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LB: "Is SH really this obtuse or does he have to work at it?"
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LB: "In this great nation of ours, you can not negate individual rights with a majority vote, even if the vote is 99% in favor of whatever action it is that violates that individual's rights."
Is that right????
Highway expansion is a perfect example of private property rights being violated for the greater good of the majority. I have known many who have fought highway expansion going through their property and guess what? Majority rules!
When water was piped around the country and they had to run it across private property. Did it go around those landowners who opposed it? Nope! Majority rules!
This situation is no different. The rare case where private property rights would be violated yields to the greater good of managing the public's wildlife resources.
You lockout advocates don't have the corner on private property rights concerns.
There is many, many laws that threaten individual rights for the greater good of the majority. Smoking in public is another example. Drinking and driving is another.
LB: "It is also NOT the function of GF&P to trespass on private land without the permission of the individual who owns that land."
It is the function of GF&P to enforce the wildlife laws that are in place. To do that effectively requires access to private property to do compliance checks during hunting seasons.
LB: "GF&P has no reason to trespass on private land. Period. No matter how much spin SH tries to put on it, wildlife IS a side issue and a handy smoke screen for GF&P to use to justify their trespass."
What an absolutely ridiculous claim ("wildlife IS a side issue").
If not to enforce wildlife laws and conduct hunter compliance checks, WHAT OTHER REASON WOULD CONSERVATION OFFICERS HAVE TO BE THERE?????
We have already been over the fact that I cannot personally enter private land without permission and I have to have WRITTEN PERMISSION to set equipment so where does that fit into your "BROAD BRUSH PAINTING" of GF&P trespassing????
I contacted every landowner that I did grouse lek counts on this year, where was the trespass in that situation?????
You can't argue your position at face value. You have to mislead and deceive with your remarks.
Your first was that Conservation Officers can come onto private property and DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. You know that isn't true.
Now you suggest that GF&P (which includes all GF&P) can trespass without permission. More deception on your part.
LB: "It would very easy for them to work with the landowner to gain access to private land. The fact that they refuse to even try to obtain landowner permission tells us a lot about the true motives behind their bull-headed stance."
Any fool knows that a game law violater will not grant permission.
That's like saying that permission should be obtained before searching someone's luggage at the airport.
Hundreds and hundreds of folks getting their personal rights violated everyday at airports across the U.S. for the benefit of the majority.
WHODA THOUGHT THIS COULD HAPPEN IN THE "LAND OF THE FREE"??????
Keep waving that flag Liberty Belle on the rare chance that you might see a Conservation Officer checking hunters on your property since you haven't seen one yet.
~SH~
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
LB: "In this great nation of ours, you can not negate individual rights with a majority vote, even if the vote is 99% in favor of whatever action it is that violates that individual's rights."
Is that right????
Highway expansion is a perfect example of private property rights being violated for the greater good of the majority. I have known many who have fought highway expansion going through their property and guess what? Majority rules!
When water was piped around the country and they had to run it across private property. Did it go around those landowners who opposed it? Nope! Majority rules!
This situation is no different. The rare case where private property rights would be violated yields to the greater good of managing the public's wildlife resources.
You lockout advocates don't have the corner on private property rights concerns.
There is many, many laws that threaten individual rights for the greater good of the majority. Smoking in public is another example. Drinking and driving is another.
LB: "It is also NOT the function of GF&P to trespass on private land without the permission of the individual who owns that land."
It is the function of GF&P to enforce the wildlife laws that are in place. To do that effectively requires access to private property to do compliance checks during hunting seasons.
LB: "GF&P has no reason to trespass on private land. Period. No matter how much spin SH tries to put on it, wildlife IS a side issue and a handy smoke screen for GF&P to use to justify their trespass."
What an absolutely ridiculous claim ("wildlife IS a side issue").
If not to enforce wildlife laws and conduct hunter compliance checks, WHAT OTHER REASON WOULD CONSERVATION OFFICERS HAVE TO BE THERE?????
We have already been over the fact that I cannot personally enter private land without permission and I have to have WRITTEN PERMISSION to set equipment so where does that fit into your "BROAD BRUSH PAINTING" of GF&P trespassing????
I contacted every landowner that I did grouse lek counts on this year, where was the trespass in that situation?????
You can't argue your position at face value. You have to mislead and deceive with your remarks.
Your first was that Conservation Officers can come onto private property and DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. You know that isn't true.
Now you suggest that GF&P (which includes all GF&P) can trespass without permission. More deception on your part.
LB: "It would very easy for them to work with the landowner to gain access to private land. The fact that they refuse to even try to obtain landowner permission tells us a lot about the true motives behind their bull-headed stance."
Any fool knows that a game law violater will not grant permission.
That's like saying that permission should be obtained before searching someone's luggage at the airport.
Hundreds and hundreds of folks getting their personal rights violated everyday at airports across the U.S. for the benefit of the majority.
WHODA THOUGHT THIS COULD HAPPEN IN THE "LAND OF THE FREE"??????
Keep waving that flag Liberty Belle on the rare chance that you might see a Conservation Officer checking hunters on your property since you haven't seen one yet.
~SH~