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OK, so I've been reading a little on here every once in a while & all I've ever really seen are wild accusations & name calling.
Can one side, or hopefully both sides, of the packer ownership or Canadian border issue provide ANY hard numbers or impartial studies to support their arguments?
So far everything has been a person's preference for how they think the market should work and what the marketing channels should be. Very rarely have they ever been backed up by any numbers. And the few times numbers have been involved it's just been a shouting/pi$$ing contest. So, can anybody provide hard evidence one way or the other on any issue? Please, no partisan replies unless there are numbers to back it up. I don't have them, but then again I haven't made very many accusations either.
Phil

Edit: I understand that a fair amount of the ribbing is generally good-natured but sometimes it seems like the gloves have really come off.
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