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Halal Meat

Faster horses

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I received this as an email, and I'm not sure this is true. If it is, where
are the USDA inspectors before this meat hits the market?
If this so, hell needs to be raised over it...

Subway now uses Halal Meat. Costco now selling Halal Meat. You decide what to do with this.......



HALAL Meats are already in most of our local supermarkets, Watch what you buy!!------- Just another symptom of Sharia law in the U.S.!

There are 200 Subway restaurants in the U.S. That have removed all pork products and added Halal meat to the menu!



Have You Seen this on Meat Labels??? IMPORTANT READ!!! THIS IS COMING AND LOOK OUT FOR THIS INTRUSION IN U.S. And CANADIAN MARKETS... “Halal” meat...



Are you aware of this? Take a look and forward to your friends and family. Do Not buy this meat! "Costco stocking their meat counters with "Halal" meat." I shopped for groceries at my local Wal-Mart. As usual, I bought a bag of frozen chicken breasts, but this time I checked to make sure the meat was not labeled "Halal." Here's why: Halal is the Islamic term that basically means the meat is lawful to eat for a devout Muslim. What makes it lawful or acceptable is that the meat has been processed in a very specific way. Unlike kosher food, where the physical processing of the meat is the focus, for Islam it is the spiritual component that makes the meat lawful.

Ann Barnhardt, a cattle commodities broker, has more about "Halal."

"NEVER buy meat that is marked as "Halal."
I am in the cattle business, and believe me when I tell you that Halal kill plants are CONSTANTLY being cited and shut down by the USDA for horrific infractions.
Most of these plants are in Michigan and upstate New York . One of the things that halal kill plants are notorious for is putting already-dead animals in the human consumption line. They will go pick up a dead cow off of a farm or ranch and instead of putting it in their rendering tank where the resulting "tankage" is worth pennies on the dollar as pet food or industrial products, they will shackle the dead animal on the normal kill line and process it as human food which is the highest-dollar product. This kind of
sickening behaviour is standard. Halal plants are also notorious for general citations for filth and uncleanliness. I have toured normal cattle slaughter plants, and in most cases, you could eat off of the floor. Everything is white and men walk around with water hoses and steam guns constantly keeping everything in a state of spotlessness. Halal plants are filthy. A lot of Halal meat is also labeled as "organic." Again, don't be fooled into thinking that "halal" means "better." It isn't. I would never, ever knowingly eat halal meat purely from a food safety
perspective."


THIS IS COMING AND LOOK OUT FOR THIS INTRUSION IN U.S. And CANADIAN MARKETS...


“Halal” meat... Are you aware of this? Take a look and forward to your friends and family. Do Not buy this meat!
 

Steve

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while it may not be "completely accurate".. Snopes tends to lean heavily towards a bias to disprove these e-mails..

for example:
For lawful (halal) meat in Islam, the animal must be killed while the butcher faces Mecca, and either the butcher cries "Allah Akbar" or a tape plays the words over a loud speaker.

As noted above, in halal processing the head of an animal that is to be slaughtered should be aligned with the qiblah, and animals should be slaughtered in the name of Allah. How the latter aspect is satisfied varies with region and culture; it does not necessarily involve the uttering or recorded playing of the phrase "Allahu Akbar."
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/halal.asp#7rxc5Gd5Ujdyt5Bd.99

like I said.. snopes will side with a technical error to promote their liberal views..


to me I really don't care how a butcher praises allah while he beheads an animal for his false god, it is still praising a false god..

Don't take it from me or snopes.. see what muslims are saying...
http://islamqa.info/en/172296





some will not eat meat sacrificed to a false god... as for me I just do not support bushiness that cater to islam at the cost of others...



The problem comes when Allah’s name is pronounced over the meat during the butchering process. Many interpret this to mean the animal was sacrificed to a false god—an idol.

Nearly two thousand years ago, Paul wrote to the church in Corinth regarding the permissibility of eating meat sacrificed to idols, because the Corinthians also struggled with this issue. In Corinth, as in many Roman cities, the only meat available at markets was that which had been sacrificed to a pagan idol. Paul told the Corinthian Christians that a false idol is nothing. It has no authority. It did not create the animal or provide the owner with it (1 Corinthians 8:4). The point, then, becomes not the food or the idol it was sacrificed to, but concern for other people.

if eating meat sacrificed to idols is harmful to another believer, it should be avoided. Many of the poorest in Corinth could only afford to eat meat in the context of a pagan ritual—to them, meat was equated with their previous life. These “weaker” brothers were not yet free of the religious connotation that meat carried. Therefore, a “stronger” brother indulging in meat-eating could entice the weaker into an action that he believed was wrong, and was therefore sin (Romans 14:23). To Paul, another believer’s walk was far more important than what he ate.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/halal-food.html#ixzz3IVz7dYR7
 

mrj

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I thought the other person living in my house had seen Halal slaughter at a plant in Minnesota, but the facility ran out of space, so he did not see it. This was a few years ago, ten or so, I think. It was pretty gruesome, he was told, and the point of it was, like kosher, to fulfill religious rules regarding the slaughter. And, no, the animals were not stunned. Part of the point was to cut the throat of the living animal and bleed it properly immediately.

I have little problem with others following religious rules re. their food, but where is the HSUS on this practice? And selling it to those who do not know what is done surely should be illegal, if it isn't.

Yet another case where we, as meat producers and consumers need to let the store owners know how we feel about their practices.

mrj
 

Broke Cowboy

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mrj said:
but where is the HSUS on this practice? And selling it to those who do not know what is done surely should be illegal, if it isn't.

mrj

IMO

Political correctness prevents any charges being laid - oh, and once you have read this - be sure to watch the video - it might make you think a bit about your own country.

This slaughter is illegal in Canada by SPCA rules but they will not touch it - however they will raid a person's house if their dog has tartar on it's teeth. (yeah they did)

UK school foods meet halal standards

Kosher is also technically illegal - in Ontario stunning does not happen prior to cutting of the throat for halal - cannot speak for other places.

Halal also has a "fee" attached - the money is used for many things

Some info as follows:

http://www.globalmbwatch.com/2010/12/12/pakistani-newspaper-says-bosnian-grand-mufti-urges-muslims-to-rule-world-through-halal-food/

Plus - not all my words - some provided by a friend:

Certification - now applied to a bizarre number of products which are intrinsically halal - like water and smoked salmon - is a purely money-making exercise.

one must flag the purpose to which all these billions of dollars are put. (Incidentally, estimates of global halal certification fees start at $1.6 trillion. I've heard estimates of up to $3 trillion, and the magnitude is undoubtedly growing all the time.)

These dollars fund:

* Parasitic certifiers who as individuals get rich for doing essentially nothing;

* Islamic Councils which use the money to fund more and more mosques and Islamic schools; and

* Islamic zakat ("charity"), which according to Koran 9:60 must be disbursed in eight parts as follows:

[The list below is taken from Dawood translation of the Koran]

* For the poor

* For the destitute

* For those engaged in the management of alms

* For those whose hearts are sympathetic to the faith

* For the freeing of slaves

* For the freeing of debtors

* For the advancement of God's cause (fighting for Allah), and

* For the traveller in need.

Plus some more tidbits:

The Eight Categories of Recipients

It is obligatory to distribute one's zakat among eight categories of recipients (O: meaning that zakat goes to none besides them), one-eighth of the zakat to each category (n: In the Hanafi school, it is valid for the giver to distribute his zakat to all of the categories, some of them, or to confine himself to just one of them (al-Lubab fi sharh al-Kitab(y88), 1.155). )


Those Fighting for Allah

The seventh category is those fighting for Allah, meaning people engaged in Islamic military operations for whom no salary has been allotted in the army roster (O: but who are volunteers for jihad without remuneration). They are given enough to suffice them for the operation, even if affluent; of weapons, mounts, clothing, and expenses (O: for the duration of the journey, round trip, and the time they spend there, even if prolonged. Though nothing has been mentioned here of the expense involved in supporting such people's families during this period, it seems clear that they should also be given it).


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The above is why I avoid halal yet do not avoid Kosher. Every time someone buys halal they actually fund those who would do us harm.

There is a lot of info out there - all one has to do is look for it. Or sooner or later you will be living it.

It is not easy to point out these issues as they are also political correctness issues. One tiny bit here and one tiny bit there.

Most people in North America live in entitled bubbles and do not think about the future unless it has a direct affect upon that person - so things like the video below happen and as long as it is not in my back yard it is not a problem.

Think it cannot happen?

There are literally thousands of examples on YouTube - this shows how England has changed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo

The once proud Brit bulldog is rapidly becoming the Islamic p.u.s.s.y

BC
 

Broke Cowboy

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Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
I wonder if they are humanely stunned before the throat is cut? :?

Like Nick Berg's was?

No Mike - no stunning allowed

I literally have hundreds of photos of headless bodies gathered as evidence.

Trust me there is never any stunning.

And any woman stoned is certainly not drugged before she is tortured to death.

Life is very cruel when the islamics take over

A radical will cut your head off

A moderate will stand by and look on with approval

I have met many from both sides.

Halal is only one symptom of trouble.

BC
 

Steve

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MRJ said:
And selling it to those who do not know what is done surely should be illegal, if it isn't.

most people in the US have no clue where food comes from,.. let alone how it is handled...

thankfully for those who care it is often labeled..

aGFsYWwEBA.jpg


there are several more subtle labels..
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/03/29/are-you-inadvertently-supporting-islamic-terrorism-by-unwittingly-buying-halal-food/
 

Broke Cowboy

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Steve said:
MRJ said:
And selling it to those who do not know what is done surely should be illegal, if it isn't.

most people in the US have no clue where food comes from,.. let alone how it is handled...

thankfully for those who care it is often labeled..

aGFsYWwEBA.jpg


there are several more subtle labels..
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/03/29/are-you-inadvertently-supporting-islamic-terrorism-by-unwittingly-buying-halal-food/

I have a copy of a letter from Bega Cheese - an Australian company admitting they pay a halal fee - but they will not tell you where it goes other than to say they do not do anything illegal! LOL

So if anyone thinks that they can make it "printable" here - I will happily send it to them so it can be shown on this thread.

BC
 

hypocritexposer

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Broke Cowboy said:
Steve said:
MRJ said:
And selling it to those who do not know what is done surely should be illegal, if it isn't.

most people in the US have no clue where food comes from,.. let alone how it is handled...

thankfully for those who care it is often labeled..

aGFsYWwEBA.jpg


there are several more subtle labels..
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/03/29/are-you-inadvertently-supporting-islamic-terrorism-by-unwittingly-buying-halal-food/

I have a copy of a letter from Bega Cheese - an Australian company admitting they pay a halal fee - but they will not tell you where it goes other than to say they do not do anything illegal! LOL

So if anyone thinks that they can make it "printable" here - I will happily send it to them so it can be shown on this thread.

BC

PM me the list, I will get it posted.

Or, if you would like, let me know what format you have it in and I can outline instructions to get it posted, so everyone that's interested in knowing how, can learn.
 

Steve

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Earlier I wrote said:
some will not eat meat sacrificed to a false god... as for me I just do not support business that caters to islam at the cost of others...

I would like to thank Broke Cowboy for explaining the Fee connected with halal meat and how it is just blindly handed over...


anyone can donate a portion of their profits... many Christians do,.. many of it is done "blindly" as well..

but to my knowledge,.. few if any Christian organization donates a portion to terror...

add in often these folk are "brought over because of their unique qualifications... for example an infidel British butcher could run the machine and say the words.. because he wouldn't mean them.. so bring over a immigrant to fill the job... then you can't have an infidel wash the carcass,.. process it.. and so on... it is a inch by inch approach

meat packing is a brutal job.. and mostly filled by immigrants ... they used to be filled by American workers who were trained by the companies and afforded them to live at least an decent lower middle class life..


I am not a fan of meat packers.. haven't been since the late seventies...

but more importantly it is time we as Americans push back on overwhelming immigration, and this barbarian islamic culture who takes no enemies alive..


edited for misspell (dang auto correct and dyslexic typing skills ) :oops:
 

Broke Cowboy

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Thanks for posting the letter

Note the company states it does not deal with any "bad outfits" (my words)

Note it admits paying a fee.

However it did avoid the direct question that was asked:

Where does the money go and how do you ensure it does not go to zakat#7?

Note it avoided the question by answering about a dozen questions that were not asked - because no one cares about all the corporate BS - it was simple - the original question asked where does your halal fee go?

However they did suspect - because they immediately commented about how they do not support all that bad stuff - so someone else has already briefed them on how to baffle with BS.

While they might very well be telling the truth, they actually might not have clue where the money goes - other than the fact it goes to the regional zakat / halal collection agency - who in turn distribute the funds as they see fit.

And therein lies the rub - that money funds the "8 requirements" and that means some, if not the lions share, goes off shore.

So - buy halal - fund terror.

Buy Saudi oil and gas products - fund terror.

And the beat goes on.

But - it is not politically correct to say this - so the media quietly ignores it. And business is not interested in anything other than profit.

Lots more out there folks - all you have to do is either sign up and the military will send you there to get an education - or you can look it all up on the internet.

There is a surprising amount of info out there - and most of it is "hiding right out in the open" - which often is the best way to avoid scrutiny!

However - what do I know - I am not rich, not educated, not well traveled, do not have highly educated, highly placed islamic friends in other governments, I speak only one language (poorly) and have certainly never worked in elite circles. I am just one of those idiots in the trenches who sees and wonders why others seem to divert and deny the realities of it all.

Best to all

BC
 

Big Muddy rancher

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http://www.ifancc.org/index.php?page=cartifiedcompanies


Zabiha

The process of slaughtering a halal animal according to the Islamic method. The following should be observed:

The name of God (Allah) is to be pronounced as a reminder that we do not have the right to take the animal’s life except by the permission of God to meet our need for food.

A sharp blade and skill in slaughtering is required to minimize pain and unnecessary suffering for the animal. This is accomplished by a quick cut to sever the veins and arteries of the neck of the animal, without cutting the nervous system or spinal cord. The massive bleeding makes the animal unconscious in seconds. Leaving the spinal cord intact allowing for convulsions that result from the contraction of the muscles in response to the lack of oxygen in the brain cells. This will allow for the maximum drainage of blood, carrying away in part the waste and micro-organisms, thereby improving the meat's taste, shelf-life and healthiness.
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
Thanks BC. You have made me very aware of Halal products.
I will check carefully as I don't wish to be funding terrorists...this
was interesting to say the least.

And BC, may God bless you for your continued service.
Thanks for taking the time to post on this forum.
 

Broke Cowboy

Well-known member
I think those of you who read this will be surprised at the companies that pay the fees that support islamic ideology and in turn terror through the fees.

I cannot speak for the US of A - however this is apparently an accurate report for Canada - and I bet it does work south of the border. Seems some folks might want to send a letter to their producers.

Social media is actually better as the companies HATE negative press.

If the islamics cannot eat the food grown in your fields without "us the producer" paying a fee to them - then in my mind at least - it is us who need to smarten up.

All in the name of politically correct diversity!

http://www.canadianhalalfoods.com/

By the way Colgate toothpaste is apparently also halal

Here is a surprising one for you.

Campbells Soups are Halal - at least in Canada and their literature states the fees are paid to:

IFNCA

The Islamic Food and Nutrition Council Of America

Amazing where islamics are getting money from. So buy Campbells Soup and you send money overseas.

All in the name if divesity

Lots more out there - all you have to do is look.

And it helps to kill our soldiers.

As an update this is hitting high gear in Australia and apparently social media reaction has caused Fleurieu Milk and Yoghurt Company to drop Halal certification

So the producers DO pay attention.

Best to all.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Thought you guys might be interested...


Claims Halal certification fees fund terrorism 'absolutely wrong'

ABC
November 11, 2014, 2:20 pm

The Fleurieu Milk and Yoghurt Company dropped its Halal certification due to pressure on social media.

Claims money spent on fees to become Halal-certified go towards funding terrorism are "absolutely wrong", a business who provides the certification has said.

Fazal Muhammed from the Queensland Halal Certification Service was the one to provide Fleurieu Milk and Yoghurt Company with its Halal label.

The company faced an attack from people who claimed the fee it paid had been channelled into funding terrorism in the Middle East.

It cited negative publicity for a decision to end its $50,000-per-year yoghurt supply deal with airline Emirates.

Mr Muhammed said he charged companies $1,000 per year to be Halal-certified and that money was then spent locally on health and education.

He said the social media attack on Muslims was hurting local communities and local businesses.

"I think they have been misguided, that's all. This benefits Australia, benefits locally, benefits people here, working here, that are trying to raise their families here and [this attack] is hurting them," Mr Muhammed said.

"I don't know where they get that every Muslim is bad ... we're not.

"I can tell you my family has been here for over 150 years and they've never had a problem. They're all upstanding citizens, my kids, my children they are born and bred here, my grandchildren are born and bred here.

"They've grown up here, helping locally, local communities. We don't have time to worry about other people, we just try to raise a family here."

Previous to running his small business Mr Muhammed worked for the Australian Federation of Islamic Council as a supervisor for nearly 20 years.

He said he only certified a handful of companies each year as he was only a domestic certifier and those providing certification to large exporting companies must register with the Australian Quarantine Inspection Service.

Mr Muhammed said the Australian Government was doing the best it could to regulate Halal certifiers.

"People don't realise that the Australian Government is dealing with a lot of Muslim countries that are helping to fight terrorism," he said.

"I'm originally from Pakistan and we have the biggest problem, in Pakistan there are so many innocent people getting killed by terrorism in Pakistan."
Dairy farmers condemn 'irrational' anti-Halal attack on yoghurt supplier

The Dairy Farmers Association said it was disappointed a small South Australian dairy producer did not seek its help before dropping Halal certification due to a campaign of "irrational bullying" on social media.

David Basham of the Dairy Farmers Association urged any other companies which faced such pressures to enlist the help of their industry associations.

"This has come back to this small milk company, without the resources to defend themselves, they've decided it's easier to walk away than actually try to defend this," he said.

"It's particularly unfair to put that sort of pressure on a small, little milk company that's just trying to operate ... a very good business.

"Disappointingly this time, Fleurieu didn't come to us to seek our help but we are there to help."

He said other companies might be able to learn from the attack against the Fleurieu company if they too came under such pressure.

"I would suggest they contact their industry bodies and talk to them and see whether there's something that can be done to assist them through the process because we don't want to see them losing markets through irrational bullying campaigns," he said.

"I just think it's an irrational fear that some people believe in and I think that this is just bullying. It is lifting it to a profile that is actually benefiting those who are fighting in the Middle East."

The Fleurieu Milk and Yoghurt Company has operated for about eight years and a chance to supply Emirates with yoghurt came up about two years ago.

It said the deal was a coup for the company and great publicity had come from it until recent days.

Under the Halal dietary requirement set out in the Koran, Muslims consider food preparation techniques as well as the ingredients.
SA Government urges Middle East business engagement

South Australia's Investment and Trade Minister Martin Hamilton-Smith urged local exporters to keep working with the multi-million-dollar Middle Eastern market.

He said they needed to resist misinformed bullying of consumers.

"I encourage South Australian exporters to put enterprise and job opportunities ahead of the extreme views of a minority," he said.

"We need to continue building relationships with the Middle Eastern markets and broader Muslim community.

"South Australia is well placed to benefit from the growing appetite of the global Muslim community because we are leaders in the supply of premium natural products and the preparation of food."

Mr Hamilton-Smith said that in the past year SA businesses had exported $839 million of products to the Middle East and it was an incredibly important trading partner.

"Prejudice has no place in Australia. One of our key friends and trading partners Indonesia is the largest Islamic country in the world," he said.

"We should embrace these opportunities rather than exclude them."

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/25480994/claims-halal-certification-fees-fund-terrorism-absolutely-wrong/
 

hypocritexposer

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If you can stomach it all the way through this video...it shows what unnecessary cruelty Halal is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_bZzxep87c&feature=player_detailpage#t=0


http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/11/10/kudos-to-another-australian-food-company-for-its-decision-to-drop-all-islamic-halal-certification-even-though-it-cost-them-a-muslim-airline-account/
 
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