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He is going to do it Bet on it.

Tam

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Obama is clearing the way to Pardon Hillary as he just commuted Chelsea Mannings 35 year sentence. Can't keep him/her in prison for leaking military secrets and risking US Security when you are going to pardon Crooked Hillary for her mishandling of DOS classified info. Will he pardon Snowden and Bergdahl right along with Hillary. Will he pardon Petraus and the poor soldier that took the pics of Sub that is sitting in prison. How far will he go to let Hillary off the hook and stop the investigations into her actions????
 

Traveler

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Petraeus and that poor soldier that took the harmless and deleted sub pictures only hope for a pardon is to come out as cross dressing homosexual democraps.
 

Traveler

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Tam

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All the Dems want us to believe Obama is going after Russia for hacking but yet he did not kick China out for hacking GOVERNMENT FILES. Nope he kicked Russia out over the DNC's emails that proved Clinton is corrupt to the friggin core. He is punishing Russia for leaking DNC emails through Wikileaks then he commutes the sentence of a guy the leaked MILITARY INFO through WIKILEAKS.

His actions on Russia are NOTHING BUT POLITICAL REVENGE and his LYING Intel OFFICIALS and STUPID supporters are backing him up and calling anyone that don't buy the crap traitors. I can not wait until this SORRY PIECE OF SH*T is in the garbage can and I Pray it is not to late for the US to fix the damage he has done with a smile on his face.

This is the exact reason elected officials should NOT be allowed to go back to DC after they have LOST the election to "FINISH UP BUSINESS"
 

Brad S

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Im not sure berry can pardon someone for something they haven't yet been charged. I'm not inclined to advocate or oppose hillbitch's prosecution until we know what she/they did. More investigation.
 

Faster horses

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Brad S said:
Im not sure berry can pardon someone for something they haven't yet been charged. I'm not inclined to advocate or oppose hillbitch's prosecution until we know what she/they did. More investigation.

:agree:
And now it looks like that investigation will come AFTER Trump is sworn in. Too late for an Obama pardon for Hillary.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Brad S said:
Im not sure berry can pardon someone for something they haven't yet been charged. I'm not inclined to advocate or oppose hillbitch's prosecution until we know what she/they did. More investigation.

Nixon wasnt officialy charged was he?. I believe he can.
 

Tam

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No charges have to be laid. All she has to do is ask Obama for a pardon and he can grant her one. If he grants it, all investigations into her actions prior to the date of pardon will be moot point as she will never be charged. If he is willing to commute the charges of a traitor like Manning that leaked info that resulted in deaths of intel officers he's proven he does not give a dam what it looks like to pardon Treasonous Hillary and traitor Bergdahl. He will be doing it if she asks, as he will not want to take a chance on a Trump Administration Investigation finding out that he knew about everything Hillary was doing and never stopped her.

All we can hope is she is delusional enough that she believes all the investigation will find nothing and by asking to be pardon will make her look like she knows she is guilty and wants a get out of Prison free card. It will be interesting if her aids and her lawyer ask for a pardon as the FBI promised they would destroy their computers if they turned them over but did not do it. What was on those computers that they shelved them instead of destroying them, could it be they proved the FBI were lied to which would null and void their promised immunity?

Just how many pardons will Obama give and if Hillary's whole corrupt team is not pardoned which one is going to take the rap for the rest of them?

Again Charges do not have to be laid for her to ask and receive a pardon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ND4rwy5YnI
 

iwannabeacowboy

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I bet Obama did that to call out Asange- the lefts ultimate villian.

The torured mental jail that Manning exists in is sufficient to know that not much more is needed to render it harmless and continually punished.

You can't castrate yourself and go on livig a sane, productive, healthy life.

I wish we could do that violent rapists.
 

Tam

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They say Assauge told Obama if he would show compassion towards Manning he would come to the US. But if he doesn't come until Obama leaves office why couldn't Trump show Assuage the same compassion Obama showed traitor Manning and pardon him as long as he promises to stop leaking classified info. If the guy/gal that stole the military info and got guys killed is allowed to walk free then why isn't the guy that simply put the info out for everyone to see. If Manning stoled the info you can bet he/she would have found some way to get it out to the public with or without Assauge's help.

I realize It would look bad if Trump pardoned Assauge as it would look like he is doing it because Assauge leaked the DNC and Podesta emails that proved Trump was not lying when he was calling Hillary CROOKED HILLARY. But then does it look any worse than Obama commuting Manning's sentence then starting WW3 with Russia over the DNC and Podesta Emails. NO as what Obama did with Manning shows that the actions he took on Russia were nothing but POLITICAL REVENGE. He(( the actions he did NOT take against the Chinese hacking US GOVERNMENT file proves his actions against Russia were politically motivated. He went after RUSSIA because he had to have somebody to blame for the Democrats bad judgement of running, not only running but rigging their own system for, a candidate that was so corrupt that she was under several ongoing FBI investigations while she was running for POTUS. She could not have possibly lost due to the corruption she was involved in right under his golf playing nose, nope it had to be RUSSIA's fault she lost.

Obama see's his legacy circling the drain and he has to have some one to blame. Can he blame Hillary NOPE as both he and Michelle hit the campaign trail and told all his blind kool aid drinking followers Hillary was the most experienced Candidate to run for POTUS in recent history. Funny how in 2008 she could not be trusted as she was a liar that could not run her own house so should be allowed to run the White House and after a few years of PAY TO PLAY in the Obama State Department, she all of a sudden is the most competent candidate the DNC can find.

As for Manning I don't really care what he did to himself to make himself into a herself, He got soldiers and intel agents killed and he deserves to spend the rest of his life sitting in a prison just like anyone else would be INCLUDING Hillary if the US actually had a JUSTICE FOR ALL SYSTEM.

There needs to be a reset of a system where the out going President can give the country a big middle finger when leaving office by pardoning people that do not deserve to be walking the same streets as law abiding citizens. The Supreme Court should have to approve of the pardon or it is a NO GO. Clinton pardoned Mark Rich after his wife donated a large chunk of money to the Clinton Foundation and now Obama is pardoning foreign and domestic terrorists and traitors it is just not right. There should be at least a law against the President pardoning government officials from his own Administration that are being investigated. If a pardon is due let the next Administration handle it if they see fit.
 

Silver

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I guess if you can pardon Elliott Abrams, Duane Clarridge, Clair George, Alan Fiers, Robert McFarlane and Caspar Weinberger there are no limits. Seems like a peculiar system for sure.
 

Tam

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Abrams had pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges leading to two years of probation and 100 hours of community service; McFarlane pleaded guilty to one felony charge and received two years of probation; Fiers pleaded guilty to two misdemeanors and was given one year of probation and 100 hours community service; and George had been found guilty of two felony charges but had not yet been sentenced., Bush issued the pardons of Clarridge and Weinberger preemptively, a move reminiscent of President Gerald Ford’s pardon of his predecessor, Richard Nixon, following the Watergate scandal.

Was a bit too long ago for me to remember but Pardoning charges that resulted in two years of probation or less is not on the same level as pardoning a guy that was sentenced to 35 years for he treasonous act the resulted in so much damage and death to US Intel agents. As for Clarridge and Weinberger again they should have stood trial to clear the air but if their sentences were like the rest still a lot different than 35 year sentence of Manning's.

BTW did Bush pardoning these guys result in an investigation like Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich. NO

And here is a little info that is interesting.

Federal prosecutor Mary Jo White was appointed to investigate the pardon of Marc Rich. She was later replaced by then-Republican James Comey, who found no illegality on Clinton's part.

Seems Comey has a past of finding the Clintons not guilty of their part in something that stinks to high heaven. Did he even bother to investigate the large donation Mrs Rich made to the Clinton Foundation or did he just figure she had NO INTENT of bribing the President into giving her felon husband a pardon when she was so generous with the Clinton Slush Fund.

Comey needs to recuse himself from any thing having to do with an investigation into the Clinton's, he has tainted the results by his past findings dealing with the Clintons.

Again the Supreme Court should have to approve of any Presidential pardon to stop the vindictive and money making pardons being handed out as the President walks out the door.
 

Traveler

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Maybe just to be safe Buckwheat should pardon Bill and Hillary for rape and murder, which would also make excellent nicknames for the former powercouple.
 

cowman52

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If Hillary gets her pardon, I hope someone is smart enough to go after Bill and Chelsea, and Huma, they were in on the laundry detail just as deep.
I'm not sure she will be pushing the pardon, in her mind, all is right with the world, and a pardon will be way more indicting than an e mail delete.
 

Tam

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They are saying that the Department of Defence did not want Obama to commute Manning's sentence but he did it anyway. He waits until after they pin a medal on his chest, he gave to himself, then he slaps them in the face by going against their wishes and lets a traitor walk free.

Oh and don't forget Cheryl Mills, Hillary's personal lawyer and John Podesta . If Hillary gets her pardon and the investigation takes out her whole gang of cohorts people will have to realize she deserved to be in Prison right along with the rest of them.

Obama's legacy is going to go down in History as being the one that pardoned more violent criminals and terrorists than any other President and making the world a much more dangerous place to live.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Obama trying to drag Russia into election crap is not about needing a patsy for their failure, but is about globalization.

Russia is not on board with the EU/NATO and the islamization of the world to gain fascist control of the world.

Observe Syria. Russia confronted this madness in a position the US would have been 35 years ago.

Russia kicked soros and their propaganda machine out. It's what Hungry is doing now and what the US needs to do under Trump.

That is why Obama is trying to discredit Putin and Trump. It's a global propaganda conflict... a hearts and minds CIA like operation.

It's a continued fight over Ukraine/Crimea.
 

Steve

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Law enforcement officials have labeled him a terrorist since the 1970s.
López Rivera, who was serving more than 50 years in prison for plotting to overthrow the US government, belonged to Armed Forces of National Liberation, known by its Spanish acronym FALN. The group often fought for Puerto Rican independence through violence and was connel
In 1981, López Rivera was sentenced to 55 years in prison for "seditious conspiracy" and other felonies. He was later sentenced to an additional 15 years in 1988 for conspiracy to escape; to transport explosives with intent to kill and injure people; and to destroy government buildings and property.
López Rivera wasn't charged directly in FALN's attacks but more broadly with charges of plotting to overthrow the US government.

FALN first announced itself in 1974, when it took credit for five bombings in New York.
The group was responsible for dozens of bombings and incendiary attacks during the decade, according to law enforcement officials. The bombings were called terror attacks and resulted in at least five deaths and more than $3 million in property damage, according to a 1999 House report for the Committee on Government Reform.
In one attack for which the group claimed responsibility, a booby-trapped body was used to lure a NYPD officer into an abandoned building. The resultant explosion permanently disabled the officer.

In late 1976, Chicago police uncovered a bomb factory run by FALN, a discovery that led to the arrest of López Rivera, the House report said.
 

Tam

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If you are a terrorist, a traitor or a drug dealer you have to see Obama as a Hero. No wonder he defended Hillary's illegal serve that more than likely served up US secrets to the enemies, HE JUST DOESN'T CARE ABOUT SECURITY. He is throwing open the gates of he() in the US as he walks off into the sunset and leaving Trump the biggest mess in History to clean up. From Syria, Russia, China, North Korea, Iran to the streets of Chicago he is leaving his name in the blood in the streets. I'm guessing this is why he is building a concrete wall around his DC home. :mad:
 

Tam

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Another 300 drug dealers were set free by Obama today. Wonder if Drug Lord ElChapo Guzman gets to the US before morning, if Obama will pardon him too.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Less than 18 hours.... place your wagers!

You know he really really is torn between her hanging vs covering his own butt.

Probably some great dialog was had.
 
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