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redrobin

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If it wasn't for the gun violence, zimmerman would be a dead man.


Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama called on Sunday for "calm reflection" following the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

The president, in a statement, acknowledged an emotionally charged climate but concluded that "we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken."

Obama called Martin's death a tragedy for America.

"I know this case has elicited strong passions. And in the wake of the verdict, I know those passions may be running even higher," he said.

"I now ask every American to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who lost their young son. And as we do, we should ask ourselves if we're doing all we can to widen the circle of compassion and understanding in our own communities.

"We should ask ourselves if we're doing all we can to stem the tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across this country on a daily basis," Obama said.

A Florida jury on Saturday night found Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman, not guilty of second-degree murder and manslaughter in a shooting that grew from a confrontation as Martin, 17, walked home from a convenience store in February 2012.

The verdict closed a case that gained national attention and sparked public outcry, much of which focused on race. Reaction generated protests across the United States, including outside the White House.

Obama said in closing his statement that Americans asking "ourselves, as individuals and as a society, how we can prevent future tragedies like this" is one way "to honor Trayvon Martin."

Groups disappointed with the jury's decision have asked the Obama administration to pursue a civil rights prosecution against Zimmerman, 29.

The NAACP has called on the Justice Department to file civil rights charges and is asking the public to sign a petition to support their cause.

In a statement on Sunday, the Justice Department said its civil rights investigation of the case continues and it will look at evidence and testimony from the just-concluded state trial as part of the probe.

"Experienced federal prosecutors will determine whether the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation of any of the limited federal criminal civil rights statutes within our jurisdiction, and whether federal prosecution is appropriate," the statement said.
 

Triangle Bar

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There was no gun violence. There was a violent street beat down being applied to Zimmerman by Martin. Zimmerman's legally possessed firearm, saved his life.

...and Thank you, Mr. President (gag), for politicizing this event just to help your campaign. POS
 

Tom in TN

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And apparently it's not over for Zimmerman yet. The news providers are all stating that the Federal Civil Rights Division is looking into the possibility of filing Federal charges against Zimmerman for violating the civil rights of Martin.

They aren't going to let it go. Zimmerman is in for a LONG, expensive future, fighting off the folks who just can't accept the fact that he was defending himself from deadly force.

Tom in TN
 

Steve

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"We should ask ourselves if we're doing all we can to stem the tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across this country on a daily basis," Obama said.

the president has wannabe gang banger musicians perform at the white house..

Hollywierd celebrates gang banger lifestyles and violence in movies, music and their lifestyles..

silicone valley knows games sell and violence and gang-banger type lifestyles sells big..

so in reality he isn't doing a damn thing to end the gang-banger culture... a culture that is killing more blacks daily then the entire news talks about all year...

It is estimated that 10,000 to 30,000 people die every year from gang violence. It is difficult to have an exact number because many deaths may not be reported as being gang related. The number of deaths due to gang violence has been increasing in the last several years.

with about 12,000 gun related homicides per year,.. and a large portion of them crime related.. the effort spent to stop gangs and the culture should be a national priority... not hosting the latest thug wannabe at a Whitehouse concert..
 

Steve

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If in America “black men [were] murdered at the same rate as everyone else, the overall [homicide] rate would drop to 1.9 out of 100,000 population. That would give the United States the 147th highest murder rate in the world.” This raises two questions: Is that true, and, if so, what does it mean?

The startling number is that of black homicide victims. Even taking the FBI’s lower figures yields a murder rate of 15.5 per 100,000 population. And if we assume that the FBI’s ratio holds for the larger number of homicides reported by the CDC. or 19.5 per 100,000 population.

So what’s the source of the problem? As Publius notes, the problem is not among the black population as a whole; rather, it is due to a “small sub-culture that glorifies violence and lives and dies by the gun.” It is the gang culture, characterized by widespread criminality, tribalistic warfare, through-the-roof unemployment, extremely high rates of out-of-wedlock births (72.1 percent among blacks in 2010), widespread welfare dependency, and nihilistic art typified by “gangster rap.”

Of course the left will cry “racism” at anyone stating such facts, but such cries are ridiculous. Although skin color and genetic makeup obviously have no causal connection to this problem, a tragically large number of blacks in America (and many whites and Hispanics as well) choose the gang “lifestyle” or at least the broader culture that supports it. And leftist intellectuals feed this culture by promoting anti-value “art,” moral relativism, the entitlement mentality, and welfare dependency—all funded by forced wealth transfers.

The horrifying homicide rate among black Americans is the most visible and tragic symptom of a much deeper cultural disease. And the cure is a philosophy of reason, individual responsibility, productive work, and life-oriented values.
 

Tam

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Triangle Bar said:
There was no gun violence. There was a violent street beat down being applied to Zimmerman by Martin. Zimmerman's legally possessed firearm, saved his life.

...and Thank you, Mr. President (gag), for politicizing this event just to help your campaign. POS

:clap:
 

Tam

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Tom in TN said:
And apparently it's not over for Zimmerman yet. The news providers are all stating that the Federal Civil Rights Division is looking into the possibility of filing Federal charges against Zimmerman for violating the civil rights of Martin.

They aren't going to let it go. Zimmerman is in for a LONG, expensive future, fighting off the folks who just can't accept the fact that he was defending himself from deadly force.

Tom in TN

Huckabee had Allen Dershowitz, the Harvard Law Professor, on tonight and he said the DOJ could not go after Zimmerman as they did not have the right to go after a private citizen for a civil case. They can only go after lower GOVERNMENTS for civil rights cases against private citizens.

Not that that would stop the Obama Administration as laws don't seem to matter to this CORRUPT Administration.

He also thought they should be investigating Special Prosecutor Corey as she was the one that violated Zimmerman's civil rights. She filed false papers and lied to the courts to file the charges against him. Plus she withheld information which was a violation of the law. He said when he complained about her actions in this case early on, she went to Harvard and complained to his superiors to get him into trouble. ANd when the guy in her office blew the whistle on her ILLEGALLY withholding evidence she fired him to shut him up. Dershowitz figured she should be dis-barred for her actions in the Zimmerman case.

BTW with the early FBI investigation report that said there was no RACIAL element to this case, the Prosecutor saying in closing remarks this was not a case of Racism and Trayvon's own mother saying to the media this was not a RACISM case, you would have to wonder how the Obama/Holder DOJ will come up with a Racist element to charge Zimmerman with in a Civil Rights case. Even Tamara Holder a Liberal, I never agree with, said as a CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY she could not see where they were going to come up with a case.

But again if Holder thinks there will be a POLITICAL BENEFIT to a civil rights charge he will leave no rock unturned to find somebody to claim Zimmerman might have said something 20 years ago that made that person feel he was a racist WHITE GUY. :roll: Kind of like the Obama Campaign team seem to find women to claim Herman Caine sexually harassed them YEARS EARLIER to get him to leave the campaign trail. Then magically those women melted back under the rock that they were dug out from under. They seem to be able to find someone to say just about anything to back their STORIES UP. And I doubt this case will be any different if their is something to gain to push their agenda. :mad:
 

Tam

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Oh and about Obama's Gun control he keeps pushing, he and his koolaid drinking supporters keep saying that all he wants in the line of Gun regulations is strong back ground checks. So can anyone tell us how this case, or as a matter of fact any of the cases he wants to use to force his GUN CONTROL agenda down peoples throats, would have been affected with what Obama CLAIMS he wants? Zimmerman's gun was LEGALLY OWNED and he shot off one bullet. :?

Come on one of you liberal lurkers need to explain how Obama's plan could have change what happen. Limited magazine size and a Back Ground check would not have changed anything so what was Obama hinting needs to be done to stop this kind of thing from happening again? :?

And do any of you liberal lurkers really believe Obama's gun regulations will stop all the gun violence in Obama's home town of Chicago? Would back ground checks and smaller magazines stop Black gang bangers from shooting other Black Gang bangers on a daily basis? That is the violence he needs to worry about and his regulation on law abiding citizens is not going to stop them.
 

Steve

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there are alot of implications in this trial..

I feel one of them is the 2nd amendment and after hearing Harry Reed say this case isn't over...

I wonder how can anyone say this case isn't over and be a 2nd amendment supporter?

How can Harry Reed claim to support gun rights yet is willing to forfeit them for a moment on a political stage?

Like someone recently said.. "The truth in this case is about paying attention to the details."..

it is all the small facts that add up to show that liberals do not care about facts... just their agenda and any pawn they can use to achieve that agenda...
 

Tam

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This case has two sides one where the wannabe gang banger with drugs in his system would have killed a guy with a concrete sidewalk given the chance and the other of a guy legally protecting his life from that wannabe gang banger looking to make a name for himself by beating the crap out of who, Prosecution testimony proved, he RACIALLY PROFILED as a Creepy Azz White Cracker. But the race baiters will never admit to who the racists of this case really are. :roll: :x

Liberal Politicians will use this story to limit law abiding peoples right but they will do nothing to stop the illegal crap.

H*LL this Corrupt Administration fed the illegal crap by providing illegal guns to drug cartels so they could use the results/deaths from those US DOJ PROVIDED GUNS to try prove the US has a illegal gun running problem. :mad:

The Second Amendment is under attack and anyone that thinks a stronger back ground check is all Obama wants with his GUN CONTROL MEASURES is friggin delusional. No back ground check would have stopped any of the most recent Obama examples to why the US needs Gun Control. But yet he is out there as fast as one of these cases hits the media pumping up his koolaid drinking supporters into believing they would all be safer if every LAW ABIDING GUN OWNER turned over their guns and had no way of protecting themselves from the Trayvon Martin's of the world that are looking for any reason to beat the crap out of them and threaten their lives for the fun of it. :roll:

Obama and the Liberals will not stop until the only guns on the streets are the illegal one they helped provided to drug runners and gang bangers looking to protect their turf. :mad:
 
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