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1/11/2009 at 12:19 P.M.

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Oldtimer: How many agencies now have the empolyees came forward and said "we were told to do nothing, shuffle paper, look busy" or "take an 8 year coffee break" or "change the facts to make it look good- or safe"

USDA, FDA, EPA, CDC, CFTC, SEC, etc. etc....
 

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“during traditionally one of the quietest news days of the year,” the President “hands a victory to corporate polluters” by pushing back the date in which certain smog regulations would take effect to 2013.

WASHINGTON — In a dramatic reversal, President Barack Obama on Friday scrubbed a clean-air regulation that aimed to reduce health-threatening smog,

The Environmental Protection Agency, whose scientific advisers favored the tighter limits, had predicted the proposed change would cost up to $90 billion a year, making it one of the most expensive environmental regulations ever imposed in the U.S.

However, the Clean Air Act bars the EPA from considering the costs of complying when setting public health standards.

In March, the EPA's independent panel of scientific advisers sent a letter to the agency's administrator, Lisa Jackson, saying it was its unanimous recommendation to make the smog standards stronger and that the evidence was "sufficiently certain" that the range proposed in January 2010 under Obama would benefit public health.

But the White House, which has pledged to base decisions on science, said Friday the science behind its initial decision needed to be updated, a process already under way at EPA. The smog standard now is to be revised until 2013.

currently Obama has pressured the EPA to hold off on new regulations it wants to impose until 2013

this is verifiable,..

so even if OT believes his own words.. how is this change?

isn't it more of the same?
 
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Steve said:
“during traditionally one of the quietest news days of the year,” the President “hands a victory to corporate polluters” by pushing back the date in which certain smog regulations would take effect to 2013.

WASHINGTON — In a dramatic reversal, President Barack Obama on Friday scrubbed a clean-air regulation that aimed to reduce health-threatening smog,

The Environmental Protection Agency, whose scientific advisers favored the tighter limits, had predicted the proposed change would cost up to $90 billion a year, making it one of the most expensive environmental regulations ever imposed in the U.S.

However, the Clean Air Act bars the EPA from considering the costs of complying when setting public health standards.
In March, the EPA's independent panel of scientific advisers sent a letter to the agency's administrator, Lisa Jackson, saying it was its unanimous recommendation to make the smog standards stronger and that the evidence was "sufficiently certain" that the range proposed in January 2010 under Obama would benefit public health.

But the White House, which has pledged to base decisions on science, said Friday the science behind its initial decision needed to be updated, a process already under way at EPA. The smog standard now is to be revised until 2013.

currently Obama has pressured the EPA to hold off on new regulations it wants to impose until 2013

this is verifiable,..

so even if OT believes his own words.. how is this change?

isn't it more of the same?

As I've said before EPA is one agency that should be totally disbanded-- and left to the states to enforce---BUT under the law as imposed by Nixon- it gives so much oversight authority to the courts-to interpret the science they believe is best--- that it is almost unable to control.... Doesn't depend on the economical impact-or where the economy sits- just if the Court feels it follows the EPA rules....

I am glad to see Obama admin has postponed this-- but I can bet there will be scads of suits filed to change that....
 

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
“during traditionally one of the quietest news days of the year,” the President “hands a victory to corporate polluters” by pushing back the date in which certain smog regulations would take effect to 2013.

WASHINGTON — In a dramatic reversal, President Barack Obama on Friday scrubbed a clean-air regulation that aimed to reduce health-threatening smog,

The Environmental Protection Agency, whose scientific advisers favored the tighter limits, had predicted the proposed change would cost up to $90 billion a year, making it one of the most expensive environmental regulations ever imposed in the U.S.

However, the Clean Air Act bars the EPA from considering the costs of complying when setting public health standards.
In March, the EPA's independent panel of scientific advisers sent a letter to the agency's administrator, Lisa Jackson, saying it was its unanimous recommendation to make the smog standards stronger and that the evidence was "sufficiently certain" that the range proposed in January 2010 under Obama would benefit public health.

But the White House, which has pledged to base decisions on science, said Friday the science behind its initial decision needed to be updated, a process already under way at EPA. The smog standard now is to be revised until 2013.

currently Obama has pressured the EPA to hold off on new regulations it wants to impose until 2013

this is verifiable,..

so even if OT believes his own words.. how is this change?

isn't it more of the same?

As I've said before EPA is one agency that should be totally disbanded-- and left to the states to enforce---BUT under the law as imposed by Nixon- it gives so much oversight authority to the courts-to interpret the science they believe is best--- that it is almost unable to control.... Doesn't depend on the economical impact-or where the economy sits- just if the Court feels it follows the EPA rules....

I am glad to see Obama admin has postponed this-- but I can bet there will be scads of suits filed to change that....

I wasn't arguing the merits of the EPA, but in how Obama did the same thing you're saying Bush did.. Could you at least try to reconcile that with what you said.. instead of changing the subject?

OldTimer said:
1/11/2009 at 12:19 P.M.

Quote:
Oldtimer: How many agencies now have the empolyees came forward and said "we were told to do nothing, shuffle paper, look busy" or "take an 8 year coffee break" or "change the facts to make it look good- or safe"

USDA, FDA, EPA, CDC, CFTC, SEC, etc. etc....

isn't it more of the same?
 

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