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Guiliano is Toast!!!!

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Rudi spent $40 Million on his campaign in Florida- concentrating almost entirely on that state- a make or break gamble.....

Well it looks like it was a break- as he's running neck and neck with Huckleberry for 3rd and 4th and is far, far, far behind the leaders with only 14% of the vote......

Pundits say he will drop out-- and endorse McCain.....
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
Rudi spent $40 Million on his campaign in Florida- concentrating almost entirely on that state- a make or break gamble.....

Well it looks like it was a break- as he's running neck and neck with Huckleberry for 3rd and 4th and is far, far, far behind the leaders with only 14% of the vote......

Pundits say he will drop out-- and endorse McCain.....

I am not sure if that is a blessing or not. Not sure McCain is any better. Really not sure if I care which Republican gets it.

I think this year will be like the last two elections. People will vote against the Democrat not for the Republican.
 
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aplusmnt said:
Oldtimer said:
Rudi spent $40 Million on his campaign in Florida- concentrating almost entirely on that state- a make or break gamble.....

Well it looks like it was a break- as he's running neck and neck with Huckleberry for 3rd and 4th and is far, far, far behind the leaders with only 14% of the vote......

Pundits say he will drop out-- and endorse McCain.....

I am not sure if that is a blessing or not. Not sure McCain is any better. Really not sure if I care which Republican gets it.

I think this year will be like the last two elections. People will vote against the Democrat not for the Republican.

I think in the end there will be more vote against GW Bush and for the Democrat....Thats the reason I don't think its so smart for both McCain and Rumney to be running so pro to and backing GW's policies- especially on the Iraq war- that 60+% of people still believe we should get our troops out of- and when GW's approval rating is riding around 30% for the last several years.....

This might be what they need to do to get Repub nomination--but can't get them elected- and may spell their defeat....People want CHANGE- and a big change....The reason that all the Democratic primaries have had 2 and 3 times higher the number of voters turnout as normal--many of which are disgruntled Repubs and Independents voting on the Democrat ticket....

At least Huckleberry has distanced and isolated himself from GW to some extent--which makes him hated by the establishment Republicans- but would give him more of a chance in Nov...

But in just the last few weeks since Huckleberry has been floundering- and McCain and Rumney have been touting the warhawk song and dance and backing GW's policies--all the Republicans have fell behind the head to head polls (and continue dropping)- no matter which of the 3 Democrats they were facing in the poll...
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
The reason that all the Democratic primaries have had 2 and 3 times higher the number of voters turnout as normal--many of which are disgruntled Repubs and Independents voting on the Democrat ticket....

My theory is that Dems are coming out in large numbers because there is such large numbers that don't want a Black Man, A woman, or a Clinton or a newbie. I think the mass negatives in the Democratic party is bringing out good numbers not to vote for someone but to vote against a specific candidate. And that those negatives will flip to republican votes come the general election.

My prediction is no matter who is the republican candidate he will beat either Hillary or Obama by record numbers come the general election. Due to the reasons stated above.
 

loomixguy

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A vote for McCain may as well be a vote for Hitlary, or, as Teddy Kennedy calls him, O'Bama, as there is NO DIFFERENCE in the three. If McCain becomes the nominee, I could possibly vote for O'Bama, but I would rather be in Hell with my back broken twice before I would vote for Hitlary OR McCain. McCain has gotten all the mileage there is out of his POW status. It doesn't mean he is fit to run for dogcatcher, let alone President.
 

kolanuraven

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What are you Rep's thinking? :???: :???: :???:


McCain plainly says he does not know about the workings of the economy, he's OK with open door immigration and anti tax cut...all the things that are your stated problems with Bush now. :roll: :roll:


If he does not know about the economy and it's workings....and he's big on Security which equals WAR...how ya gonna pay for that war(s) with no money in the bank? Gonna borrow from China again like we've done for this latest war?


You guys need to wake up...you're sliding into that same ditch again.
 
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The polls actually show McCain as the strongest candidate against any one of the Dems...But still getting beat by several points...

Huckleberry and Rumney are way behind in the head to head matchups with either Clinton or Obama- and falling further behind every day...

I think McCain/Rumney will get left in the dust as soon as one gets nominated--as they are all pretty much one issue guys right now--Rumney economy (but he wants more of the same GW economy that got us in this mess- and folks ain't that dumb) and McCain is only on security- beating his hawkish drumbeat-Iraq war-- which the majority of folks are sick and tired of doling their money out to....

Folks want their money used to build and rebuild their country-- not given out to some high Priest sitting in an Iraq mosque or thousands of corrupt Iraqui politicians....

I heard Edwards dropped out- which will change the Democrat dynamics...
 

backhoeboogie

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kolanuraven said:
What are you Rep's thinking? :???: :???: :???:

Toast is exactly what I am thinking. Toast for all working Americans. The 35% up front income tax, and then sales taxes, property taxes, gasoline and fuel taxes renders you keeping about half of your earnings if you are lucky. That's all going to change real soon. Maybe we'll get to spend a quarter of our earnings?

Any Rep in the office is a lame duck with Pelosi behind the seat. The Senate and Congress are lost. If you are dirt poor or living on welfare, you should be in very good shape, no matter what happens.

Eyes will open afterwards. If Hitlary gets the nomination, we'll likely get a Rep President and the ongoings will continue as they are. If we get a Osama, we probably won't go totally socialistic but heads will spin by next election once they are through. No need to save and invest while they are in there. If you have money to save, you need to be taxed more. Just ask Pelosi.
 
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Now I heard Edwards is endorsing Obama...An Obama/Edwards ticket would be almost unbeatable-...
 

T99

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Hold on OT - Edwards is NOT endorsing anyone yet, in fact that's supposedly going to be part of his announcement - that he's NOT endorsing anyone at this time. Some of the experts say his delegates will more than likely go to Clinton but I'm not so sure....... I think Obama will be the one too, hopefully with Edwards as VP.
 
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T99 said:
Hold on OT - Edwards is NOT endorsing anyone yet, in fact that's supposedly going to be part of his announcement - that he's NOT endorsing anyone at this time. Some of the experts say his delegates will more than likely go to Clinton but I'm not so sure....... I think Obama will be the one too, hopefully with Edwards as VP.

Apparently one of his "Aides" jumped the gun this morning- and told the press that he prefers Obama- and that led to the endorsement reports....

Anyway thats what the radio was saying while I was feeding..Probably play some power games first...

On another blog I was reading last night- it said both Hitlery and Obama were after Richardsons (latino) endorsement before Super Tuesday--but that he was saying nothing....Their thoughts were that while he was close to the Clintons- he might follow his mentor Teddy Kennedy and endorse Obama- just all depending on which offered him the most in the new White House :roll: :(
 

T99

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I'd guess that Richardson's chance of a cabinet post are pretty good, no matter who ends up in the White House.
 

Faster horses

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Glenn Beck had sound bytes this morning exposing what a liar McCain is. Security? He wants OPEN BORDERS. And GB maintains if he gets the presidency, with the Dem's in power, open borders are a shoo-in. We are in deep trouble.

I wish I had the script from this mornings broadcast. I'll see if I can find it.

Glenn Beck says McCain is more dangerous than Hillary.
 

kolanuraven

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Oldtimer said:
T99 said:
Hold on OT - Edwards is NOT endorsing anyone yet, in fact that's supposedly going to be part of his announcement - that he's NOT endorsing anyone at this time. Some of the experts say his delegates will more than likely go to Clinton but I'm not so sure....... I think Obama will be the one too, hopefully with Edwards as VP.

Apparently one of his "Aides" jumped the gun this morning- and told the press that he prefers Obama- and that led to the endorsement reports....

Anyway thats what the radio was saying while I was feeding..Probably play some power games first...

On another blog I was reading last night- it said both Hitlery and Obama were after Richardsons (latino) endorsement before Super Tuesday--but that he was saying nothing....Their thoughts were that while he was close to the Clintons- he might follow his mentor Teddy Kennedy and endorse Obama- just all depending on which offered him the most in the new White House :roll: :(


Edwards won't say anything until after Feb 5th.

Richards would be a PLUS to any cabinet in any position.
 

T99

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I thought this was McCain's OLD stance on immigration/open borders. Didn't he come out a few months ago and say that he was listening to the people and he realized he'd been wrong? I honestly haven't paid much attention to him but I could have sworn that he had a new position on that now.
 

kolanuraven

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T99 said:
I thought this was McCain's OLD stance on immigration/open borders. Didn't he come out a few months ago and say that he was listening to the people and he realized he'd been wrong? I honestly haven't paid much attention to him but I could have sworn that he had a new position on that now.


He's pretty good at switching back and forth on his positions!!! He's the original ' flip-flopper' it seems.
 

Faster horses

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Flip-flopper. In this case he is LYING to the American people.

Glenn Beck is mad as hell about what he found out. I think he's going to have more on the subject all week.
 
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Faster horses said:
Glenn Beck had sound bytes this morning exposing what a liar McCain is. Security? He wants OPEN BORDERS. And GB maintains if he gets the presidency, with the Dem's in power, open borders are a shoo-in. We are in deep trouble.

I wish I had the script from this mornings broadcast. I'll see if I can find it.

Glenn Beck says McCain is more dangerous than Hillary.

I like listening to Glenn on tv at night...He and Dobbs flat tell the politicians of both parties where the bear poops in the woods....

McCain now says he would close the borders first- then deport all the "bad folk"- but still plans on leaving 10 million illegal invaders in the country- to allow them to work toward citizenship....

The neocons in the current establishment D.C. don't want McCain or Huckleberry...These neocons want Rumney because they think the Corporate world/Wall Street will get another 4 (or 8) years of no restrictions or oversight- and wide open globalism and free trade as he's a very pro Big Business....

Interestingly- by the way they've voted in the past- and what they say they are supporting now, the website On the Issues rates both McCain and Rumney as being Populists-leaning conservative...They list ole Huckleberry as the only Conservative- and Ron Paul as a Libertarian... http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm

I just don't see Rumney or Huckleberry as being electable...And McCain is the only one in the current polls that are shown that has a chance of beating both Hitlery and Osama......But he scares me too......
I think the polls will go much more toward the Dems- once they get the candidates chosen- and they start arguing the issues that the folks on the street think are most important--the economy, health care costs and health insurance availability and cost, Iraq (60% still want troops home in a year), Social Security, etc. etc....

I don't think a candidate beating Bush's globalist economy drum or supporting his hawkish foreign affairs and war attitude can get elected in the US this year....
 

Steve

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kolanuraven said:
What are you Rep's thinking? :???: :???: :???:


McCain plainly says he does not know about the workings of the economy, he's OK with open door immigration and anti tax cut...all the things that are your stated problems with Bush now. :roll: :roll:


If he does not know about the economy and it's workings....and he's big on Security which equals WAR...how ya gonna pay for that war(s) with no money in the bank? Gonna borrow from China again like we've done for this latest war?


You guys need to wake up...you're sliding into that same ditch again.

Most of that are old enough remember the ditch we fell in last time the party looked this broken up heading into an election.....

if your to young or your memory is to fogged.. most refer to them as the Carter years... and that became under Democratic leadership more of a pit, then a ditch...
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
Now I heard Edwards is endorsing Obama...An Obama/Edwards ticket would be almost unbeatable-...

I can not believe you think this! I am telling you Obama will not get elected or Hillary. And no ticket with Edwards on it will have a chance.

And no way that any of them will beat McCain if he is the nominee.

I predict a landslide victory for the Republicans, no matter who is one either side.

I think once you look at the issues they should not get elected and then the only people with less favor than Bush is the Democratic Congress that the people gave a chance to make change and they did nothing! They hurt the chances at Dem president because the proved the Dems talk big but actually offer nothing.

Then Obama has the black man up hill battle and Hillary the woman up hill battle, when you combine those with their weak socialist policies they will not get elected. Basically you have a black and female Kerry that could not pull it off.

Ain't going to happen! The media and pollsters can try to manipulate it into happening much like they are trying too on the Recession issue but it will not work.
 
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