to a little child with asthma...
Goverment subsidizes pentioners medication under our system the elderly would have to pay for their own medication under big business rule.....
I happen to think My GP is a fantastic doctor and if he charged more he could but he would see less people and therfore make less money...
If he is so fantastic why do you want to limit his pay scale? Don't you care about him as much as he apparently cares about you? :? My guess is that if he is so fantastic if he was charging a higher fee you might not pay it but one of the 4 million that don't have a doctor in Canada would pay for his services. Again nonothing you get what you pay for. And in a free market world if you don't pay someone will, that is supply and demand. I doubt the doctor would be making less he would be the winner. And we might see more doctors sticking around verses heading south where they can charge for the services they provide. :wink:
No as most patients would not be able to pay his costs they,would not go in.......They would wait till they got sick enough and the go to hospital.....Gp's would become a thing of the past..the middle would become elminated as there would be zero money for it to survive...
So your saying if you had to pay for the blood to be shipped to another place and back it would be faster...I do not see how lab work can go any faster ...All your doing is paying more for it to be done....
BINGO I have had the exact same test done in the US, had the test results back in about ten minutes and paid for ONE OFFICE VISIT , In Canada the blood it shipped away with a cost of shipping and handling, then results are sent back and I had to return to the doctor a week later to get the results which resulted in a second office visit to be charged to the Government. If I had been working in an office somewhere I would have had to have a second day off to get the results which is an inconvenience to my employer. Which way was cost efficient nonothing, Ten minutes and one office visit charge or a week and time off for two office visits?