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H1N1 Vaccine shortage?

Texan

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...despite months of planning and preparation, a vaccine shortage is threatening to undermine public confidence in government, creating a very public test of Mr. Obama’s competence....

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/29/us/politics/29shortage.html


But, not to worry. This Administration is good at prioritizing:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33576821/ns/world_news-terrorism/
 

Cal

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WTF is wrong with people that want to let the government have more control over their lives.....and health! Doesn't one STUPID STUPID example after another ever ring a bell with these.........Obamazombies? :x
 

hypocritexposer

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Swine-flu hysteria
Posted: November 02, 2009
1:00 am Eastern



It's a global pandemic, says the World Health Organization.

It's a national emergency, says Barack Obama.

U.S. deaths have surpassed 1,000, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

Nearly 5,000 have died worldwide, according to WHO.

That sounds bad.

But is it worth the hysteria?

What is it about these deaths that have government health bureaucracies apoplectic?

Is it time for a little context?

What happens when we turn to the same sources to compare deaths due to swine flu with other leading causes of preventable deaths?

Worldwide, nearly 3,000 people die from malaria every day.

Worldwide, nearly 6,000 people die from AIDS every day.

So what is it about this illness that has government so shook up?

Is it that it is so readily preventable?

Actually, that can't be it. Because malaria could be eradicated much easier and more economically. But the most effective weapon in the arsenal against malaria, DDT, has been banned in the U.S. and much of the rest of the world, even though it saved the lives of tens of millions, because of pseudo-scientific hysteria about alleged, unproven environmental effects.

Also, the vaccine for swine flu is extraordinarily expensive, compared with DDT production and treatments. The U.S. government spent $1 billion just to develop the swine flu vaccine, $7 billion to produce 195 million doses and the cost of administering those doses is projected to cost $11 billion.

While no one disputes DDT's absolute effectiveness against malaria, there are no studies that prove the H1N1 vaccine actually prevents swine flu. In addition, many doctors consider it to be dangerous because it contains aluminum, a toxic metal, thimerosal, a mercury toxin and is believed to contain a squalene product that can injure the immune system.

In other words, the swine flu vaccine may not prevent people from getting the swine flu and it may well cause other problems more serious than the swine flu. The cure could well be worse than the disease.

Who is doing the cost-benefit analysis? Government, of course – in conjunction with vaccine manufacturers who stand to rake in as much as $50 billion if the vaccine is administered throughout the world.

OK, so what other factors might be responsible for the do-something-now hysteria over swine flu? Is it because this illness is hitting all over the world rather than in under-developed Third World countries?

Actually, that can't be it. Because AIDS hits some of the most affluent populations in the West and yet government authorities oppose the use of standard public health measures to block transmission of the disease.

And, to further illustrate the point that government officials don't seem to care about the spread of AIDS, Obama announced the day before Halloween that the U.S. will soon lift the travel ban on foreigners with the disease entering the country.

Further, as Sen. Tom Coburn, a medical doctor, revealed in an article published in the Advocate, a national homosexual magazine, another bill signed by Obama last week earmarking $15 billion for AIDS treatment will ensure, along with a government-controlled health-care system, that AIDS patients will be placed on waiting lists for treatment and that many will be denied appropriate care through rationing of services.

I don't know about you, but I don't trust the government to make medical decisions.

I don't know about you, but I don't trust the government to make rational public health decisions.

I don't know about you, but I don't trust the government to play doctor or, worse yet, play God.

I don't know about you, but I don't trust the government to make decisions that affect the lives and the health of my loved ones.

There's a little too much crisis-management going on here. And, when it comes to swine flu, I'm not even sure there is a crisis to manage.
 

hopalong

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CattleArmy said:
The schools here are giving out the vaccine for free. Parents just have to sign a slip.

So does that mean plenty of vaccine???? Apparently NOT!!
Monday 2nd November, 2009 |



Manufacturers Step-Up Production of H1N1 Vaccine
By: Madeline Ellis
Published: Monday, 2 November 2009



So far, as many as 5.7 million Americans have been infected with the H1N1 flu virus, which is widespread in 48 states—an unprecedented level for the early weeks of flu season. Yet the H1N1 vaccine supply continues to lag far behind what officials had estimated would be available, leaving public health departments, clinics, and doctor’s offices across the country scrambling for ways to vaccinate those at highest risk for complications. Officials initially announced that 120 million doses would be available by October 1. That number was later amended to 40 million, but as of Friday, only 26.6 million doses had been shipped. Even President Barack Obama has expressed frustration with the delays and Senators Joseph I. Lieberman and Susan Collins sent a letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius demanding details about the lag in production.

On Saturday, Sebelius explained that initial estimates were based on “overly optimistic” predictions by the five contracted vaccine makers for the U.S. market, and offered assurances that production has been increased and another 10 million doses should arrive this coming week. “The vaccine is beginning to roll in larger volumes. And it’s being distributed as quickly as it comes off the line,” she said. “It’s being shipped overnight. We’re getting it from producers seven days a week.”

David Axelrod, President Barack Obama’s senior advisor, reiterated that the administration represented to the public what they were told by the vaccine manufacturers, but said the problem is improving every day and predicted the U.S. will have all the H1N1 vaccine it needs “in very short order.”

Meanwhile, the Pentagon announced its decision to include prisoners in the priority groups for the H1N1 vaccine, including those at the detention center for terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Their decision was based on U.S. government assessments that people held in detention facilities are at high risk for the pandemic. However, the decision is being criticized by lawmakers in both parties. “I don't think it’s a good idea," House Minority Leader John Boehner said of giving the shots to the Guantanamo detainees. “The administration probably didn’t think it would be very popular either, that’s why they announced it on Friday night. We have prisoners in my own home county who are going to get H1N1 shots while there are vulnerable populations who want the shots who can’t get them. I just think that’s wrong.”

Sebelius said the U.S. still plans to participate in the 11-nation program to donate 10 percent of its vaccine supply to developing countries, but only after the priority populations here had been vaccinated. “The first priority is to get the vaccine to the American people,” she said. “That’s always been the plan. It continues to be the plan.” She noted, however, that vaccinations are also critical in developing countries and refugee camps, where hundreds of thousands of people could die as a result of the flu.

Worldwide, more than 5,700 deaths associated with H1N1 had been reported to the World Health Organization (WHO) as of October 25. At least 1,300 Americans have died from the virus, including 114 children.



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Kato

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It's the same thing here. :roll: Two weeks ago only about 40% of Canadians said they wanted the vaccine. Last week a teenager died from H1N1, and now 90% say they want it, and they want it NOW. Add a slowdown at the manufacturer, and a delay getting the vaccine NOW, and you've got people getting really upset.

After going over the top getting people all wound up over the dangers of H1N1, there is not a government in the world who is not getting flack over a vaccine shortage or delay. No country has it any better than anyone else, and no government should be surprised. It will never come fast enough for everybody, and complaints are almost guaranteed.

People die from the flu every year, and you don't hear a peep about it in the media. This must seem very bizarre for anyone who lost a loved one in the past due to the regular flu.

We on the other hand, have already had the flu, so it makes no difference to us. In an odd way, we're glad we got it over with.
 

hypocritexposer

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They say the H1N1 peaked a week or 2 ago, then they daid it could be weeks away.

As far as Fearmongering goes, the National Emergency in the US did not help the situation much.

Isn't a National Emergency supposed to cut through the red tape, so medicine etc can be distributed more quickly and efficiently?
 

Steve

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In what was a slightly bizarre, and certainly paranoid, rant, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan has said that the H1N1 vaccine is a plot to kill people.

According to Farrakhan, it is all a matter of calculated population control, and that it is a global effort to exterminate a portion of the population.

“The Earth can’t take 6.5 billion people. We just can’t feed that many,” he said at a rally for the group’s Holy Day of Atonement.

“So what are you going to do? Kill as many as you can. We have to develop a science that kills them and makes it look as though they died from some disease.”

He has advised people to refuse the vaccine, lest they fall under the evil global conspiracy to purposefully kill off millions of people.
 
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