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hopalong

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Conspicuously missing is our cry baby sheriff who is afraid of some 12 yr old having a gun!!!!!!!!

Bad 12 yr old shooting rabbits, gophers,snakes, and other vermen!

bad bad bad!!
OH VEY oldtimer EH????
 

CattleArmy

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Sandhusker said:
Has anybody noticed that none of our gun-control whack jobs has explained what problem this gun ban will fix?


I support guns for hunting. It's a sport and I realize the fact that many enjoy it. I have guns locked up safe in my home that are used for this purpose. I don't think there is a need for many of the handguns and other assault weapons outside of the police. Go on and on about protecting your home, your family and such, but then step back and realize the rifle you shoot deer with can be just as much of a threat to an intruder as the semi automatic and handguns.

P.S. I'm still against concealed weapons too.
 

CattleArmy

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Mike said:
What bothers me about the Moonbats and Gun Control is that there are laws in all 50 states that make it illegal "to shoot" or "threaten to shoot" someone with a gun................no matter what kind of gun it is...................


Somebody forgot to take their meds today. :shock: :eek:
 

Ben H

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I couldn't disagree with you more CattleArmy. Maybe you don't' see a need for those weapons with certain features, it's your choice not to buy them. But to support infringing on the rights of others who do feel the need to have them? That is unacceptable. The fact is that the anti-gun movement will never stop until they have met their goal of no guns. They attempt to divide and conquer. We must stand together for what the Constitution says,"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", we can not allow certain types of weapons be taken away at a time. If they are successful with so called "assault" weapons first, then handguns, then you get bet the next class of weapons will be "sniper rifles" after some anti gunner gets taken out by a pissed off American. "Sniper Rifles" will be classified as any with scopes on them. ATF and FBI agree that the AWB was ineffective because those guns just aren't used very much for crime.

Your hunting rifle may be sufficient for one intruder, but once you have become efficient at handling a handgun or "assault rifle" then a hunting rifle for that purpose would be foolish.

Hunting is not what the second amendment is about, If you allow it to be, and they ban "non hunting" guns, then they can focus on hunters. Hate to tell you, but you don't have as much of a say any more. Fewer and fewer people are hunting.

Why is it that places with more restrictive gun laws have higher crime rates then those with less restrictive gun laws?

Different weapon classes are used for controlling your environment out to certain distances. First is the Handgun, then the shot gun, followed by the "assault rifle" then the "sniper rifle" aka hunting rifle. As you increase the distance of engagement you reduce your field of view, that makes it more difficult to deal with multiple threats.

We're going into a depression, get used to it because it's coming. We have no idea how things will play out, but people can do some extreme things when they start surviving on 800 calories a day. We don't know what we may need to protect families from.

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Sandhusker

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CattleArmy said:
Mike said:
What bothers me about the Moonbats and Gun Control is that there are laws in all 50 states that make it illegal "to shoot" or "threaten to shoot" someone with a gun................no matter what kind of gun it is...................


Somebody forgot to take their meds today. :shock: :eek:

Is he wrong?
 

Larrry

Well-known member
If someone doesn't want a gun because they are scared of them then they have that right to not own one. I however have the RIGHT to have them. Do not impose your fears of guns on me.
 

aplusmnt

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CattleArmy said:
Go on and on about protecting your home, your family and such, but then step back and realize the rifle you shoot deer with can be just as much of a threat to an intruder as the semi automatic and handguns.

So you want people toting around a Remington 700 7mm Mag when an intruder enters their home? You want a missed shot to go through their walls through the outside wall of the neighbor home and then kill the neighbors little baby as he sleeps in his crib? All because he had to use his Deer rifle to protect his home? :roll:

Or would you prefer the home owner misses with 1st shot and in the time it took to use the bolt action, the intruder hits him over head then as the home owner is unconscious the crook enters the room of his 12 year old daughter and proceeds to rape and sodomize her? :shock:

All this because you have no sense of balance on gun ownership and you wish to infringe on my American rights? :mad:

You better stick to TV, the real world is a little more complex! :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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CattleArmy said:
Sandhusker said:
Has anybody noticed that none of our gun-control whack jobs has explained what problem this gun ban will fix?


I support guns for hunting. It's a sport and I realize the fact that many enjoy it. I have guns locked up safe in my home that are used for this purpose. I don't think there is a need for many of the handguns and other assault weapons outside of the police. Go on and on about protecting your home, your family and such, but then step back and realize the rifle you shoot deer with can be just as much of a threat to an intruder as the semi automatic and handguns.

P.S. I'm still against concealed weapons too.

You don't understand the Second Amendment.
 

CattleArmy

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
CattleArmy said:
Mike said:
What bothers me about the Moonbats and Gun Control is that there are laws in all 50 states that make it illegal "to shoot" or "threaten to shoot" someone with a gun................no matter what kind of gun it is...................


Somebody forgot to take their meds today. :shock: :eek:

Is he wrong?

Yes, it should be illegal to threaten to shoot someone.
 

CattleArmy

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
CattleArmy said:
Sandhusker said:
Has anybody noticed that none of our gun-control whack jobs has explained what problem this gun ban will fix?


I support guns for hunting. It's a sport and I realize the fact that many enjoy it. I have guns locked up safe in my home that are used for this purpose. I don't think there is a need for many of the handguns and other assault weapons outside of the police. Go on and on about protecting your home, your family and such, but then step back and realize the rifle you shoot deer with can be just as much of a threat to an intruder as the semi automatic and handguns.

P.S. I'm still against concealed weapons too.

You don't understand the Second Amendment.


I'm not talking about the Second Amendment I'm stating my opinion on what guns are ok in my opinion and which ones I wouldn't mind seeing banned. Strictly my opinion.
 

CattleArmy

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Larrry said:
If someone doesn't want a gun because they are scared of them then they have that right to not own one. I however have the RIGHT to have them. Do not impose your fears of guns on me.


It's not my fear of the guns it's the fear of the wackjobs that have them.
 

CattleArmy

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
CattleArmy said:
Go on and on about protecting your home, your family and such, but then step back and realize the rifle you shoot deer with can be just as much of a threat to an intruder as the semi automatic and handguns.

So you want people toting around a Remington 700 7mm Mag when an intruder enters their home? You want a missed shot to go through their walls through the outside wall of the neighbor home and then kill the neighbors little baby as he sleeps in his crib? All because he had to use his Deer rifle to protect his home? :roll:

Or would you prefer the home owner misses with 1st shot and in the time it took to use the bolt action, the intruder hits him over head then as the home owner is unconscious the crook enters the room of his 12 year old daughter and proceeds to rape and sodomize her? :shock:

All this because you have no sense of balance on gun ownership and you wish to infringe on my American rights? :mad:

You better stick to TV, the real world is a little more complex! :wink:

Some of you seriously need to move out of the hood.

Aplus here's the thing some people who go on and on and on about needing guns to protect their families in reality need to move to a safer area. I would not want my family to live in an area I felt it was necessary for a gun to protect us. I think it's easier and more responsible to move out of the hood then to cry, whine, and bitch about needing more guns to stay safe. Aplus maybe you should watch more television and realize there's a great big world outside of Kansas.
 

Sandhusker

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CattleArmy said:
Sandhusker said:
CattleArmy said:
I support guns for hunting. It's a sport and I realize the fact that many enjoy it. I have guns locked up safe in my home that are used for this purpose. I don't think there is a need for many of the handguns and other assault weapons outside of the police. Go on and on about protecting your home, your family and such, but then step back and realize the rifle you shoot deer with can be just as much of a threat to an intruder as the semi automatic and handguns.

P.S. I'm still against concealed weapons too.



You don't understand the Second Amendment.


I'm not talking about the Second Amendment I'm stating my opinion on what guns are ok in my opinion and which ones I wouldn't mind seeing banned. Strictly my opinion.

What problems are you going to solve by banning those guns?
 

CattleArmy

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Sandhusker said:
CattleArmy said:
Sandhusker said:
You don't understand the Second Amendment.


I'm not talking about the Second Amendment I'm stating my opinion on what guns are ok in my opinion and which ones I wouldn't mind seeing banned. Strictly my opinion.

What problems are you going to solve by banning those guns?

Honestly I'm not trying to solve any problems just in my opinion the common person doesn't need to own them.
 

aplusmnt

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CattleArmy said:
aplusmnt said:
CattleArmy said:
Go on and on about protecting your home, your family and such, but then step back and realize the rifle you shoot deer with can be just as much of a threat to an intruder as the semi automatic and handguns.

So you want people toting around a Remington 700 7mm Mag when an intruder enters their home? You want a missed shot to go through their walls through the outside wall of the neighbor home and then kill the neighbors little baby as he sleeps in his crib? All because he had to use his Deer rifle to protect his home? :roll:

Or would you prefer the home owner misses with 1st shot and in the time it took to use the bolt action, the intruder hits him over head then as the home owner is unconscious the crook enters the room of his 12 year old daughter and proceeds to rape and sodomize her? :shock:

All this because you have no sense of balance on gun ownership and you wish to infringe on my American rights? :mad:

You better stick to TV, the real world is a little more complex! :wink:

Some of you seriously need to move out of the hood.

Aplus here's the thing some people who go on and on and on about needing guns to protect their families in reality need to move to a safer area. I would not want my family to live in an area I felt it was necessary for a gun to protect us. I think it's easier and more responsible to move out of the hood then to cry, whine, and bitch about needing more guns to stay safe. Aplus maybe you should watch more television and realize there's a great big world outside of Kansas.

You are changing the subject, you said their was nothing wrong with using a rifle that is used for hunting to protect ones home. I showed you were the wrong weapon at the wrong time could be more dangerous than letting someone have a appropriate one for the job at hand.

Do you want to live next door to a guy that is using his deer rifle that will penetrate multiple walls and possibly kill your family?

Besides I live in a very safe rural area, but when homes do get broke into it is not people in my area. Every home broke into that they have caught the people that did it where from cities 25 miles or more away. I can not move far enough away as so a crook in a car can not drive to my area.

You see you try to over simplify things, crime does not usually happen from your neighbors, it happens from people outside entering your area!

You need to rethink your position on deer rifles as home protection, I get nervous when I know someone is hunting 1/2 mile away from my house let alone worry a next door neighbor may shoot one off. Makes a lot more sense for them to have a short barreled assault style 12 gauge in the home than a super powerful deer rifle!
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Pro-gun Democrats oppose new assault weapon ban
By JIM ABRAMS - Associated Press Writer

Sixty-five House Democrats said Wednesday that they would oppose any attempt by the Obama administration to revive a ban on military-style weapons that President Bill Clinton signed into law in 1994 and President George W. Bush let expire.

The pro-gun Democrats, led by Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., wrote Attorney General Eric Holder that they would "actively oppose any effort to reinstate the 1994 ban, or to pass any similar law."

They urged the administration to avoid a "long and divisive fight over a gun control issue" at a time when Washington needs to concentrate on the economic crisis.

The House letter came a day after Montana's two Democratic senators, Max Baucus and Jon Tester, wrote a similar letter to Holder saying the Justice Department should enforce existing laws before considering new gun ownership restrictions. "We will strongly oppose any legislation that will infringe upon the rights of individual gun owners," they said.

The letters came after Holder, during a news conference to announce the arrest of Mexican drug dealers, said the drug cartels were obtaining high-powered weapons like the AK-47 from U.S. gun stores and said the Obama administration supported reinstituting the ban on the sale of assault-style weapons.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., has said she plans to introduce legislation to bring back the weapons ban. Feinstein was an author of the 1994 bill, which banned 19 types of semiautomatic, military-style guns. The law expired under the Bush administration in 2004. Another long-term goal is requiring that all gun shows conduct background checks before selling firearms.

The National Rifle Association has said it is mobilizing to stop any assault weapons ban, and the opposition of 65 House Democrats, many from rural or conservative districts with strong pro-gun sentiments, probably would doom any legislative drive to restrict gun ownership.

Already this year, Republicans have stalled legislation that would give the District of Columbia a voting representative in the House by linking the bill to a measure significantly weakening D.C.'s gun laws.

House Democratic leaders have put off a vote on the voting rights bill out of concern that pro-gun Democrats would oppose it if it is separated from the gun measure.
 

Larrry

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I'm not talking about the Second Amendment I'm stating my opinion on what guns are ok in my opinion and which ones I wouldn't mind seeing banned. Strictly my opinion

So you think it's alright to give away my RIGHTS. Where did I want to take away your RIGHTS?
 

Mike

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Honestly I'm not trying to solve any problems just in my opinion the common person doesn't need to own them.

What does "NEED" have to do with it?

Do you "NEED" every single tangible or intangible item you own?

It's very clear that you aren't trying to solve any problems because it's people like you who ARE the problem.

We don't "NEED" you! :lol: :lol:
 

VanC

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CattleArmy said:
aplusmnt said:
CattleArmy said:
Go on and on about protecting your home, your family and such, but then step back and realize the rifle you shoot deer with can be just as much of a threat to an intruder as the semi automatic and handguns.

So you want people toting around a Remington 700 7mm Mag when an intruder enters their home? You want a missed shot to go through their walls through the outside wall of the neighbor home and then kill the neighbors little baby as he sleeps in his crib? All because he had to use his Deer rifle to protect his home? :roll:

Or would you prefer the home owner misses with 1st shot and in the time it took to use the bolt action, the intruder hits him over head then as the home owner is unconscious the crook enters the room of his 12 year old daughter and proceeds to rape and sodomize her? :shock:

All this because you have no sense of balance on gun ownership and you wish to infringe on my American rights? :mad:

You better stick to TV, the real world is a little more complex! :wink:

Some of you seriously need to move out of the hood.

Aplus here's the thing some people who go on and on and on about needing guns to protect their families in reality need to move to a safer area. I would not want my family to live in an area I felt it was necessary for a gun to protect us. I think it's easier and more responsible to move out of the hood then to cry, whine, and bitch about needing more guns to stay safe. Aplus maybe you should watch more television and realize there's a great big world outside of Kansas.

What you don't seem to realize is that millions of people CAN'T simply move to a safer neighborhood, if such a thing exists today. Sure, there are gated communties with their own security forces to keep the riff raff out, but how many people do you think can afford to live in such a place? And what about when they want to go out in the real world to work, eat out, see a movie, go to a ball game, etc.? I guess they would have to hire a body guard to keep them safe instead of being responsible for their own safety. Good plan. :roll:

And believe it or not, there are millions of people that don't WANT to move. They want to stay where they're at, close to their jobs and families and friends, and won't slink away looking for someplace "safer". If you want to turn tail and run every time a crime is commited close by, fine. I won't, and I'm not alone.
 

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