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Lonecowboy

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There are a few people on here that believe obama was properly investigated and vetted and is legally qualified to be the POTUS.

Here's my question for you:

What would it hurt then if obama is on the up and up for him to release any and all documents, say to WND, Orly Taitz, whomever and let them be investigated??

With a name like his, his facial features, and occupation, it isn't like he has to fear identity theft or anything!

According to you all this information has been seen by people in the know, so why not let the rest of us in on it so we can put this matter to rest.
 

nonothing

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Lonecowboy said:
There are a few people on here that believe obama was properly investigated and vetted and is legally qualified to be the POTUS.

Here's my question for you:

What would it hurt then if obama is on the up and up for him to release any and all documents, say to WND, Orly Taitz, whomever and let them be investigated??

With a name like his, his facial features, and occupation, it isn't like he has to fear identity theft or anything!

According to you all this information has been seen by people in the know, so why not let the rest of us in on it so we can put this matter to rest.

I personally think anytime a leader caves into pressure from the wing nuts it opens him up for anything after that.....People start making demads upon your president on personal matters after the fact, I think sets a bad precident.....I also think it wont stop there.it already has gone from his BC to his college education,what next his medical records?....Once you cave in you become a target and in my opinion look very week also as a leader....IMHO
 

Lonecowboy

Well-known member
nonothing said:
Lonecowboy said:
There are a few people on here that believe obama was properly investigated and vetted and is legally qualified to be the POTUS.

Here's my question for you:

What would it hurt then if obama is on the up and up for him to release any and all documents, say to WND, Orly Taitz, whomever and let them be investigated??

With a name like his, his facial features, and occupation, it isn't like he has to fear identity theft or anything!

According to you all this information has been seen by people in the know, so why not let the rest of us in on it so we can put this matter to rest.

I personally think anytime a leader caves into pressure from the wing nuts it opens him up for anything after that.....People start making demads upon your president on personal matters after the fact, I think sets a bad precident.....I also think it wont stop there.it already has gone from his BC to his college education,what next his medical records?....Once you cave in you become a target and in my opinion look very week also as a leader....IMHO

OK nono, that is a plausable answer, I guess now I'm wondering how it makes him appear stronger, and what kind of precedence he is setting, with several in the military questioning his authority as CIC, and the military caving in and recinding orders.
Doesn't that just make the issue look more believable??
 

nonothing

Well-known member
Lonecowboy said:
nonothing said:
Lonecowboy said:
There are a few people on here that believe obama was properly investigated and vetted and is legally qualified to be the POTUS.

Here's my question for you:

What would it hurt then if obama is on the up and up for him to release any and all documents, say to WND, Orly Taitz, whomever and let them be investigated??

With a name like his, his facial features, and occupation, it isn't like he has to fear identity theft or anything!

According to you all this information has been seen by people in the know, so why not let the rest of us in on it so we can put this matter to rest.

I personally think anytime a leader caves into pressure from the wing nuts it opens him up for anything after that.....People start making demads upon your president on personal matters after the fact, I think sets a bad precident.....I also think it wont stop there.it already has gone from his BC to his college education,what next his medical records?....Once you cave in you become a target and in my opinion look very week also as a leader....IMHO

OK nono, that is a plausable answer, I guess now I'm wondering how it makes him appear stronger, and what kind of precedence he is setting, with several in the military questioning his authority as CIC, and the military caving in and recinding orders.
Doesn't that just make the issue look more believable??

You remember when GW said there was no WMD's in Iraq...he never caved in and took a ton of heat.....So he could of caved in but he didnt....Once a decision is made to stop just because some are not satisfied is a sign of weakness....

obama had to prove his elligabilty to be president....that should be trusted.but because a few do not trust it,word spreads..I would not show my hand either in this card game and just like GW it came out in his favour...
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
"obama had to prove his elligabilty to be president....that should be trusted.but because a few do not trust it,word spreads..I would not show it till show my hand either in this card game and just like GW it came out in his favour..."

Exactly when and to whom did Obama prove his eligibility?
 

nonothing

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
"obama had to prove his elligabilty to be president....that should be trusted.but because a few do not trust it,word spreads..I would not show it till show my hand either in this card game and just like GW it came out in his favour..."

Exactly when and to whom did Obama prove his eligibility?


See this is why there is no sense in showing.there will always be those who hate that will question...they just move on to the next thing over and over.
 

alice

Well-known member
Lonecowboy said:
There are a few people on here that believe obama was properly investigated and vetted and is legally qualified to be the POTUS.

Here's my question for you:

What would it hurt then if obama is on the up and up for him to release any and all documents, say to WND, Orly Taitz, whomever and let them be investigated??

With a name like his, his facial features, and occupation, it isn't like he has to fear identity theft or anything!

According to you all this information has been seen by people in the know, so why not let the rest of us in on it so we can put this matter to rest.

Would you believe it?

I agree with nonothing...he's been vetted...he's shown his birth certificate. If he caves, where will it ever stop. It won't...'cause the birthers won't accept or believe the evidence.

Alice
 

hypocritexposer

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Nonothing he doesn't nedd to prove or disprove anything.

Barack Obama has proudly and publicly stated that his father was a citizen of Kenya. We know his mother was eigteen years old when he was born. These two facts make Obama ineligible to be president. No birth certificate is needed as proof, and it doesn't matter at all where Obama was born. His father's non-citizenship is all the law requires.

Those that you claim to have seen documentation ignored the Constitional requirement.

Article 2, section 1 of the Constitution states, "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president; neither shall any person be eligible who shall not attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United Satates."


The addition of a grandfather clause in this paragraph says a lot as to the meaning of natural born. The first thing it says is that being born in the US is not enough to be natural born, otherwise the grandfather clause would not be necessary.

The writers and delegates, having been born in the US, wanted to be eligible for the presidency, but most were the children of British subjects. Knowing that that eliminated them from being natural born and, thus, from eligibility, they included the grandfather clause which expired when the last person alive at the time of the ratification of the Constitution died. So, being a native born citizen is not the same as being natural born. If it were the framers would not have included the clause
 

alice

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Nonothing he doesn't nedd to prove or disprove anything.

Barack Obama has proudly and publicly stated that his father was a citizen of Kenya. We know his mother was eigteen years old when he was born. These two facts make Obama ineligible to be president. No birth certificate is needed as proof, and it doesn't matter at all where Obama was born. His father's non-citizenship is all the law requires.

Those that you claim to have seen documentation ignored the Constitional requirement.

Article 2, section 1 of the Constitution states, "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president; neither shall any person be eligible who shall not attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United Satates."


The addition of a grandfather clause in this paragraph says a lot as to the meaning of natural born. The first thing it says is that being born in the US is not enough to be natural born, otherwise the grandfather clause would not be necessary.

The writers and delegates, having been born in the US, wanted to be eligible for the presidency, but most were the children of British subjects. Knowing that that eliminated them from being natural born and, thus, from eligibility, they included the grandfather clause which expired when the last person alive at the time of the ratification of the Constitution died. So, being a native born citizen is not the same as being natural born. If it were the framers would not have included the clause

This is not true. Again, folks, go to the Obama Conspiracy website. http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/

Read for yourselves...then agree or disagree...it's all up to you.

Alice
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
So now you believe in blogs more so than the Founding Fathers, when it comes to their intentions of writing in the grandfather clause?

How about I turn that question around on you.

People that actually read and search http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/
can make up their own minds. I'm not gonna spoon feed it...

Alice
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
This is an independent blog about conspiracy theories and fringe views related to Barack Obama. The views expressed here have no endorsement from any political party or government organization.

I think I'll stick with the SCOTUS and Congress.
 

alice

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
This is an independent blog about conspiracy theories and fringe views related to Barack Obama. The views expressed here have no endorsement from any political party or government organization.

I think I'll stick with the SCOTUS and Congress.

Cool...that's definitely your choice. But there may be more explanation to it

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/

than simply "sticking with the SCOTUS and Congress" as you depict it... and that's up to everyone else to decide...don't you agree?

Alice
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Sure do. But it doesn't change the facts.

a dual citizen cannot be a "Natural Born Citizen", neither can a naturalized citizen.

Unless the Constitution is amended, Arnold will never be President.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
nonothing said:
Sandhusker said:
"obama had to prove his elligabilty to be president....that should be trusted.but because a few do not trust it,word spreads..I would not show it till show my hand either in this card game and just like GW it came out in his favour..."

Exactly when and to whom did Obama prove his eligibility?


See this is why there is no sense in showing.there will always be those who hate that will question...they just move on to the next thing over and over.

See, a statement with no basis in fact and a declarer who, to no surpise, danced around a simple question.
 

nonothing

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
nonothing said:
Sandhusker said:
"obama had to prove his elligabilty to be president....that should be trusted.but because a few do not trust it,word spreads..I would not show it till show my hand either in this card game and just like GW it came out in his favour..."

Exactly when and to whom did Obama prove his eligibility?


See this is why there is no sense in showing.there will always be those who hate that will question...they just move on to the next thing over and over.

See, a statement with no basis in fact and a declarer who, to no surpise, danced around a simple question.

Again sandhusker,you just keep proving my point.....
 

alice

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Sure do. But it doesn't change the facts.

a dual citizen cannot be a "Natural Born Citizen", neither can a naturalized citizen.

Unless the Constitution is amended, Arnold will never be President.

Of course Arnold will never be President. Neither of his parents were U.S. citizens when he was born...and he was born in Austria. Doesn't take a constitutional amendment to address that...

Alice
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Nonothing can you let us all know why there is a bill in Congress right now to see presidential documents (birth certificate etc), if it is already being done?
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
nonothing said:
Sandhusker said:
nonothing said:
See this is why there is no sense in showing.there will always be those who hate that will question...they just move on to the next thing over and over.

See, a statement with no basis in fact and a declarer who, to no surpise, danced around a simple question.

Again sandhusker,you just keep proving my point.....

You made a statement. You can't back up that statement. You have no point, but you have made a statement for all to see.........
 
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