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Monday, Nov. 27, 2006 11:34 a.m. EST
Poll: Giuliani, McCain, Obama Are Hot


Americans have the warmest feelings about former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Republican Sen. John McCain and Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, according to a poll released Monday that scores the popularity of national leaders.


The Quinnipiac University's "thermometer reading," taken the week after the Nov. 7 election, asked voters to rate their feelings for 20 leaders on a scale of 0 to 100.


Giuliani, a Republican weighing a presidential bid in 2008, scored the highest at 64.2. Obama and McCain, who are also considering a 2008 campaign, finished next at 58.8 and 57.7.

President Bush was 15th out of 20 while his secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, was fourth and former President Clinton fifth.


New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton scored ninth of the 20 leaders with a score of 49. Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic nominee who was roundly criticized before the election for suggesting that students who don't study could end up stuck in Iraq, came in last at 39.6.
Kerry later apologized for what he said was a botched joke.


Democratic Rep. Nancy Pelosi, in line to become the next House Speaker, improved her standing, moving from last to 12th in a few weeks. The next Senate Majority leader, Democrat Harry Reid, was 19th.
"As we enter the presidential campaign of 2008, Giuliani and McCain are in enviable positions," said Peter Brown, assistant poll director. "They are well-regarded and most Americans are quite familiar with them. Obama's showing is impressive, but four in 10 Americans still don't know enough about him to have an opinion."


The telephone poll was conducted from Nov. 13-19. Quinnipiac surveyed 1,623 registered voters nationwide and the poll has a sampling error margin of plus or minus 2.4 percentage points.



© 2006 Associated Press.
 

aplusmnt

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How could Obama be considered for anything? I think he is a Hollywood politician, promoted from the likes of Oprah. To hear them talk about him being president is a Joke.
 

Econ101

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aplusmnt said:
How could Obama be considered for anything? I think he is a Hollywood politician, promoted from the likes of Oprah. To hear them talk about him being president is a Joke.

So I take it he can't count on your vote?
 

aplusmnt

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Econ101 said:
aplusmnt said:
How could Obama be considered for anything? I think he is a Hollywood politician, promoted from the likes of Oprah. To hear them talk about him being president is a Joke.

So I take it he can't count on your vote?

No vote from me, Would you vote for him?
 

IL Rancher

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He is a well spoken, very polished politician who has had some heck of good reception to his speeches and does well on the Sunday morning programs. Should he be taken seriously as a possible presidential canidate? Maybe although I think he will have tough sledding in some states.

. One of the reasons he is so attractive to some folks is because he doesn't have much of a record and the skelotons either haven't started showing up in his closet or there just aren't any (the cynic in me will add YET) which would be hard to believe with his power base being an Illinois politician, and worse yet a Chicago area one..


Polls like this are meaningless in so many ways because it is who the folks who vote in th primaries select not the people who answer these surveys..
 

Econ101

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Unless I see him as a sell out from here on out, I would consider voting for him. It depends on the republican candidate. If the republicans send up another politician instead of someone who can rise above that, I would seriously consider voting for a democrat. If the democrat is or has Hillary on the ticket, given the history of the Clintons and now the Bushes with corporate america and in particular Tyson Foods, I would not vote for him in any circumstance.

I like how he is well spoken, takes his time and doesn't just do knee jerk reactions. We need people who can think deeper and aren't pushed over the edge by other politicians. I think he commands that respect and has a lot of charisma.

I also like that he has been a politician for some time, though not on the federal level long, and does not have any scandals following him. That shows character that he isn't tainted yet--that we know of.

His being black is no problem for me. One of the best things out there is a good black man who is well spoken and has character. I appreciate those traits in black people with all they have been through. Sometimes in the deep south you just don't see that. If he can rise above that, it shows character. I will judge the man on his character rather than his skin. He seems to have a good family that he is loyal to, another plus. His christianity is a main stream protestant, which is in his favor.

We'll see.
 

aplusmnt

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Kolan and econ.....the fact that you would even consider Obama shows how much you really know about Politics and the world we live in.

No one in their right mind would even be talking about this newbie as leader of the Free World.

All he has shown us is that he is a soft spoken politician that speaks well and cleans up good for shows like Oprah.

You do not even put a person like him in your top 100 of running the most powerful country in the world.

Twenty years from now maybe I could respect your opinions but at this point you are showing just how anti Republican you are.
 

kolanuraven

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Well at least Obama doesn't act like Howdy Doodie and try to climb over the podium when giving a speech.

What wonderful long list of accomplishments did bush have BEFORE he became leader of the Free World then? Name them??

His Daddy put him into every financial position and political position he's ever held!! But then, I guess if I was his Daddy I'd make sure he had plenty of money too cause I'd not want to have to worry about keeping him & habits up!!!
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
Well at least Obama doesn't act like Howdy Doodie and try to climb over the podium when giving a speech.

What wonderful long list of accomplishments did bush have BEFORE he became leader of the Free World then? Name them??

His Daddy put him into every financial position and political position he's ever held!! But then, I guess if I was his Daddy I'd make sure he had plenty of money too cause I'd not want to have to worry about keeping him & habits up!!!

You sure are a bitter person aren't you! You need to get out a little and relax quit sitting in front of the TV and Computer 24-7 eating bom boms building this Republican hatred that you have.

Why are liberals so bitter? Why do they only have negative things to say about Republicans, Why do they so willing to elect unqualified people in their party that basically run on the platform that they are not Republicans? When will they ever search their party and have someone run on the platform of what they will do for the country instead of what they will not do..

Even if you were correct in Bush not having any experience before becoming president why would you want the same mistake made twice?
 

kolanuraven

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Even if you were correct in Bush not having any experience before becoming president


What? 'If I was right' :???: :???: DUH...where you been???
He had NO, nunca, nada, zed, zero & zilch ( any more ways to that?) experience as the leader of anything?

We won't make the same mistake twice....did ya catch the last election by any chance???

I don't hate Rep's for the sake of hating something. Heck, I even voted Rep in the last election so can't hang that banner on me!!!
 

Econ101

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reader (the Second) said:
Republicans ran Bush to avoid McCain. They expected him to be a 1 term president and then 9/11 happened. I don't know what they were thinking but they have to be kicking themselves now.

Although someone said and correctly so that it just proves you do not want the same party in control of executive and legislative branches -- leads to arrogance and partisan behavior. Well duh.

I think avoiding McCain was a mistake. The corporate elites wanted Bush because they knew he would play their game and let congress sell out for campaign contributions. That was Karl Rove's strategy. McCain would have captained a much tighter ship and not allowed the republicans to get into so much trouble.

Don't tell aplus though, he just can't see it.
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
He had NO, nunca, nada, zed, zero & zilch ( any more ways to that?) experience as the leader of anything?



We won't make the same mistake twice....did ya catch the last election by any chance???

First I thought he was Governor of Texas some time back not sure have to google it :roll:

kolanuraven said:
We won't make the same mistake twice....did ya catch the last election by any chance???

I thought you just said above that you would make that same mistake again, you said you would vote for Obama. Even Kerry did not flip flop so quickly, he let a few hours get by before he changed his mind on things. :lol: :lol:
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
Oh..so if you're just a Gov....then that's all you require to be Pres in your mind? No other skills needed??

No just pointing out that you do not know what you are talking about as usual. And that you are flip flopping on not voting for someone with no experiance.

Lots of things come into play on being president. I guess Bush must have had what it took it accomplished it twice huh? Obama would get beat so bad it would be the biggest joke ever of a presidential candidate in history.

The Democratic party knows this, Obama knows it. The talk of him is just trying to validate him in the position he already is. If people talk about him being president then surely he is a good senator. When in reality is has did nothing to merit any consideration for anything. He is just a Poster Child for the Blacks and Dem's.

You and econ are the only people I have ever heard say they would vote for him. And you guys are just such Republican and Bush haters you would vote for anyone no matte what their Policies or lack of them was as long as he was not a Republican.
 

Econ101

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aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
Oh..so if you're just a Gov....then that's all you require to be Pres in your mind? No other skills needed??

No just pointing out that you do not know what you are talking about as usual. And that you are flip flopping on not voting for someone with no experiance.

Lots of things come into play on being president. I guess Bush must have had what it took it accomplished it twice huh? Obama would get beat so bad it would be the biggest joke ever of a presidential candidate in history.

The Democratic party knows this, Obama knows it. The talk of him is just trying to validate him in the position he already is. If people talk about him being president then surely he is a good senator. When in reality is has did nothing to merit any consideration for anything. He is just a Poster Child for the Blacks and Dem's.

You and econ are the only people I have ever heard say they would vote for him. And you guys are just such Republican and Bush haters you would vote for anyone no matte what their Policies or lack of them was as long as he was not a Republican.

I didn't say I would vote for him. I said I would consider it. Your palm reading has a lot to be desired. I wouldn't make any big moves because of it.

If you could read, you might be worth arguing with. Since you can't, why don't you get the facts straight before you get on your high horse.


And by the way, if we are the only people you have talked to, get out and meet some others. You need a better social life than that.
 

aplusmnt

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Econ101 said:
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
Oh..so if you're just a Gov....then that's all you require to be Pres in your mind? No other skills needed??

No just pointing out that you do not know what you are talking about as usual. And that you are flip flopping on not voting for someone with no experiance.

Lots of things come into play on being president. I guess Bush must have had what it took it accomplished it twice huh? Obama would get beat so bad it would be the biggest joke ever of a presidential candidate in history.

The Democratic party knows this, Obama knows it. The talk of him is just trying to validate him in the position he already is. If people talk about him being president then surely he is a good senator. When in reality is has did nothing to merit any consideration for anything. He is just a Poster Child for the Blacks and Dem's.

You and econ are the only people I have ever heard say they would vote for him. And you guys are just such Republican and Bush haters you would vote for anyone no matte what their Policies or lack of them was as long as he was not a Republican.

I didn't say I would vote for him. I said I would consider it. Your palm reading has a lot to be desired. I wouldn't make any big moves because of it.

If you could read, you might be worth arguing with. Since you can't, why don't you get the facts straight before you get on your high horse.


And by the way, if we are the only people you have talked to, get out and meet some others. You need a better social life than that.

I stand corrected! I should have said econ and kolan are the only two people I have ever talked to that would even consider voting for Obama.

I get around talking to people and no one has even mentioned Obama's name. He will only be considered by the Oprah crowd and Liberal Media that likes to throw a Black man into the pot to stir things up a little more. Hillary and McCain are not enough so they will throw an Obama in there just for the sake of good news.

If I am not worth arguing with you sure have did it a lot. Please for your own sake avoid being a Hypocrite. :wink:
 

Econ101

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aplusmnt said:
Econ101 said:
aplusmnt said:
No just pointing out that you do not know what you are talking about as usual. And that you are flip flopping on not voting for someone with no experiance.

Lots of things come into play on being president. I guess Bush must have had what it took it accomplished it twice huh? Obama would get beat so bad it would be the biggest joke ever of a presidential candidate in history.

The Democratic party knows this, Obama knows it. The talk of him is just trying to validate him in the position he already is. If people talk about him being president then surely he is a good senator. When in reality is has did nothing to merit any consideration for anything. He is just a Poster Child for the Blacks and Dem's.

You and econ are the only people I have ever heard say they would vote for him. And you guys are just such Republican and Bush haters you would vote for anyone no matte what their Policies or lack of them was as long as he was not a Republican.

I didn't say I would vote for him. I said I would consider it. Your palm reading has a lot to be desired. I wouldn't make any big moves because of it.

If you could read, you might be worth arguing with. Since you can't, why don't you get the facts straight before you get on your high horse.


And by the way, if we are the only people you have talked to, get out and meet some others. You need a better social life than that.

I stand corrected! I should have said econ and kolan are the only two people I have ever talked to that would even consider voting for Obama.

I get around talking to people and no one has even mentioned Obama's name. He will only be considered by the Oprah crowd and Liberal Media that likes to throw a Black man into the pot to stir things up a little more. Hillary and McCain are not enough so they will throw an Obama in there just for the sake of good news.

If I am not worth arguing with you sure have did it a lot. Please for your own sake avoid being a Hypocrite. :wink:

Sometimes you do things that aren't worth it just for the heck of it. :wink: :wink: :wink:
 

aplusmnt

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Econ101 said:
aplusmnt said:
Econ101 said:
I didn't say I would vote for him. I said I would consider it. Your palm reading has a lot to be desired. I wouldn't make any big moves because of it.

If you could read, you might be worth arguing with. Since you can't, why don't you get the facts straight before you get on your high horse.


And by the way, if we are the only people you have talked to, get out and meet some others. You need a better social life than that.

I stand corrected! I should have said econ and kolan are the only two people I have ever talked to that would even consider voting for Obama.

I get around talking to people and no one has even mentioned Obama's name. He will only be considered by the Oprah crowd and Liberal Media that likes to throw a Black man into the pot to stir things up a little more. Hillary and McCain are not enough so they will throw an Obama in there just for the sake of good news.

If I am not worth arguing with you sure have did it a lot. Please for your own sake avoid being a Hypocrite. :wink:

Sometimes you do things that aren't worth it just for the heck of it. :wink: :wink: :wink:

From what I have seen of you, you might be a little confused but you are not ignorant by any means. You know as well as me that Obama should not even be mentioned by anyone as the Next President Of the U.S. Come on fess up?
 

Econ101

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aplusmnt said:
Econ101 said:
aplusmnt said:
I stand corrected! I should have said econ and kolan are the only two people I have ever talked to that would even consider voting for Obama.

I get around talking to people and no one has even mentioned Obama's name. He will only be considered by the Oprah crowd and Liberal Media that likes to throw a Black man into the pot to stir things up a little more. Hillary and McCain are not enough so they will throw an Obama in there just for the sake of good news.

If I am not worth arguing with you sure have did it a lot. Please for your own sake avoid being a Hypocrite. :wink:

Sometimes you do things that aren't worth it just for the heck of it. :wink: :wink: :wink:

From what I have seen of you, you might be a little confused but you are not ignorant by any means. You know as well as me that Obama should not even be mentioned by anyone as the Next President Of the U.S. Come on fess up?

After seeing what you call experience gives us--scandals in Congress, lack of oversight, arrogance, hubris, the executive branch filling key positions with industry lackeys, huge campaign contributions because of it, a war poorly executed, lack of intelligence on multiple levels, and on and on and on........

I think a little inexperience might be just the thing we need. Experience in DC has come to mean how good you can sell out and not get caught.
 
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