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Lonecowboy

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Today was a very good day for America- do we dare think today was a pivitol turning point? :D
I think we might get our country back before it is too late!

The frustration with President Barack Obama over his tax cut compromise was palpable and even profane at Thursday’s House Democratic Caucus meeting.

One unidentified lawmaker went so far as to mutter “f— the president” while Rep. Shelley Berkley was defending the package the president negotiated with Republicans. Berkley confirmed the incident, although she declined to name the specific lawmaker.

“It wasn’t loud,” the Nevada Democrat said. “It was just expressing frustration from a very frustrated Member.”


Rep. Jerrold Nadler (N.Y.) was also overheard saying that “we can’t trust him” not to cave to Republicans and extend the tax cuts again in two years, according to a Democratic source.

The anger aimed at the bill was widespread. As Democrats moved to block the bill from coming up on the floor, chants of “Just say no!” could be heard by reporters outside the room.
 

jigs

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I thought that the concept of F___ the President would have left the White House with Bill Clinton......
 

Lonecowboy

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Today was a very good day for America- do we dare think today was a pivitol turning point? :D
I think we might get our country back before it is too late!

More proof! Who's under the bus now?


Fox News confirms that former President Bill Clinton will be at the White House for a meeting with President Obama Friday.

The meeting comes as Obama is facing a tough fight with his own party over a compromise he reached with Republicans on the Bush-era tax cuts.

On top of that, Obama is just a few weeks shy of dealing with a GOP-controlled House, and a Senate that is slightly more red. Obama himself called the historic GOP outcome of the midterms a "shellacking."

Clinton has been praised for his ability to handle a Republican Congress after his party was beat-out in 1994.

In fact, Obama has apparently been trying to learn from Clinton's experience. In an interview with the New York Times Magazine in October before the midterm elections, Obama said he was reading "The Clinton Tapes," by Taylor Branch. Branch's tome highlighted his secret interviews while Clinton was in office.

"I was looking over some chronicles of the Clinton years, and was reminded that in '94 -- when President Clinton's poll numbers were lower than mine, and obviously the election ended up being bad for Democrats - unemployment was only 6.6 percent. And I don't think anybody would suggest that Bill Clinton wasn't a good communicator or was somebody who couldn't connect with the American people or didn't show empathy," Obama said in the NYT interview.

The president has gone on a major offensive in trying to explain the tax deal. His base is angry that he caved in to cuts for the wealthiest Americans and Obama has had various on-camera statements, did a YouTube video through his political arm, and an interview with NPR set to air Friday. Yet even through the blanketing the media with his message, he is still facing an uphill battle with convincing his base that the deal was the best he could do to ensure middle class tax cuts.
 

okfarmer

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jigs said:
I thought that the concept of F___ the President would have left the White House with Bill Clinton......


SLANDER, SLANDER! He said it TWICE, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." :wink:
 

Tam

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The next two years are going to be the worst years of Obama's life now that he has pizzed the Liberal Left base and the Liberal bias media off. He thought the Tea Parties and FOX were hard to deal with, you wait until he has to deal with the loony Left at every outing. He will have to go into hiding. :lol:

I hear they brought down the White House Phone system the other day and you can bet they are not going to stop there. You will see burning effigies in the streets. But just think it this way, it will be OK to speak out against the President and still be considered a patriot as it will be the Left doing it now. :wink: :shock:
 

hypocritexposer

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Tam, I'm nott so sure that this is not a strategy that the Dems. have come up with.

They have now positioned obama as more of a moderate, compared thpo the moree liberal Dems.

Most won't be fooled, but some will be. It also puts obama in a position to blame the Republicans, if the economy does not improve, but to also take credit, if it does improve by 2012.

Just a thought.

Oh, and the title of this thread needs to be retitled to FUBO. :lol:
 

Tam

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If you really look at the deal Obama made, I think you will see he sold the Republicans a bill of goods too. The Republicans were so distracted with their eyes on the shiney object called the Tax Cut Extention that Obama was able to spoon feed them the poison of the unfunded unemployment extentions. :roll:
After the voters said enough was enough with the unfunded spending in Nov. , Obama managed to prove that deficit reduction through spending cuts is going to be one VERY LONG ROUGH ROAD. If the Tea Party Causus doesn't speak up and stop the estabilshed Republican "DEAL MAKERS" from making deals as usual nothing is going to change. The Old Republicans had better smarten up and stand strong on the spending cuts to pay for Obama's wish list or the voters are going to clean house and vote in more TEA PARTY candidates in 2012 that will stand strong. :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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Tam said:
If you really look at the deal Obama made, I think you will see he sold the Republicans a bill of goods too. The Republicans were so distracted with their eyes on the shiney object called the Tax Cut Extention that Obama was able to spoon feed them the poison of the unfunded unemployment extentions. :roll:
After the voters said enough was enough with the unfunded spending in Nov. , Obama managed to prove that deficit reduction through spending cuts is going to be one VERY LONG ROUGH ROAD. If the Tea Party Causus doesn't speak up and stop the estabilshed Republican "DEAL MAKERS" from making deals as usual nothing is going to change. The Old Republicans had better smarten up and stand strong on the spending cuts to pay for Obama's wish list or the voters are going to clean house and vote in more TEA PARTY candidates in 2012 that will stand strong. :roll:

There's more than just the "unfunded" unemployment extension. Where is Jingo2 to ask how they are going to pay for the 30% cut in Social Security funding? Or the 8o cents per day for SS receips, that amounts to diddly for them, but a $41 Billion shortfall for the taxpayer?

What ever happened to the Dem. plan of "pay as you go"?

Anyway, there is more 'real" stimulus dollars in this agreement than there was in the "stimulus plan", and that is what obama is counting on. I think his team is counting on some economic activity, but if it is not enough, he can still blame it on the repubs.

The repubs. should hope that the more liberal Dems. kill this deal, and maybe that is their plan, but I am afraid that you are correct, that they were focusing on their "crown jewell" and not the big picture.

there was no need for the repubs to cave and negotiate this deal. They should have let the Dems make their own mistakes.
 

Lonecowboy

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and we all get to pay for it!

or rather our grandchildren do!

In the spirit of the holiday season, President Obama's tax-cut deal with Republicans is becoming a Christmas tree tinseled with gifts for lobbyists and lawmakers. But that hardly stopped the squabbling on Friday, with Bill Clinton even back at the White House pleading the president's case.

While Republicans sat back quietly, mostly pleased, Democrats and other liberals were going at each other ever so publicly. As Clinton lectured on Obama's behalf, Vermont independent Bernie Sanders castigated the agreement for the TV cameras in the mostly empty Senate chamber.

The tax deal, reached behind the scenes and still informal, now includes ethanol subsidies for rural folks, commuter tax breaks for their cousins in the cities and suburbs and wind and solar grants for the environmentalists -- all aimed at winning votes, particularly from reluctant Democrats.

The holiday additions are being hung on the big bill that was Congress' main reason for spending December in Washington, long after the elections that will give Republicans new power in January. The measure will extend Bush-era tax cuts, averting big tax increases for nearly all Americans, and keep jobless benefits flowing.

Republicans generally liked that agreement, worked out by Obama and GOP leaders. Democrats generally didn't, hence the add-ons.[/b]
 

Tam

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I guess all the tax payers can hope for is Pelosi adds on so much that the Republicans that negoticated this mistake, revolt and vote no. AND in Jan when they take power they live up to the warnings the voters gave them in Nov and do the right thing. CUT SPENDING

I heard McCain on TV this morning and even he was saying if the Republicans don't smarten up there will be a third party running in the next election and they will clean house. ALL THREE HOUSES. :wink:
 
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