Sandhusker
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By saying the "unfair distributions in taxes", you're talking about the billions that went to illegal aliens?
reader (the Second) said:California is paying for rich Orange County folks pushing Proposition 13 three decades ago. Real estate taxes are grandfathered and the poor and middle class working are paying more taxes than the rich. Schools failed 2 decades ago.
Immigration is a recent phenomenon compared to Proposition 13.
reader (the Second) said:Arnold: I'll take govs' money
Andy Barr Andy Barr Sat Feb 21, 3:18 pm ET
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Saturday that if fellow Republican governors threatening to turn down stimulus funds follow through on their pledge, he'd be happy to have their share.
reader (the Second) said:I say he should have arranged an earthquake and let that entire state of moronic liberals slide into the sea.
Seriously, this state was the laboratory for Reagonomics with Proposition 13 ensuring crappy schools and roads and unfair distribution of taxes. If they had not had Silicon Valley, they would have been in the toilet a decade or more ago.
reader (the Second) said:SMN Herf said:reader (the Second) said:I say he should have arranged an earthquake and let that entire state of moronic liberals slide into the sea.
Seriously, this state was the laboratory for Reagonomics with Proposition 13 ensuring crappy schools and roads and unfair distribution of taxes. If they had not had Silicon Valley, they would have been in the toilet a decade or more ago.
Are you saying that they only have a revenue problem and not a spending problem? There are two sides to a defecit. At some point the politicians are actually going to have to grow a backbone and so NO to spending.
I agree with you about there being both a revenue and a spending problem. When they had decent tax income from the dot.com boom, they managed, but no longer. However if you have been to California, you know that their schools are bad and their highways old and crumbling. They do do all sorts of things that drive me crazy. I used to own land there but frankly was glad to get rid of it, because the laws that they have are so restrictive. I don't know about too much spending. I do know that I have relatives there who believe the government should support them and entitlement seems to be a California illusion. As if they don't realize that me and their other relatives are footing the bill for their living off the government.
reader (the Second) said:SMN Herf said:reader (the Second) said:I agree with you about there being both a revenue and a spending problem. When they had decent tax income from the dot.com boom, they managed, but no longer. However if you have been to California, you know that their schools are bad and their highways old and crumbling. They do do all sorts of things that drive me crazy. I used to own land there but frankly was glad to get rid of it, because the laws that they have are so restrictive. I don't know about too much spending. I do know that I have relatives there who believe the government should support them and entitlement seems to be a California illusion. As if they don't realize that me and their other relatives are footing the bill for their living off the government.
I have never been to California. Have relatives and friends that have been glad to get out. Why did you blamed Reagonomics and Prop 13 for the bad schools and roads, but never mentioned the restrictions on property and businesses that also affect the revenue stream to the states treasurery?
The old addage of so goes California, so goes the rest of the country is going to bring this country into revolt.
California is quite different than the rest of the country due to its craziness both liberals and conservatives. The reason I blamed Prop 13 is because I know what my mother pays on her property and what others who have held their property for decades pay compare to those who bought more recently. My impression is that a HUGE amount of tax revenue is missed because of the disparities in property tax and that this is in addition grossly unfair.
aplusmnt said:I saw the problem in California first hand 34 years ago. We were there on vacation and I did something wrong and my dad was lighting my butt on fire in a parking lot. My Uncle came running over and grabbed my dad and told him, "You are in Californian now not Oklahoma you can not be spanking your kid like that out in public, or someone will call the cops on you"
As grateful as I was for my uncle Trying to save my hide, now 34 years later all them spoiled brats that never got a good Midwestern butt spanking are running the country! No wonder they are messed up as much as they are, not enough switching when they were young!
Mike said:aplusmnt said:I saw the problem in California first hand 34 years ago. We were there on vacation and I did something wrong and my dad was lighting my butt on fire in a parking lot. My Uncle came running over and grabbed my dad and told him, "You are in Californian now not Oklahoma you can not be spanking your kid like that out in public, or someone will call the cops on you"
As grateful as I was for my uncle Trying to save my hide, now 34 years later all them spoiled brats that never got a good Midwestern butt spanking are running the country! No wonder they are messed up as much as they are, not enough switching when they were young!
Good thing we never went there on vacation. :lol:
My Dad would be doing life there now.................. :lol: :lol: