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Gunman kills six at US nursing home

Lonecowboy

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have you ever noticed that these type of things always happen at a place where the people are sure to be unarmed; ie: schools, nursing home.

I haven't ever heard of a mass shooting at a gun show, police academy,
policemans ball, etc. why is that??

Maybe the right to defend yourself and others has some merits!!
 

Steve

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And finally, there's a generally greater acceptance on the part of both the elderly and their families that end-of-life heroics may be drawing resources away from people who might put them to better use. You can have them if you want them; but reasonable and compassionate people should be able to take the larger view.

maybe he read the article and felt it was the compassionate thing to do.. :evil: :evil: sorry while not nice.. it seems to me that some push the euthanasia, mercy killing thing to far..
 

aplusmnt

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reader (the Second) said:
Okay, I see, we should equip schools, hospitals, and nursing homes with a lot of weapons.

Point is we should accept that we live in a country of over 300 million people. And out of 300 million people some are going to be crazy or bad. And when you have that many people in a country the odds of rare incidents are likely.

Do we out law cars, do we out law knives, do we out law motorcycles, bicycles, skateboards, surfing, skydiving, airplanes, home swimming pools, home trampolines, snowboards, skiing, cliff climbing, kayaking, white water rafting....etc.................

You see most of those things rarely save lives, they are done mostly for fun. Guns have just as big of a history of saving lives of innocent people as they do in taking lives of innocent people. But all those things above offer not much to society except recreation.

It gets so tiring to talk to liberal idiots who do not have minds grounded in reality!
 

Steve

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reader (the Second) said:
Okay, I see, we should equip schools, hospitals, and nursing homes with a lot of weapons.

Why can't a "rational" answer suffice? Why try to create a hystreria ?

a few well trained concealed weapons would be sufficient .. to stop this madman just as it has in the few cases where there was a armed person who did the right thing.


what most "gun right" defenders want is a rational debate and a rational response... and the ability to defend themselves and others when the police fail, is that wrong? ...
 

Sandhusker

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reader (the Second) said:
Okay, I see, we should equip schools, hospitals, and nursing homes with a lot of weapons.

No, we shoudn't be enacting knee-jerk legislation for isolated incidents. Keep the emotions out and keep common sense in.
 

Lonecowboy

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reader (the Second) said:
Okay, I see, we should equip schools, hospitals, and nursing homes with a lot of weapons.


Only cowards do things like this incident, and target the defenseless.

What I'm saying is don't deny the teachers, administration, doctors, nurses, staff, etc. their Second Ammendment Rights to keep and bear arms so they can defend themselves and others.

This guys odds were pretty good that he would meet no armed resistance.When armed resistance (police) finally got there he was stopped wasn't he?
 

Mike

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reader (the Second) said:
Okay, I see, we should equip schools, hospitals, and nursing homes with a lot of weapons.

If that's what it takes to keep the residents safe.........why not? :roll:
 

kolanuraven

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I haven't seen the details of this but most nursing homes here have super-duper security entrances. Not just anybody can walk in.


Who did the shooting? A walk-in....a family member of some one or what?
 

hopalong

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Residents at Pinelake Health and Rehab are not guarded by a security staff, but that's not an unusual situation for a nursing home, a state regulator said today.

"They are residential facilities," said Jeff Horton, chief executive officer of the state Division of Health Service Regulation. "They are not required to have security and most of them do not have it."
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
I haven't seen the details of this but most nursing homes here have super-duper security entrances. Not just anybody can walk in.


Who did the shooting? A walk-in....a family member of some one or what?

I have had a Grandma and a Great Grandma at nursing home. One did not have a locked door but nursing desk was right at door. The other had a locked door but all you had to do was buzz to get in it. They had an electric lock so patience would not wonder outside.

But I am curious to know the motivation of the killer.
 

alice

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aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
I haven't seen the details of this but most nursing homes here have super-duper security entrances. Not just anybody can walk in.


Who did the shooting? A walk-in....a family member of some one or what?

I have had a Grandma and a Great Grandma at nursing home. One did not have a locked door but nursing desk was right at door. The other had a locked door but all you had to do was buzz to get in it. They had an electric lock so patience would not wonder outside.

But I am curious to know the motivation of the killer.

What difference does it make, Donald? The sum'bitch had a gun and walked into a nursing home for Alzheimer's patients with it...and opened fire.

Alice
 

aplusmnt

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alice said:
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
I haven't seen the details of this but most nursing homes here have super-duper security entrances. Not just anybody can walk in.


Who did the shooting? A walk-in....a family member of some one or what?

I have had a Grandma and a Great Grandma at nursing home. One did not have a locked door but nursing desk was right at door. The other had a locked door but all you had to do was buzz to get in it. They had an electric lock so patience would not wonder outside.

But I am curious to know the motivation of the killer.

What difference does it make, Donald? The sum'bitch had a gun and walked into a nursing home for Alzheimer's patients with it...and opened fire.

Alice

Does not make a difference, like I said I am curious the motive! Just like Kolan was curious!
 

alice

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aplusmnt said:
alice said:
aplusmnt said:
I have had a Grandma and a Great Grandma at nursing home. One did not have a locked door but nursing desk was right at door. The other had a locked door but all you had to do was buzz to get in it. They had an electric lock so patience would not wonder outside.

But I am curious to know the motivation of the killer.

What difference does it make, Donald? The sum'bitch had a gun and walked into a nursing home for Alzheimer's patients with it...and opened fire.

Alice

Does not make a difference, like I said I am curious the motive! Just like Kolan was curious!

Yo! Kola! Donald just aligned himself with you. Be afraid...very afraid!

Alice
 

aplusmnt

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alice said:
aplusmnt said:
alice said:
What difference does it make, Donald? The sum'bitch had a gun and walked into a nursing home for Alzheimer's patients with it...and opened fire.

Alice

Does not make a difference, like I said I am curious the motive! Just like Kolan was curious!

Yo! Kola! Donald just aligned himself with you. Be afraid...very afraid!

Alice

I would prefer if you would call me Mr. Aplus instead of Donald if you would please. :wink:

My conservative friends may start thinking I am friendly with the enemy if you keep using my first name! :lol: It may get me kicked out of the Klan if you know what I mean. :wink: :lol:
 

CattleArmy

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aplusmnt said:
reader (the Second) said:
Okay, I see, we should equip schools, hospitals, and nursing homes with a lot of weapons.

Point is we should accept that we live in a country of over 300 million people. And out of 300 million people some are going to be crazy or bad.

Why have so many of those people found ranchers.net to post on?????? :???:
 

CattleArmy

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Sandhusker said:
reader (the Second) said:
Okay, I see, we should equip schools, hospitals, and nursing homes with a lot of weapons.

No, we shoudn't be enacting knee-jerk legislation for isolated incidents. Keep the emotions out and keep common sense in.

Horrible things are happening at schools, churches, hospitals places that should be, but somehow aren't safe anymore. I have no idea what the answer is to make these places safe anymore. I don't think letting every tom, dick and harry have a gun is the answer.
 

Mike

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I don't think letting every tom, dick and harry have a gun is the answer.

There are several, SEVERAL, State and Federal laws that prohibit certain individuals from owning and/or carrying guns now.

In other words....every Tom, Dick, and Harry cannot pack now.

Making new laws will only mean that more laws will be broken by the outlaws. :roll:

Did you know that anyone convicted of a MISDEMEANOR Domestic crime (including threatening a family member) cannot own a gun or ammunition now?
 

aplusmnt

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CattleArmy said:
Sandhusker said:
reader (the Second) said:
Okay, I see, we should equip schools, hospitals, and nursing homes with a lot of weapons.

No, we shoudn't be enacting knee-jerk legislation for isolated incidents. Keep the emotions out and keep common sense in.

Horrible things are happening at schools, churches, hospitals places that should be, but somehow aren't safe anymore. I have no idea what the answer is to make these places safe anymore. I don't think letting every tom, dick and harry have a gun is the answer.

So far the opposit has not worked so why not give it a try.

Ps. It is not that so many more of these shootings happen, it is that it is more knowing of them. Due to Internet and a media system on steroids, more people know of these things than did 30 years ago or more.

The facts remain that our kids are still safer at school than they are at home. If you sent all kids home and had no school they would be more accident and they would be more likely to die than if they went to school. I imagine the same would be true of nursing homes also!
 
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