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Goldwater

Brad S

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"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."


Do you suppose Goldwater would be one of those extremist radical kooks clambering for the liberty afforded by the constitution, and justice proscribed by the constitution?


Um....OT, you are the antiGoldwater.
 
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Anonymous

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Brad S said:
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."


Do you suppose Goldwater would be one of those extremist radical kooks clambering for the liberty afforded by the constitution, and justice proscribed by the constitution?


Um....OT, you are the antiGoldwater.

And Goldwaters radical beliefs about extremism and against justice for all may be the reason he only got 38% of the popular vote in the 1964 election and LBJ got 61 %.... And after that both Goldwater, and the ultra right wing conservatives/John Birchers pretty well faded away...
 

Brad S

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So you don't want to talk about the lies lbj got elected on?
I know you don't really care about bigotry because you voted for a bigot, but you perport (lie) to care about such things. Lbj was an unabashed bigot, just the sort that would remark about clinging to guns and religion. Clearly, the electorate voted for the wrong man , and not that you'd care, but the black community is paying in blood for the sins of lbj. Lbj didn't care about "n!ggers" any more than Obama cares about Hispanics; they only know about political exploitation. Just the sort of unprincipled reprobates you can get behind.
 

Faster horses

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What happened to Goldwater is the country wasn't ready for the TRUTH.
Had he been elected, I feel our country would have gone a whole different direction than with LBJ.

I voted for Goldwater and I'm proud of it! First time I was old enough to vote in a national election!
 

mrj

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Didn't LBJ use some quite 'politically incorrect' terms to describe how he would bribe the black folks into voting him in, and (paraphrasing) "turn them into Democrat voters for the next 200 years!"?

Seems like he pretty well achieved that brag.

mrj
 

mrj

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Didn't LBJ use some quite 'politically incorrect' terms to describe how he would bribe the black folks into voting him in, and (paraphrasing) "turn them into Democrat voters for the next 200 years!"?

Seems like he pretty well achieved that brag.

mrj
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Brad S said:
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."


Do you suppose Goldwater would be one of those extremist radical kooks clambering for the liberty afforded by the constitution, and justice proscribed by the constitution?


Um....OT, you are the antiGoldwater.

And Goldwaters radical beliefs about extremism and against justice for all may be the reason he only got 38% of the popular vote in the 1964 election and LBJ got 61 %.... And after that both Goldwater, and the ultra right wing conservatives/John Birchers pretty well faded away...

Bullchit. George Wallace almost threw the Pres. election to the House in 1968 as running on the Independent Party. Faded away my azz.
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Brad S said:
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."


Do you suppose Goldwater would be one of those extremist radical kooks clambering for the liberty afforded by the constitution, and justice proscribed by the constitution?


Um....OT, you are the antiGoldwater.

And Goldwaters radical beliefs about extremism and against justice for all may be the reason he only got 38% of the popular vote in the 1964 election and LBJ got 61 %.... And after that both Goldwater, and the ultra right wing conservatives/John Birchers pretty well faded away...

Bullchit. George Wallace almost threw the Pres. election to the House in 1968 as running on the Independent Party. Faded away my azz.

:???: Say What? Goldwater was not even a candidate in 1968... He had faded so far away he wasn't even a Republican primary candidate... 1968 is when Tricky Dicky barely beat Hubert Humphrey in the popular vote...

I will concede that your southern KKK candidate did pick about 13% of the vote and picked up the electoral votes of 5 deep south states....Nixon still won by 31 electoral votes....
 

Mike

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Under the United States Constitution, the House of Representatives elects the President in the event no candidate receives a majority in the Electoral College. Each state's House delegation receives one vote. The map on the right indicates the majority party of each state's delegation following the 1968 U.S. House election - blue states being Democratic and red states being Republican. This House would have elected the President had Wallace succeeded in denying his opponents an Electoral College majority.

As indicated on the map, Democrats controlled 26 of the 50 state house delegations, with Republicans controlling 19 delegations and the other five being evenly split. Had the Democratic delegations all been firmly behind Humphrey, then Wallace might have found himself with little influence on post-election events even if he had succeeded in forcing the election into the House. However, Wallace believed the Southern Democratic delegations would not support Humphrey without first obtaining substantial concessions with respect to federal desegregation measures, or might even have agreed to back Nixon if he agreed to Southern demands.

An alternative theory holds that had Wallace achieved his aim he could have pre-empted an election in the House by instructing his own electors to back one of the major party candidates - there was no legal or constitutional impediment that would have prevented him from doing so. This would have allowed Wallace the opportunity to negotiate directly with the major candidates (provided he could have concluded such negotiations prior to the Electoral College formally casting its votes for President). It has been postulated that Wallace might possibly have been able to come to an agreement with Nixon who (with his party controlling only 19 state delegations) might have been seen to have little prospect of being elected President without making some sort of arrangement with Wallace
 
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Anonymous

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On May 24, 1964:
Goldwater suggests using atomic weapons

Senator Barry Goldwater (R-Arizona), running for the Republican Party nomination in the upcoming presidential election, gives an interview in which he discusses the use of low-yield atomic bombs in North Vietnam to defoliate forests and destroy bridges, roads, and railroad lines bringing supplies from communist China.
During the storm of criticism that followed, Goldwater tried to back away from these drastic actions, claiming that he did not mean to advocate the use of atomic bombs but was "repeating a suggestion made by competent military people." Democrats painted Goldwater as a warmonger who was overly eager to use nuclear weapons in Vietnam. Though he won his party's nomination, Goldwater was never able to shake his image as an extremist in Vietnam policies. This image was a key factor in his crushing defeat by opponent Lyndon B. Johnson, who took about 61 percent of the vote to Goldwater's 39 percent.


The thing I remember most about the campaign was the nuclear bomb "Daisy" advertisements the Democrats flooded the TV's with... And just like McCain's singing "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran" songs hurt him- Goldwater's talk of using nuclear bombs on Vietnam ran people away from him in droves....

It was a brilliantly used campaign ad:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=goldwater+ad+atom+bomb&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=1D9A2BBEBAE39F7C93431D9A2BBEBAE39F7C9343
 
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