For Those Pro-Abortion Folks

[Mike]

(CNSNews.com) – On the last day of testimony before the prosecution rests in the murder trial of abortionist Kermit Gosnell, a former worker at Gosnell's clinic testified that she saw one late-term baby who survived an abortion "swimming" in a toilet and "trying to get out."

Kareema Cross, a "medical assistant" who worked at Gosnell's Women's Medical Society clinic for four-and-a-half years, testified in a Philadelphia court today, telling of the horrors of babies who survived abortions only to have their necks snipped with scissors.

"Did you ever see those babies move?" asked Prosecutor Joanne Pescatore.

"Yes, once in the toilet," said Cross.

The baby "was like swimming," she said. "Basically, trying to get out."

Adrienne Moton, an employee at the clinic, then took the baby and snipped the back of its neck while the mother was still in the room.

Cross told the jury that when Shayquana Abrams came into the clinic in July 2008 she was pregnant, "and she was big."

"That was the largest baby I ever saw," Cross said.

When the baby was born alive, Abrams was sleeping. Cross said Dr. Gosnell took the baby boy, which she described as 12 to 18 inches long, and put him inside a plastic container the size of a shoebox.

"The baby was still breathing," she said. "He didn't cut the neck right there."

The baby was too big for the plastic container, with his arms and legs hanging over the sides.

"The Doctor cut the back of the baby's neck but didn't do suction—normally Dr. Gosnell would do suction … to suck the brains out," Cross said.

"I called people over to come see it [the baby] and we took pictures," she said.


Baby Boy A, allegedly killed after being born alive and then having his spinal cord cut at the abortion office of Dr. Kermit Gosnell. (AP)

The baby boy had curled himself into the fetal position and laid on his side in the box. An image of the baby taken by Cross was shown to the court, showing him laying lifeless on his side. (the photo of the infant, Baby A, is included in the Grand Jury Report and is posted in this article.)

"It was supposed to go upstairs in the freezer, but it was still there the next day because the janitor complained," Cross added.

She said Dr. Gosnell told her "the baby is big enough that it could walk to the store or the bus stop."

Eventually the baby boy went in the freezer, Cross said.

Abrams was 17 when she went to the Women's Medical Society for a late-term abortion on

July, 12, 2008. Earlier in the trial, Abrams testified that she was 29 weeks (slightly more than 7 months) pregnant and that the abortion sent her to the hospital for two weeks with complications, including a blood clot in her heart. Abortions after 24 weeks are illegal in Pennsylvania.

Cross also testified that she witnessed Steven Massof, an unlicensed medical school graduate who worked at the clinic, snip babies necks (spinal cords) 25 to 30 times.

Cross said she saw babies that were still breathing after botched abortions at least 10 times. Dr. Gosnell would cut the back of their necks with scissors, she said.

"He just said they're not breathing," Cross said.


The abortion clinic, Women's Medical Society, operated by Dr. Kermit Gosnell at 3801-05 Lancaster Avenue, Philadelphia, Penn. (Grand Jury Report)

"Linda's baby," as described by the prosecution, was also still alive following an abortion, moving its arm back and forth. Cross said the baby was breathing for 10 to 20 minutes before its neck was cut with scissors.

On another occasion, Cross said she heard a "soft whine," or whimper coming from a baby in another other room.

Cross took photographs of the clinic in 2008 out of concern. The photographs, shown in the courtroom, depicted over 50 jars filled with baby's feet stored at the clinic, which Gosnell said he was keeping for "DNA purposes."

More photos showed bloody equipment, and Gosnell's cat sleeping on a chair at the clinic. The cat would roam freely, even in the procedure rooms, and go to the bathroom on the first and second floor, Cross said.

The trial of Gosnell, 72, in the Philadelphia Court of Common Pleas is currently in its fifth week. He is charged with seven counts of first-degree murder (seven babies), one count of third-degree murder of a mother, as well as infanticide, conspiracy, abortion at 24 or more weeks, abuse of a corpse, theft, corruption of minors, solicitation and other related offenses.

 

[101]

This stuff is hard to read , To think this can happen in the USA, no matter how this trial ends this guy will burn in hell for ever! Good luck 101

 

[hypocritexposer]

This stuff is hard to read , To think this can happen in the USA, no matter how this trial ends this guy will burn in hell for ever! Good luck 101

they are rearely inspected/regulated and with obama on the job, it's been one long "coffee break", for those that would inspect/regulate his key policy and agenda objectives.

If regulation will hinder his agenda, it doesn't take place. If it will help his agenda, he expands it, at the expense of the american public.

Worst President evah. Maybe one of the World's worst leaders evah.

 

[Mike]

OT doesn't have the guts to address this. Coward!

 

[cowman52]

Joseph Mengle reincarnated.

 

[Mike]

Joseph Mengle reincarnated.

True, but Obama speaks out to the nation on Trayvon Martin and the old racist bastard at his "Beer Summit".

Having a Nigga for president has been a failure!

 

[Whitewing]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised though I honestly had no idea this sort of shyt was taking place in America. Maybe I just didn't want to think it was possible that it could actually be taking place.

As Hypo said, it's vacation time for regulation of these houses of horror....and I imagine it's been that way for many years. A line needs to be drawn.

Maybe Wright was right, God Damn America.

 

[Steve]

they are rearely inspected/regulated and with obama on the job, it's been one long "coffee break",

rarely.. how about NEVER.. ?

The report, which runs more than 200 pages, calls the department's actions "ineffectual."

After 1993, says the report, "The Pennsylvania Department of Health abruptly decided, for political reasons, to stop inspecting abortion clinics at all."

The report noted, "Even nail salons in Pennsylvania are monitored more closely for client safety," and accused the Department of Helath of showing an "utter disregard" for the safety of women and their unborn children.

"Most appalling of all," said the Grand Jury, "the Department of Health's neglect of abortion patients' safety and of Pennsylvania laws is clearly not inadvertent: It is by design."

so since 93 doctors could get away with murder,.. and did..

this isn't the only clinic.. it may be the worse.. but there are many others that are not inspected nor regulated in the liberal northeast..

 

[Whitewing]

they are rearely inspected/regulated and with obama on the job, it's been one long "coffee break",

rarely.. how about NEVER.. ?

The report, which runs more than 200 pages, calls the department's actions "ineffectual."

After 1993, says the report, "The Pennsylvania Department of Health abruptly decided, for political reasons, to stop inspecting abortion clinics at all."

The report noted, "Even nail salons in Pennsylvania are monitored more closely for client safety," and accused the Department of Helath of showing an "utter disregard" for the safety of women and their unborn children.

"Most appalling of all," said the Grand Jury, "the Department of Health's neglect of abortion patients' safety and of Pennsylvania laws is clearly not inadvertent: It is by design."

so since 93 doctors could get away with murder,.. and did..

this isn't the only clinic.. it may be the worse.. but there are many others that are not inspected nor regulated in the liberal northeast..

Zackly. For POLITICAL REASONS. But call a spade a spade and see how holy hell will be brought down upon you.

 

[hypocritexposer]

I'm still waiting for OT to explain why 10% more women choose to take advantage of "thier choice" in the US, than the women in Canada? (per capita)

Maybe they are just more progressive, in the US, when it comes to killing babies, even though we have "unlimited abortions", in Canada. :roll:

 

[Triangle Bar]

I feel like puking my guts out after reading that.

I hope there is a special place in Hell for people like that so called 'doctor'.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Where is OT, Kola and Bullhauler and some of the other resident libs?

Maybe Alice would like to flit in and give a comment? :?

 

[Mike]

Where is OT, Kola and Bullhauler and some of the other resident libs?

Maybe Alice would like to flit in and give a comment? :?

http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html

Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America. Are we being targeted? Isn't that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues, by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated." Is her vision being fulfilled today?

They can't. Their racism would be exposed.

 

[Anonymous]

Abortion has been around since the earliest of times...The Code of Hammurabi, ca. 1760 BCE, had fines for abortion- with the amount varying according to the social rank of the woman.... The written evidence of abortion reflects the interests of class and caste- with most occurring in the poor and lower class's-- often as a way to survive...

Egyptian, Chinese, Greeks, Romans and from the earliest of Christians there have been reports/history of abortion... And of Infanticide and Neonaticide...
And again these were usually about the poor and lower class's...Even in the 19th & 20th century these methods of limiting family size because of food availability-- both during some of the early immigration days to the US, the Great Depression, and during WWI and II with starving refugees...

Its sad that class systems- and poor and downtrodden have existed since day one-- and that they have had to stoop to such methods to provide survival for themselves and their families-- but it has.... And I don't see it changing...

 

[Mike]

Abortion has been around since the earliest of times...The Code of Hammurabi, ca. 1760 BCE, had fines for abortion- with the amount varying according to the social rank of the woman.... The written evidence of abortion reflects the interests of class and caste- with most occurring in the poor and lower class's-- often as a way to survive...

Egyptian, Chinese, Greeks, Romans and from the earliest of Christians there have been reports/history of abortion... And of Infanticide and Neonaticide...
And again these were usually about the poor and lower class's...Even in the 19th & 20th century these methods of limiting family size because of food availability-- both during some of the early immigration days to the US, the Great Depression, and during WWI and II with starving refugees...

Its sad that class systems- and poor and downtrodden have existed since day one-- and that they have had to stoop to such methods to provide survival for themselves and their families-- but it has.... And I don't see it changing...

Would be a game changer had Eve gotten abortions cause her & Adam couldn't provide enough fig leaves to clothe the family. :roll:

Or, they could have done like Gosnell and kill them after they were born.

Maybe we should make it legal to kill our children until they get to age 12-14.

The we could weed out the unwanted, sickly, weak, and feeble minded and have more money to burn on ourselves?

 

[Steve]

Abortion has been around since the earliest of times...The Code of Hammurabi, ca. 1760 BCE, had fines for abortion- with the amount varying according to the social rank of the woman.... The written evidence of abortion reflects the interests of class and caste- with most occurring in the poor and lower class's-- often as a way to survive...

Egyptian, Chinese, Greeks, Romans and from the earliest of Christians there have been reports/history of abortion... And of Infanticide and Neonaticide...
And again these were usually about the poor and lower class's...Even in the 19th & 20th century these methods of limiting family size because of food availability-- both during some of the early immigration days to the US, the Great Depression, and during WWI and II with starving refugees...

Its sad that class systems- and poor and downtrodden have existed since day one-- and that they have had to stoop to such methods to provide survival for themselves and their families-- but it has.... And I don't see it changing...

and they call themselves "progressives" yet can't seem to step beyond their neanderthal ways.. :roll:

 

[redrobin]

f Christians there have been reports/history of abortion... .

Prove it and quote your source.

 

[Mike]

Its sad that class systems- and poor and downtrodden have existed since day one-- and that they have had to stoop to such methods to provide survival for themselves and their families-- but it has.... And I don't see it changing...

I'm throwing the BS flag on this one. My grandmother told me several times that folks during the depression had as many kids as possible to help them work the fields and such........................... :roll:

That may have happened up your way. But down here folks had more scruples.

 

[Anonymous]

f Christians there have been reports/history of abortion... .

Prove it and quote your source.

Early Christian texts


Tertullian, a 2nd- and 3rd-century Christian theologian, also described surgical implements which were used in a procedure similar to the modern dilation and evacuation. One tool had a "nicely-adjusted flexible frame" used for dilation, an "annular blade" used to curette, and a "blunted or covered hook" used for extraction. The other was a "copper needle or spike." He attributed ownership of such items to Hippocrates, Asclepiades, Erasistratus, Herophilus, and Soranus.[37]

Tertullian's description is prefaced as being used in cases in which abnormal positioning of the fetus in the womb would endanger the life of the pregnant women. Saint Augustine, in Enchiridion, makes passing mention of surgical procedures being performed to remove fetuses which have expired in utero.[38] Aulus Cornelius Celsus, a 1st century Roman encyclopedist, offers an extremely detailed account of a procedure to extract an already dead fetus in his only surviving work, De Medicina.[39]

In Book 9 of Refutation of all Heresies, Hippolytus of Rome, another Christian theologian of the 3rd century, wrote of women tightly binding themselves around the middle so as to "expel what was being conceived."[40]

In contrast to their pagan environment, Christians generally shunned abortion, drawing upon early Christian writings such as the Didache (c. 150 A.D.), which says: "…do not murder a child by abortion or kill a new-born infant."[41] Saint Augustine believed that abortion of a fetus animatus, a fetus with human limbs and shape, was murder. However, his beliefs on earlier-stage abortion were similar to Aristotle's,[42] though he could neither deny nor affirm whether such unformed fetuses would be resurrected as full people at the time of the second coming.[43]
"Now who is there that is not rather disposed to think that unformed abortions perish, like seeds that have never fructified?"[38]
"And therefore the following question may be very carefully inquired into and discussed by learned men, though I do not know whether it is in man's power to resolve it: At what time the infant begins to live in the womb: whether life exists in a latent form before it manifests itself in the motions of the living being. To deny that the young who are cut out limb by limb from the womb, lest if they were left there dead the mother should die too, have never been alive, seems too audacious."[44]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_abortion

 

[redrobin]

Abortion has been around since the earliest of times...The Code of Hammurabi, ca. 1760 BCE, had fines for abortion- with the amount varying according to the social rank of the woman.... The written evidence of abortion reflects the interests of class and caste- with most occurring in the poor and lower class's-- often as a way to survive...

Egyptian, Chinese, Greeks, Romans and from the earliest of Christians there have been reports/history of abortion... And of Infanticide and Neonaticide...
And again these were usually about the poor and lower class's...Even in the 19th & 20th century these methods of limiting family size because of food availability-- both during some of the early immigration days to the US, the Great Depression, and during WWI and II with starving refugees...

Its sad that class systems- and poor and downtrodden have existed since day one-- and that they have had to stoop to such methods to provide survival for themselves and their families-- but it has.... And I don't see it changing...

Are you saying Christians were among those trying to abort or are you just implying that?