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Sandhusker

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Do you remember this?;

~SH~ wrote:
Ahhh....what's wrong Sandbag? Can't back your position AGAIN?
What are we sending them now? Bring the data!
What do we normally send them? Bring the data!
Why are we sending them less? Bring the data!

Did I call the diversion or what? Gee as if Sandbag would actually back a position with supporting facts. Hahaha! Heaven forbid, he's an R-CULTer, what did you expect?


~SH~


I replied, "We sent them 160T in August, 1200T in Sept. We used to send them over 20,000T/mo. If you do the math, you will see that our Sept. shipments were only 6% of what we used to send. That's how Agman gets them to scrample - only cut loose 6%. If you cut the supply of pet boa constricors, some folks will be lining up for them, too."

"We are sending them less because the USDA forgot their "sound science" requirement they've been spouting off about and got us in a deal where we can't possibly supply what we used to."

"You wanted data from a R-CALF member? You got it. Now how are you going to make an ass out of yourself? Oooops foolish question, you've always succeeded before. I'm sure you'll find a way again."
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Let me recap;
1) You demanded proof of my statement.
2) You made an ass of yourself, per your custom.
3) I brought facts to prove my statement (which, incidentally, also proves you to be a liar since you've said that I never bring facts to back my statements)
4) You ran off, never to respond to that thread again.

Today, you're back demanding I back a statement and acting like an ass again and again and again. With the above posts as reference, why should I? You're a childish punk and you'll get treated as such. I'll tell you what I tell my 8 & 10 year olds since you're at their maturity level, YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE.
 

DiamondSCattleCo

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Forget it Sandhusker. SH isn't man enough to admit when he's wrong. He's on my ignore list now, as I haven't been able to get a lucid answer from him in months.

Rod
 
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Anonymous

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Little Sandcheska: "3) I brought facts to prove my statement (which, incidentally, also proves you to be a liar since you've said that I never bring facts to back my statements)"

I said you never bring facts to back your position. Your position on this issue is that USDA created the losses in our Japanese export markets by not allowing Creekstone to use fraudulent bse tests to ship cattle to Japan.

You didn't back that position by bringing supporting facts to prove that our Japanese markets would have normalized had USDA allowed Creekstone to use fraudulent bse testing.

To the contrary, Japan is now phasing out their own 100% bse testing program and nothing about 100% testing has been mentioned in recent negotiations proving USDA took the right position by not allowing Creekstone to use fraudulent bse testing.


To show what a damn hypocrite you are, your criticize NCBA continually then you use NCBA's $175 dollar per head figure on lost export value to Japan BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE at the time. You have absolutely no integrity, NONE! I've never seen or met anyone as deceptive as you are.

You and OT are lemming followers of the gospel according to R-CULT and you will twist, spin, lie, and deceive and do anything you can to support their views but you can't provide a single stitch of supporting facts to support their POSITIONS.

The fact is, R-CALF has lost every court case they have been involved in and you have all kinds of excuses for that too don't you?

This post is a classic example of your desperation, you think that providing figures to show how Japanese exports have declined supports your position? NOT HARDLY! The reason those numbers have declined doesn't have a damn thing to do with USDA not allowing Creekstone to test because nowhere can you prove that the Japanese government would have ever allowed Creekstone to ship them cattle under 24 months of age from tests that will not reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age.

The reason we don't have normalized trade with Japan is because we had bse in our native herd, which according to R-CULT should mean our beef is "contaminated" and "high risk", not because USDA would not allow Creekstone to use fraudulent testing.

You never back your positions and you never will.

Backing ONE statement is hardly comparable to backing your positions but you'll look for any excuse you can to avoid being held accountable for your statements or your positions.

Guys like you make statements, they don't defend their positions with supporting facts.

What you WANT TO BELIEVE is far more important to you than WHAT FACTS WILL SUPPORT.

You couldn't be more "FACTUALLY VOID" than you are. You are a typical "overly emotional" R-CULTer who sees no option but to discredit those you cannot debate. Now go console Rod, he needs your support or start another thread on "THE MANNER IN WHICH I POST" as if you hold the high moral ground on that issue you damn hypocrite.


~SH~
 

agman

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Sandhuisker "That's how Agman gets them to scrample - only cut loose 6%"

Clarify what you mean by your statement. Agman
 

Sandhusker

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agman said:
Sandhuisker "That's how Agman gets them to scrample - only cut loose 6%"

Clarify what you mean by your statement. Agman

If you cut the supply of anything to a trickle of what it once was, you will create a rush for that product.
 

agman

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Sandhusker said:
agman said:
Sandhuisker "That's how Agman gets them to scrample - only cut loose 6%"

Clarify what you mean by your statement. Agman

If you cut the supply of anything to a trickle of what it once was, you will create a rush for that product.

You are equating restricted supply with demand. I did not expect you would know the difference.
 

Sandhusker

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agman said:
Sandhusker said:
agman said:
Sandhuisker "That's how Agman gets them to scrample - only cut loose 6%"

Clarify what you mean by your statement. Agman

If you cut the supply of anything to a trickle of what it once was, you will create a rush for that product.

You are equating restricted supply with demand. I did not expect you would know the difference.

No, I'm not. Actually, Agman, when you point to our beef "flying off the shelves" in Japan, YOU are the one attempting to equate restricted supply with demand.
 

agman

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Sandhusker said:
agman said:
Sandhusker said:
agman said:
Sandhuisker "That's how Agman gets them to scrample - only cut loose 6%"

Clarify what you mean by your statement. Agman

If you cut the supply of anything to a trickle of what it once was, you will create a rush for that product.

You are equating restricted supply with demand. I did not expect you would know the difference.

No, I'm not. Actually, Agman, when you point to our beef "flying off the shelves" in Japan, YOU are the one attempting to equate restricted supply with demand.

What a you trying to twist again? Was it not you that stated exports were 6% of their peak level? Your comment ""That's how Agman gets them to scrample - only cut loose 6%"

Product is flying off the shelves when available. It was you who suggested repeatedly that would not happen! The restriction is the result of Japan's no-tariff trade barrier. Restaurants groups are now lobbying their government to ease the restrictions on U.S imports due to "guess what" ?????? Could it be consumer demand for U.S product?
 

Sandhusker

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Agman, "What a you trying to twist again? Was it not you that stated exports were 6% of their peak level? Your comment ""That's how Agman gets them to scrample - only cut loose 6%" "

Agman, "Product is flying off the shelves when available. It was you who suggested repeatedly that would not happen! The restriction is the result of Japan's no-tariff trade barrier. Restaurants groups are now lobbying their government to ease the restrictions on U.S imports due to "guess what" ?????? Could it be consumer demand for U.S product?"

I thought we couldn't BSE test because we didn't want to submit to a no-tariff trade barrier. Now you're telling me the USDA agreed to one. Did they forget what they said?

I never said we wouldn't sell any, you're putting words in my mouth. I said the majority of the Japanese weren't interested in untested beef from us.

We all know there is a restriction of product. If you aren't trying to insinuate demand, what is your point?

We need to send over 20,000T for a couple months like we used to, then we'd see how much demand there was. Problem is, we appear to have signed the dotted line on a trade barrier.... :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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Agman, "Restaurants groups are now lobbying their government to ease the restrictions on U.S imports due to "guess what" ?????? Could it be consumer demand for U.S product?"

Hard telling how much demand there is considering the restricted supply. Hey, didn't you just make a smart ass comment about confusing the two?
 
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Anonymous

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Sandcheska: "I thought we couldn't BSE test because we didn't want to submit to a no-tariff trade barrier. Now you're telling me the USDA agreed to one. Did they forget what they said?"

We didn't bse test because approved bse tests on cattle under 24 months of age are invalid which is why Japan has agreed to phase out their 100% testing stance.


Sandcheska: "I said the majority of the Japanese weren't interested in untested beef from us."

You were clearly wrong again.

What did you base that assumption on Sandcheska?

WHAT YOU WANTED TO BELIEVE TO SUPPORT YOUR USDA BLAMING BIAS?


Sandcheska: "We need to send over 20,000T for a couple months like we used to, then we'd see how much demand there was. Problem is, we appear to have signed the dotted line on a trade barrier..."

"APPEAR"???

Why do you always deal in "ILLUSIONS"?

Is it because you are "factually void" again?

If R-CULT was successful in stopping Canadian imports, Canada would absorb that same portion of our export market to Japan. Something you narrow minded isolationists can't seem to understand.

What dotted line on a trade barrier did we sign Sandcheska?


Watch the dance............



~SH~
 
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