Disagreeable
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Disagreeable said:
Cal said:.
The result? By the end of the Clinton administration, China's nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missile fleet was able to reach every city in the U.S.
So the whole Chinese nuclear tipped intercontinental balistic missile fleet deal doesn't really bother you? Are the Democrats involved with Abramoff considered to be crooks, in your estimation, or just the Republicans?Disagreeable said:Cal said:.
The result? By the end of the Clinton administration, China's nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missile fleet was able to reach every city in the U.S.
:lol: Keep spinning, Cal. As the corruption scandal of the Republican Congress and White House continues to unfold, you'll have a lot of work to do.
Cal said:So the whole Chinese nuclear tipped intercontinental balistic missile fleet deal doesn't really bother you? Are the Democrats involved with Abramoff considered to be crooks, in your estimation, or just the Republicans?Disagreeable said:Cal said:.
The result? By the end of the Clinton administration, China's nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missile fleet was able to reach every city in the U.S.
:lol: Keep spinning, Cal. As the corruption scandal of the Republican Congress and White House continues to unfold, you'll have a lot of work to do.
Disagreeable said:I'm not sure one can be too partisan these days.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/kerry-contributions.shtmlSen. John Kerry accepted laundered contributions for his 1996 re-election campaign from the Communist Chinese government and that, in exchange, he may have arranged meetings between Chinese aerospace executives and U.S. government officials.
Obtained from the FBI through Freedom of Information Act and Privacy Act requests, the documents are related to the FBI's "Chinagate" investigation into the Clinton campaign's acceptance of contributions from Communist Chinese government sources.
40 of 45 members of the Senate Democrat Caucus have taken money from lobbyist Jack Abramoff, his associates and Indian tribe clients.
40 Of The 45 Members Of The Senate Democrat Caucus:
Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) Received At Least – $22,500
Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) Received At Least – $6,500
Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE) Received At Least – $1,250
Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) Received At Least – $2,000
Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) Received At Least – $20,250
Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) Received At Least – $21,765
Senator Tom Carper (D-DE) Received At Least – $7,500
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) Received At Least – $12,950
Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND) Received At Least – $8,000
Senator Jon Corzine (D-NJ) Received At Least – $7,500
Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) Received At Least – $14,792
Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND) Received At Least – $79,300
Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) Received At Least – $14,000
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) Received At Least – $2,000
Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) Received At Least – $1,250
Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) Received At Least – $45,750
Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Received At Least – $9,000
Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT) Received At Least – $2,000
Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) Received At Least – $14,250
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Received At Least – $3,300
Senator John Kerry (D-MA) Received At Least – $98,550
Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) Received At Least – $28,000
Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT) Received At Least – $4,000
Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) Received At Least – $6,000
Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) Received At Least – $29,830
Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) Received At Least – $14,891
Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) Received At Least – $10,550
Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) Received At Least – $78,991
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) Received At Least – $20,168
Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) Received At Least – $5,200
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) Received At Least – $7,500
Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR) Received At Least – $2,300
Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) Received At Least – $3,500
Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) Received At Least – $68,941
Senator John Rockefeller (D-WV) Received At Least – $4,000
Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO) Received At Least – $4,500
Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) Received At Least – $4,300
Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Received At Least – $29,550
Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) Received At Least – $6,250
Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) Received At Least – $6,250
reader (the Second) said:Otherwise, how do you explain the Republican Party being so upset with the administration??
Steve said:Maybe Dis can explain away John Kerry's $98,550 in donations...... from Abramoff?
http://www.judicialwatch.org/kerry-contributions.shtmlSen. John Kerry accepted laundered contributions for his 1996 re-election campaign from the Communist Chinese government and that, in exchange, he may have arranged meetings between Chinese aerospace executives and U.S. government officials.
Obtained from the FBI through Freedom of Information Act and Privacy Act requests, the documents are related to the FBI's "Chinagate" investigation into the Clinton campaign's acceptance of contributions from Communist Chinese government sources.
or your 40 other democrats?
40 of 45 members of the Senate Democrat Caucus have taken money from lobbyist Jack Abramoff, his associates and Indian tribe clients.
Steve wrote:
Maybe Dis can explain away John Kerry's $98,550 in donations...... from Abramoff?
You're a liar, Steve. Nothing at the link below says Abramoff gave money to Kerry.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/6/100900.shtmlSenator John Kerry (D-MA), who received at least $98,550 in Abramoff-linked cash.
http://www.capitolhilljournal.com/art000000058.htmlforty of the forty-five members of the Democrat Senate Caucus took money from Jack Abramoff, his associates, and their Indian tribe
clients. These recipients include: Charles Schumer ($29,550), Harry Reid ($68,941), Patty Murray ($78,991), Mary Landrieu, ($28,000),
John Kerry ($98,550), Ted Kennedy ($3,300), Tom Harkin ($45,750), Dick Durbin ($14,000), Barbara Boxer ($20,250), Hillary Clinton ($12,950) and Byron Dorgan ($79,300).
When tallied, Senate Democrats and their national committees accepted $3.1 million from Abramoff, his associates and clients,
compared with $4.3 million in contributions to Republicans. So, the statement that this is exclusively a "Republican scandal" is simply not true.
Steve said:Steve wrote:
Maybe Dis can explain away John Kerry's $98,550 in donations...... from Abramoff?
Dis wrote:
You're a liar, Steve. Nothing at the link below says Abramoff gave money to Kerry.
Yes it did, here is even more........
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/6/100900.shtmlSenator John Kerry (D-MA), who received at least $98,550 in Abramoff-linked cash.
http://www.capitolhilljournal.com/art000000058.htmlforty of the forty-five members of the Democrat Senate Caucus took money from Jack Abramoff, his associates, and their Indian tribe
clients. These recipients include: Charles Schumer ($29,550), Harry Reid ($68,941), Patty Murray ($78,991), Mary Landrieu, ($28,000),
John Kerry ($98,550), Ted Kennedy ($3,300), Tom Harkin ($45,750), Dick Durbin ($14,000), Barbara Boxer ($20,250), Hillary Clinton ($12,950) and Byron Dorgan ($79,300).
When tallied, Senate Democrats and their national committees accepted $3.1 million from Abramoff, his associates and clients,
compared with $4.3 million in contributions to Republicans. So, the statement that this is exclusively a "Republican scandal" is simply not true.
guess you can't explain away Kerry's dirty money so you call me a liar?...
You did lie. Even this thread says "Abramoff-linked cash", not Kerry "took money from Abramoff". That's the Republican spin, try to paint the Dems as diry as they are. I'll try to keep the truth out here.
Steve said:Steve wrote;
guess you can't explain away Kerry's dirty money so you call me a liar?...
Dis wrote;
You did lie. Even this thread says "Abramoff-linked cash", not Kerry "took money from Abramoff". That's the Republican spin, try to paint the Dems as diry as they are. I'll try to keep the truth out here.
Maybe you could show how much "Abramoff money" Delay took by your standard of Proof?
And while your at it....How is Communist China's Money any different from taking Abramoff's money?
Both were illigal.....both "doners" were convicted.....both sought to influance the lawmaker by dumping money in thier campaign funds....please enlighten US on how one is the doner's fault and the other is the Politician's fault....?????
Slowly now
Steve said:Slowly now
You can't have it both ways,,,,,
I never attacked you......I just asked questions. (Questions you can't answer)
Because you have no facts to back up your lies is not me attacking you...it is just you being unable to defend you lies, so you call me a liar......
so instead of attacking could you please answer my Questions.
1.explain away Kerry's dirty money $98,550 from "Abramoff-linked cash"
2. Explain how Kerry recieving Dirty Money from the Chineses is some how acceptable?
3. What Delay actually recieved by "your standards" as Money directly from Abramoff.?
And while your at it....How is Communist China's Money any different from taking Abramoff's money?
Both were illigal.....both "doners" were convicted.....both sought to influance the lawmaker by dumping money in thier campaign funds....please enlighten US on how one is the doner's fault and the other is the Politician's fault....?????
Can't do it ?
I just asked questions. (Questions you can't answer)
Because you have no facts to back up your lies is not me attacking you...it is just you being unable to defend you lies, so you call me a liar......
so instead of attacking could you please answer my Questions.
1.explain away Kerry's dirty money $98,550 from "Abramoff-linked cash"
2. Explain how Kerry recieving Dirty Money from the Chineses is some how acceptable?
3. What Delay actually recieved by "your standards" as Money directly from Abramoff.?
And while your at it....How is Communist China's Money any different from taking Abramoff's money?
Both were illigal.....both "doners" were convicted.....both sought to influance the lawmaker by dumping money in thier campaign funds....please enlighten US on how one is the doner's fault and the other is the Politician's fault....?????
Can't do it ?