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Gun Ban Question

Mike

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Sandhusker said:
What issues/problems would restricting gun ownership address?

Since we already have laws that prohibit killing/threatening others with ANY type of gun..... further restrictions would hold honest, law abiding citizens hostage to those that do not/will not obey the laws on the books now?
 

Larrry

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CattleArmy

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Sandhusker said:
Ever notice how quiet it gets when you ask a liberal to actually rationalize their positions?


I'll step up to bat to be typed alive. I don't know that I have a real reason for my stance on the gun issue. It more involves the thought that I don't like the thought of every tom dick and harry having handguns and semi automatic guns so easily available. Yes I know law abiding citizens aren't as likely as criminals to use them to commit crimes on their neighbors. Yet what about the guy that goes over the edge and wouldn't have massacured people without the weapon of choice?

There I typed my reason that all of you will quick to point out how dumb and unrational it is. Go ahead but I answered.
 

Sandhusker

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CattleArmy said:
Sandhusker said:
Ever notice how quiet it gets when you ask a liberal to actually rationalize their positions?


I'll step up to bat to be typed alive. I don't know that I have a real reason for my stance on the gun issue. It more involves the thought that I don't like the thought of every tom dick and harry having handguns and semi automatic guns so easily available. Yes I know law abiding citizens aren't as likely as criminals to use them to commit crimes on their neighbors. Yet what about the guy that goes over the edge and wouldn't have massacured people without the weapon of choice?

There I typed my reason that all of you will quick to point out how dumb and unrational it is. Go ahead but I answered.

It was so refreshing for a lib to respond, Thank You! It is also nice to see some honesty in admitting that you don't have a real reason. However, I take it that your answer to the question is that it would prevent a guy from going over the edge and massacreing people?

Where are the other libs?
 

Ben H

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Freedom isn't free; there are some things you have to accept for liberty. Think about how many liberties you would have to take away to prevent every kind of freak thiing you can think of. Where do you draw the line? Who draws the line? Ben Franklin said it best:

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."
-Benjamin Franklin

Go ahead and call me one of those crazy constitutionalist terrorists, I'm proud of it!

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almost forgot:

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

-Samuel Adams
 

Larrry

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Ben you nailed it


The libs in order to guarntee they are safe of these things that might happen would have to live in such a shelter that their life would be a pathetic waste of oxygen. Sure some lunatic criminal might end up shooting me but just me a chance to defend me and my family. We know that we can't rely on the police as it is physicaly impossible to protect us all.
 

nonothing

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who gives a shat ,keep your guns,as I am sure when the 2nd amendment was written they had the forsight to see every american owning a Ak-47..You conservatives sit here and talk about killing those who attack you or threaten you but if a rape victim wants an abortion your the first group to tell her she cant....Your a Mixed up bunch people if you ask me....
 

Ben H

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If she was armed she wouldn't have been raped in the first place. I'm far more conservative now that I've gotten away from the indoctrination of the public school system and college. I was always pro-choice. But there is one thing that makes me have second thoughts on the issue, that is

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
Decleration of Independence

Americans brought their own cannons/artillery pieces to the battlefield, I don't think they would have thought twice about people owning an AK-47. In fact, we allow Iraqis to own an AK-47 for home protection. Every home is allowed to have one, maybe per adult. We do have rules that they can't take them out of their homes.
 

leanin' H

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Since when is defending yourself comparable to ending a defenseless life? You may want to re-think your arguement! :roll: As far as guns being the problem what about everything else that kills people? Ya gonna ban fried chicken cause it causes hardened arterys? And after ya ban "certain guns" will ya want me to just trust ya that you won't be planning to ban them all? Banning guns makes as much sense as this: A guy drinks 1/2 the night and jumps in his car and heads home. 3 blocks down the street he swerves into the wrong lane and kills a family heading home from Wal-mart! People are outraged at the crime! They demand action! So Congress passes massive new laws........... BANNING 1/2 ton RED CHEVY PICKUPS! (which was what the idiot happened to be driving) How about demanding personal responsibility with drunks and everyone else? How about enforcing the actual law and stop passing bills to pass bills? After all, If not one gun ever exsisted, wack-jobs would kill folks with bows! Knives! Rocks! That's what we need..... a ban on rocks! :D Specially the semi-autos! :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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nonothing said:
who gives a shat ,keep your guns,as I am sure when the 2nd amendment was written they had the forsight to see every american owning a Ak-47..You conservatives sit here and talk about killing those who attack you or threaten you but if a rape victim wants an abortion your the first group to tell her she cant....Your a Mixed up bunch people if you ask me....

True to your liberal colors, you didn't address the question. Care to try again?
 

nonothing

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leanin' H said:
Since when is defending yourself comparable to ending a defenseless life? You may want to re-think your arguement! :roll: As far as guns being the problem what about everything else that kills people? Ya gonna ban fried chicken cause it causes hardened arterys? And after ya ban "certain guns" will ya want me to just trust ya that you won't be planning to ban them all? Banning guns makes as much sense as this: A guy drinks 1/2 the night and jumps in his car and heads home. 3 blocks down the street he swerves into the wrong lane and kills a family heading home from Wal-mart! People are outraged at the crime! They demand action! So Congress passes massive new laws........... BANNING 1/2 ton RED CHEVY PICKUPS! (which was what the idiot happened to be driving) How about demanding personal responsibility with drunks and everyone else? How about enforcing the actual law and stop passing bills to pass bills? After all, If not one gun ever exsisted, wack-jobs would kill folks with bows! Knives! Rocks! That's what we need..... a ban on rocks! :D Specially the semi-autos! :wink:

First off I said keep your guns....I could care less...the reson for the 2nd amendment was to protect against goverment not each other .but go ahead fill your boots..You all think guns solve your attack issues.first off how many of you even punched another person little lone shot them?.....If some one attacks you with the intent to kill, most of you will probably be dead as you have no idea about confrontation or how to react quick enough to it...but go ahead kill eachother,why do i care........

As far as abortion goes,you limp wrist conservatives scream about choice and no goverment involvement,yet because you do not like the out come of a certain chioce your totally against it .....Just cause a choice is one you do not want,its still a choice like it or not...God will decide on each persons actions,not you.....

Your seem to be ok with taking the defenseless life of a child and call it just an act of war,Why is that so acceptable to people like you LH?? :roll: why are you not screaming for the heads of those who start wars that inocent or defenseless children die in.. :roll: ......
 

nonothing

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Sandhusker said:
nonothing said:
who gives a shat ,keep your guns,as I am sure when the 2nd amendment was written they had the forsight to see every american owning a Ak-47..You conservatives sit here and talk about killing those who attack you or threaten you but if a rape victim wants an abortion your the first group to tell her she cant....Your a Mixed up bunch people if you ask me....

True to your liberal colors, you didn't address the question. Care to try again?

I did address the question .....I could not give a rats ass if you keep your guns....load up, buy as many as you can...Just for the love of pete stop claiming that your constantly under attack from eachother.....The only reason you even care is you consider it a right you may lose.......I doubt you even care if auto matic guns are around or not.....Your all about the second amendment and thats how you roll....I am guessing you have no need for an AK-47 but you just want the right to own one....So get off you high horse and stop the crap about personal attacks in your home or on the street..Your not a drug dealer are you?.
 

Sandhusker

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nonothing said:
Sandhusker said:
nonothing said:
who gives a shat ,keep your guns,as I am sure when the 2nd amendment was written they had the forsight to see every american owning a Ak-47..You conservatives sit here and talk about killing those who attack you or threaten you but if a rape victim wants an abortion your the first group to tell her she cant....Your a Mixed up bunch people if you ask me....

True to your liberal colors, you didn't address the question. Care to try again?

I did address the question .....I could not give a rats ass if you keep your guns....load up, buy as many as you can...Just for the love of pete stop claiming that your constantly under attack from eachother.....The only reason you even care is you consider it a right you may lose.......I doubt you even care if auto matic guns are around or not.....Your all about the second amendment and thats how you roll....I am guessing you have no need for an AK-47 but you just want the right to own one....So get off you high horse and stop the crap about personal attacks in your home or on the street..Your not a drug dealer are you?.

You still didn't answer the question. What is so hard about it?
 

nonothing

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Sandhusker said:
Nono, you are straying. Again, here is the question; What issues/problems would restricting gun ownership address?

none.Hunting and target shooting guns have thier place....If you really want to own a gun buy one in an ally....but your need for auto matic weapons is non excistant...Sandhusker you all about your right to own...you do not care what these guns do,you just want to hold on to your right to own....Sometimes a man has to decide whats more important ....and thats all opinion....We all can not be alike ..some think guns out of hands is more important then the right to own...Who is right,flip a coin i guess....
 

Sandhusker

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nono, "...you do not care what these guns do,you just want to hold on to your right to own...."

Of course I want to retain my rights. I want everybody to retain all their rights. Why would someone not?

nono, " ..some think guns out of hands is more important then the right to own.."

I don't understand how can you think keeping guns out of people's hands is important when you can't come up with any issue that banning guns solves! It's important why? Nothing is addressed! Your arguement has no logic.
 
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