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Forest needed to cover carbon footprint of icy rescue

habnut

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Yup. Good idea.That will equal things out. But what happens when nature takes it course and the planted trees burn? Is that not what eventually will happen?
 

bearvalley

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Planting trees to offset environmental screw ups is nothing but a band-aid patch up attempt. Here in central BC we have had foreign countries (EK) come in and buy a few ranches, then plant the hay ground to trees. All to counterbalance their pollution emissions at home. A real joke. Good agriculture land lost. The grass grown annually did the same as trees. But I guess from the Greenies perspective the tractors aren't there to harvest the hay and the cows are gone. We would be better off if these companies would clean up their act at home. On the bright side, one day man might go hungry but he will still be gasping for air. Lol.
 

Tam

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When they have a Global Warming King that lives in his mansion that uses energy like there is no tomorrow and flies around the world in his private jet telling others about how cow farts are destroying the environment like Gore does and a US President that spews Global warming crap then jumps on Air Force One to fly to a fund raiser, golf game, vacation, to be on David Letterman or take his wife out on Date night do you really expect anything else from these bozos. Oh we will spew emissions all we want as we PLANTED A TREE. :roll:
 

littlejoe

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Frozen Out: 98% of Stories Ignore That Ice-bound Ship Was On Global Warming Mission



By Mike Ciandella | January 2, 2014 | 12:43

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A group of climate change scientists were rescued by helicopter Jan. 2, after being stranded in the ice since Christmas morning. But the majority of the broadcast networks’ reports about the ice-locked climate researchers never mentioned climate change.

The Russian ship, Akademic Shokalskiy, was stranded in the ice while on a climate change research expedition, yet nearly 98 percent of network news reports about the stranded researchers failed to mention their mission at all. Forty out of 41 stories (97.5 percent) on the network morning and evening news shows since Dec. 25 failed to mention climate change had anything to do with the expedition.

In fact, rather than point out the mission was to find evidence of climate change, the networks often referred to the stranded people as “passengers,” “trackers” and even “tourists,” without a word about climate change or global warming.

Chris Turney, the expedition’s leader, is a professor of climate change at the University of New South Wales. According to Turney’s personal website, the purpose of the expedition is to “discover and communicate the environmental changes taking place in the south.”

Twenty-two crew members stayed with the ship for the time being, as the scientists and researchers were rescued. According to CNN, the ship has enough supplies for “a very long time.”

Three rescue attempts had been thwarted by growing levels of sea ice and weather conditions.

"Outside, blizzard conditions packing an abnormal amount of ice in to the area for this time of the year, summer in the Antarctic," ABC News Correspondent Gio Benitez reported on “Good Morning America” Dec. 31.

On Jan. 2, all 52 passengers were airlifted to a nearby Australian icebreaker ship which had tried, and failed, to plow through the ice and free the Akademic Shokalskiy, on Dec. 30. “Good Morning America” said on Dec. 30, that “the ice could be as thick as 13 feet.”

According to Fox News, Turney admitted “we’re stuck in our own experiment.” They reported on Dec. 30, that a statement from the Australasian Antarctic Expedition said, “Sea ice is disappearing due to climate change, but here ice is building up.”

There was only one news story out of 41 that mentioned climate change. That was CBS “This Morning” Dec. 30. “Despite being frozen at a standstill, the team’s research on climate change and Antarctic wildlife is moving forward,” CBS News Correspondent Don Dahler said. That night, all three evening news programs still failed to make any mention of the group’s climate change research.

The MRC’s Business and Media Institute was unable to view a copy of CBS “Sunday Morning” for Dec. 29, so that broadcast had to be excluded from the tally.

Before their ship got stuck in ice, the researchers were following the trail of the explorer Douglas Mawson, who was stranded in Antarctica for more than a year, beginning in December 1912, according to the website about the expedition.







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Steve

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Little Joe Posted said:
Frozen Out: 98% of Stories Ignore That Ice-bound Ship Was On Global Warming Mission

there are a couple of treads with this ice fiasco as the theme and plenty of news not reported by the liberal US media..

and the more that comes out the more comically ironic it becomes...

now with three ships stuck.. the Russian science vessel, the snow dragon and the second Chinese vessel, all that is left is for US to join the block party..

(barge that was to be used to ferry the idiots out to the Australian ship was stuck as it positioned itself to be involved in the rescue.


The Shokalskiy was two weeks into a four-week expedition to follow the path taken a century ago by the Australian explorer Sir Douglas Mawson when it became trapped after being hit by a blizzard on Christmas Eve.

One of the aims of the expedition was to track how quickly the Antarctic’s sea ice was supposedly disappearing.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) and the Chinese and Russian governments have requested the help of the US Coast Guard, which has agreed to make one of its largest ships, the Polar Star, available for the rescue mission.

"The Polar Star is able to continuously break ice up to 1.8 metres while travelling at three knots and can break ice over six metres thick," AMSA spokeswoman Lisa Martin said.

The powerful US icebreaker has been en route to Antarctica since December 3 on a mission to clear a shipping channel for re-supply ships.

The Polar Star has a crew of 140 people and boasts a reinforced hull and a special bow which is specifically designed for open-water icebreaking.

"The commanding officer of the Polar Star has a lot of experience with ice-breaking, this is not his first gig, he's been doing this for a while," she said.

"So he understands ice, he understands ice-breaking, he understands what his ship can do and the limitations."

and if we fail.. there is at least one more super power that can step in...
One of the rules of thumb is how many feet of ice could it break at a given speed. The U.S. has two of the most powerful non-nuclear icebreakers in the world, the Polar Sea and the Polar Star. They can break over 6 feet [1.8 meters] of ice continuously at [a speed of] three knots. [One of Russia's largest nuclear-powered icebreakers, considered the strongest in the world, could break] probably upwards of ten feet [three meters].

the Polar star was commissioned back in 76 when we were heading into the ice ages.. but soon that was deemed a folly so no more were built..

and there there is little need for them now.
On June 30, 2006, the USCG placed the Polar Star in "Commission-Special" status in Seattle, WA. This caretaker status required a reduced crew of 34 to keep the ship ready for a possible return to the ice. In 2009, the NSF announced that they would end funding for maintaining the Polar Star[5]

yep everything is heating up why keep spending tons of money on a ship that is no longer needed..

or is it?
In March 2010, United States Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen announced that the Polar Star would receive a $62 million, to be complete by December 2012.[6] On 14 December 2012, The United States Coast Guard announced the reactivation of the Polar Star. The overhaul of the Polar Star, completed by Seattle's Vigor Industrial shipyard (formerly Todd Pacific shipyard), cost US$57 million. The Polar Star will undergo testing in 2013 prior to returning to service.[7][8] The Polar Star was back in operation in late 2013, and assigned to Antarctic operations as part of Operation Deep Freeze in early 2014.[9] She was dispatched on January 4 to attempt a rescue of the Russian research ship Akademik Shokalskiy and Chinese icebreaker MV Xue Long (雪龙, literally "MV Snow Dragon") trapped at that time in Antarctic ice, the former since December 24, 2013.[10]

hmm,.. did someone warn them this global warming gravy train was about to get as frosty as an old TV dinner in a chest freezer? ?

either way.. the old cold war over the ice may be heating up again soon..

will our 38 year old Polar Star save the day?


will Putin get called in to rescue US again?
 

hypocritexposer

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Why didn't they just stay home and plants trees?

If "global warming" is settled science, what's left to prove?

If they are only going plant trees to replace the CO2 they emitted, "reproving" a settled science, and not the rescue mission, then why not just stay home and plant trees?

:???:
 

Tam

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One of the aims of the expedition was to track how quickly the Antarctic’s sea ice was supposedly disappearing.

Can we all agree their mission was a big success as they found the "DISAPPEARING ICE". :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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Tam said:
One of the aims of the expedition was to track how quickly the Antarctic’s sea ice was supposedly disappearing.

Can we all agree their mission was a big success as they found the "DISAPPEARING ICE". :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And why is Calgary getting more snow than normal???? "Climate Change" is supposed to create more moisture, yet Global Warming should make that additional moisture fall as rain, should it not?

Liberals and their desire to tax are not known to use common sense...
 

Tam

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hypocritexposer said:
Tam said:
One of the aims of the expedition was to track how quickly the Antarctic’s sea ice was supposedly disappearing.

Can we all agree their mission was a big success as they found the "DISAPPEARING ICE". :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And why is Calgary getting more snow than normal???? "Climate Change" is supposed to create more moisture, yet Global Warming should make that additional moisture fall as rain, should it not?

Liberals and their desire to tax are not known to use common sense...

Coldest snap in decades hitting the majority of the continent, Global warmers stuck in the Ice during the summer. Got to love Mother Nature's sense of humor. :lol: :lol: Only thing that could make it funnier is if the water pipes in Gore's mansion froze and busted. :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

Steve

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Mission Accomplished,.. Global warming is now over! or soon will be.

Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)
29 January 2012

Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years

The supposed ‘consensus’ on man-made global warming is facing an inconvenient challenge after the release of new temperature data showing the planet has not warmed for the past 15 years.

Based on readings from more than 30,000 measuring stations, the data was issued last week without fanfare by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit. It confirms that the rising trend in world temperatures ended in 1997.

The figures suggest that we could even be heading for a mini ice age to rival the 70-year temperature drop that saw frost fairs held on the Thames in the 17th Century.

Meanwhile, leading climate scientists yesterday told The Mail on Sunday that, after emitting unusually high levels of energy throughout the 20th Century, the sun is now heading towards a ‘grand minimum’ in its output, threatening cold summers, bitter winters and a shortening of the season available for growing food.


ccording to a paper issued last week by the Met Office, there is a 92 per cent chance that both Cycle 25 and those taking place in the following decades will be as weak as, or weaker than, the ‘Dalton minimum’ of 1790 to 1830. In this period, named after the meteorologist John Dalton, average temperatures in parts of Europe fell by 2C.

However, it is also possible that the new solar energy slump could be as deep as the ‘Maunder minimum’ (after astronomer Edward Maunder), between 1645 and 1715 in the coldest part of the ‘Little Ice Age’ when, as well as the Thames frost fairs, the canals of Holland froze solid.

‘World temperatures may end up a lot cooler than now for 50 years or more,’ said Henrik Svensmark, director of the Center for Sun-Climate Research at Denmark’s National Space Institute. ‘It will take a long battle to convince some climate scientists that the sun is important. It may well be that the sun is going to demonstrate this on its own, without the need for their help.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2093264/Forget-global-warming--Cycle-25-need-worry-NASA-scientists-right-Thames-freezing-again.html

some of them "scientists" will never be convinced.. :roll: :shock:



Meanwhile, since the end of last year, world temperatures have fallen by more than half a degree, as the cold ‘La Nina’ effect has re-emerged in the South Pacific.

‘We’re now well into the second decade of the pause,’ said Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. ‘If we don’t see convincing evidence of global warming by 2015, it will start to become clear whether the models are bunk. And, if they are, the implications for some scientists could be very serious.’

‘Nature is about to carry out a very interesting experiment,’ he said. ‘Ten or 15 years from now, we will be able to determine much better whether the warming of the late 20th Century really was caused by man-made CO2, or by natural variability.’
 
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