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GROWING HIND LEGS AGAINST THE DRUG CARTELS

DustDevil

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Some good news coming out of Mexico. Another article from the L.A Times, ("Cartel's reign cools off in Mexico"s "hot land") better described how the citizens, the people are fed up with being terrorized and extorted from and have taken up arms to fight the drug cartels. I say, Viva la Comunitarios" or Self-Defense Guards".

http://www.chron.com/default/article/Mexico-vigilantes-police-kill-3-cartel-suspects-4580493.php
 

Whitewing

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I lived, worked and played in Mexico for years but couldn't imagine doing today what I did back then (late 90's and early 2000's) because of the drug violence. They're chopping people's heads off left and right these days.

For about a year I lived in the southern city of Villahermosa in Tabasco where I had an office. Nice place, nice climate, friendly people. Also had equipment near the Texas border at Reynosa and traveled up there quite a bit too.

For fun I'd drive from S. Louisiana down to Laredo in December, cross the border into Nuevo Laredo, and hunt deer on a big ranch about 20 miles in from the border. Bringing guns across the border was always interesting. Before I'd make the drive I'd take everything out of my truck and search under seats for anything that could get me in trouble, like a single .22 caliber bullet. The gun laws there are amazingly strict and you get jailed for just about any violation.

From what I've heard, Nuevo Laredo is now a literal war zone with the drug cartels. The guy whose ranch I hunted lived in Monterrey, about a 3 hour drive, and even back then I think he could see the handwriting on the wall. I recall him wanting to sell his place, 10,000 acres for next to nothing and wondered why at the time. Now I know why.
 

Steve

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it seems the latino immigrants just wanting a place to work may have found a "safe haven"community, "sanctuary city" .. and a gun free zone to work in...


On Friday, Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies arrested Compton Varrio 155 gang members Jeffrey Aguilar, 19, and Efren Marquez, 21, as well as a juvenile. All three have reportedly been engaged in a campaign of violence and intimidation against a black family who moved into Compton last month.

All three are facing hate crimes charges.

Marquez allegedly held the victim at gunpoint while Aguilar beat the man with a metal pipe, according to detectives.

The suspects, along with dozens of others returned on a daily basis to intimidate the family.

The case is still under investigation and more arrests are expected.

The Los Angeles Times reported:

"When a friend came to visit, four men in a black SUV pulled up and called him a "******," saying black people were barred from the neighborhood, according to Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies. They jumped out, drew a gun on him and beat him with metal pipes.

It was just the beginning of what detectives said was a campaign by a Latino street gang to force an African American family to leave.

The attacks on the family are the latest in a series of violent incidents in whichLatino gangs targeted blacks in parts of greater Los Angeles over the last decade.

Federal authorities have alleged in several indictments in the last decade that the Mexican Mafia prison gang has ordered street gangs under its control to attack African Americans. Leaders of the Azusa 13 gang were sentenced to lengthy prison terms earlier this month for leading a policy of attacking African American residents and expelling them from the town.

Similar attacks have taken place in Harbor Gateway, Highland Park, Pacoima, San Bernardino, Canoga Park and Wilmington, among other places. In the Compton case, sheriff's officials say the gang appears to have been acting on its own initiative."

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Does Obama plan to disarm them?

Of course, violence directed at blacks by Latino gang members has been occurring at an alarming rate throughout southern California.

In April 2012, while testifying in the trial of a gang member, Erik Witholt, an Escondido police detective, told the court that a leader of the Mexican Mafia had ordered several Latino street gangs to work on "getting blacks out of Escondido."

An unidentified North County Latino gang member told the North County Times: "When he (Espudo) first got out [of prison], that's one of the first things he did. He saw how things have changed, from when he went in to when he came out, so he made that 'green light.'"

A 'green light' is a gang term for permission to severely beat or murder someone.

The North County Times reported that Mexican Mafia member Rudy Espudo has "directed street gang activity in inland North County. Espudo was arrested in January and indicted, with 118 other people, for a range of crimes, including racketeering and drug dealing," according to federal law enforcement.

Wilholt also said that violent, unprovoked attacks on blacks in Escondido have greatly increased since the powerful gang issued the order in 2008.

-On February 6, 2012, a black man sat waiting in a car with his girlfriend and her child, was at Rose Street and East Valley Parkway when seven Latino gang members surrounded their vehicle and repeatedly stabbed the man. The victim barely survived the ordeal.

Of course, violence directed at blacks by Latino gang members has been occurring at an alarming rate throughout California.

-In 2011, five Latino gang members were charged with hate crimes against black men in the Crown Heights neighborhood of Oceanside.

-In March 2008, as 17-year-old Jamiel Shaw walked home, illegal alien gang member Pedro Espinoza pulled alongside the teenager, and asked him what gang he was in. According to witnesses, the high school football standout did not answer him, he did not answer because he had no part of gang life.

According to police, Espinoza then opened fire on Jamiel, killing him only feet away from his house. His father heard the gunshots that would take his son from his side forever.

At the time of his murder, Jamiel’s mom, Anita Shaw, was deployed in Iraq with the U.S. Army. She returned home for his funeral.

Espinoza has pleaded not guilty and is awaiting trial for first-degree murder.

BecauseLos Angeles is a sanctuary city for illegal aliens, even violent gang members such as Espinoza are all too often placed back into the communities they terrorize, rather than turning them over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement for deportation.

The Shaw family continues to fight for the passage of "Jamiel's Law" which would force Los Angeles law enforcement to crack down upon and target illegal alien gang members, much the same way the Shaw family and many others believe that those same illegal aliens are now targeting the black residents of L.A.

The family has a website dedicated to Jamiel, and the passage of the measure. Visitors can make a donation through the website, all donations go to purchasing media ads to promote "Jamiel’s Law" and to raise awareness of the dangers posed by illegal aliens to American citizens.

In late 2010, this reporter spoke with Jamiel’s aunt, Althea Rae Shaw, who said of her nephew: "I just miss him so much, he loved his country and he was so proud that his mom was serving in Iraq…he couldn’t wait to see her come home."

When asked what message she would like her community to hear, Mrs. Shaw said: "We really need to target Supervisor Ridley Thomas, we need to recall him and we really need a new city council."

"We need a city council geared to protecting American citizens, instead of illegal aliens. We need public officials who will stop bowing down to illegal aliens," she added.

Jamiel Shaw was not a gang member, nor was he a 'troubled youth,' nor did he fit into any of the categories or labels our society so often uses to explain away a senseless murder. He was a good kid with a very bright future, loved by a strong family…a family who still loves him and who still fights for him.

The Shaw family continues to fight for the passage of "Jamiel’s Law" which would force Los Angeles law enforcement to crack down upon and target illegal alien gang members, much the same way the Shaw family and many others believe that those same illegal aliens are now targeting the black residents of L.A.

where is jesse and al today?
 

Whitewing

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The average American citizen has no idea of the violence that the drug-related latinos (especially Mexicans) are capable of inflicting on others, even innocents.

And what are the politicians doing? Trying to figure out how to give millions more undocumented democrats sanctuary in the US.

As Ive said, it's over, unfortunately.
 

mrj

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Similar scenes will play out all over the USA if people in EVERY community don't stop giving drug use and trafficking a 'pass', with too light sentences IF they are ever arrested.

Recreational drug use is glamorized on TV and in movies, tolerated in our communities, and treated similar to alcohol during prohibition, to our shame and pain when good family members fall prey to that false 'glamour'.

Why do we continue to look the other way and, at most in too many cases, simply blame it on lack of character in others? Terrible CRIMES are committed by too many people involved in use and trade in such illegal drugs.

Why are we failing to demand effective action to STOP this abuse of people in our communities?

mrj
 

DustDevil

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Whitewing said:
The average American citizen has no idea of the violence that the drug-related latinos (especially Mexicans) are capable of inflicting on others, even innocents.

And what are the politicians doing? Trying to figure out how to give millions more undocumented democrats sanctuary in the US.

As Ive said, it's over, unfortunately.

Where do we go ? Even Stan Lynde has left Montana for Equador.
 

Steve

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The average American citizen has no idea of the violence that the drug-related latinos (especially Mexicans) are capable of inflicting on others, even innocents.

I would say about once or twice a month there is a report of a rape of sexual assault,.. usually against a minor.. and the criminal is an illegal..

Some experts believe this is a overly conservative figure and that illegal immigrants number close to 20 million.

At the same time, after a steady annual reduction in crime, the annual FBI Uniform Crime Report reveals a slow but sure yearly increase in crime, especially violent crime. Some criminologists attribute the rise in crime to illegal aliens who come into the United States with a criminal background.

Many illegal aliens in the United States have been arrested and incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails, adding to already overcrowded prisons and jails. The US Justice Department issued a report on criminal aliens who are incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails.

The report contained information on the number of criminal aliens incarcerated, their country of citizenship or country of birth, and the cost to incarcerate them. Congress also requested that the Government Accounting Office provide information on the criminal history of aliens incarcerated in federal and state prisons or local jails who had entered the country illegally.

In the population study of a sample of 55,322 illegal aliens, researchers found that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990.

They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien.

According to the Paw Hispanic Center website, in their investigation of immigration crime statistics and the federal law courts records, 40% of all sentenced federal offenders were Latinos. Of those, 72% were not U.S. citizens.


and that is just the ones who are caught..
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
Hey Steve, the good news is, that they won't be illegals for much longer.

yep,.. some will be democrats,.. and some will be criminals..

some might be democrats and criminals..

if we want to solve "undocumented",.. make them all get an ID card..
get their finger prints and DNA taken.. a background check.. and if they don't get an ID they will be automatically excluded from any future immigration plan.. (and subject to automatic deportation if detained for a crime)..

once we have a good count and a back ground check.. then we can "talk"

until then.. this amnesty is one dumb idea...
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve said:
hypocritexposer said:
Hey Steve, the good news is, that they won't be illegals for much longer.

yep,.. some will be democrats,.. and some will be criminals..

some might be democrats and criminals..

if we want to solve "undocumented",.. make them all get an ID card..
get their finger prints and DNA taken.. a background check.. and if they don't get an ID they will be automatically excluded from any future immigration plan.. (and subject to automatic deportation if detained for a crime)..

once we have a good count and a back ground check.. then we can "talk"

until then.. this amnesty is one dumb idea...

why not just set up your immigration system to bring in "skilled workers", like Canada's, instead of basing it on family, instead of economically.

I still don't understand how they are going to get illegals to become citizens. It's not like the Democrats are interested in any kind of enforcement of laws/regulations/ or stipends.

why would they? they get all the benefits at present, without paying the taxes.
 

Steve

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why not just set up your immigration system to bring in "skilled workers", like Canada's, instead of basing it on family, instead of economically.

duh,... that could possibles displace Union jobs

our immigrants do jobs no one wants.. like carpenter,. plumber.. hotel desk clerks.. ect..
 
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