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Health care demonstrations providing fire, little light

Lonecowboy

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reader the second wrote:

Can we just cut to the chase already? This is about people who are unhappy with the results of the November election.


Guess again R2:

Sen. Max Baucus got some not-so friendly advice from his Montana constituents last week as he works to reform the health care system: You're doing it all wrong.

Baucus, the chair of the Finance Committee and the leader of reform efforts in the Senate, scheduled 20 town hall meetings with constituents across the state to talk about the future of health care. The Senate was out of session, but Baucus, a Democrat, didn't personally attend. Instead, he sent staff and a video-recorded message.

"I really want to hear from all of you," Baucus said on the video, according to local media. "You're my employers. You're my bosses. You're the people I work for. I'm just the hired hand. I want to hear what you want to see in any legislation we pass in Washington, D.C."

He got what he asked for.

Five separate accounts of the meetings, published in four different local papers, show Montana voters were downright hostile to Baucus' reform proposal. Baucus has been a staunch opponent of single-payer health care, a system in which the government would provide universal coverage.
That stance put his staffers up against a wall, facing angry constituents fed up by what they viewed as a lack of courage in Washington.

These were max people putting up the fuss.


"Congress ought to be representing us instead of the insurance lobby," said retired school teacher John Oberlitner of Polson. "Max Baucus has stated it's not feasible to pass a single-payer health plan, but one year ago people were saying it was not feasible that Obama could be elected our president."

That man seemed pretty happy with november's election results
 

Lonecowboy

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by the way R2, here is the link to that article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/01/baucus-battered-by-voters_n_209865.html


huffington post, reliable enough for you?
bipartisan enough for you?
 

Sandhusker

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"They're the sequel to this spring's tea party tax protests, an event that just begged for a return of that "Saturday Night Live" character, Linda Richman, to intone, "The tea party tax protests: They're neither about tea nor taxes. Discuss."

"Can we just cut to the chase already? This is about people who are unhappy with the results of the November election. "


The author is another one who just doesn't get it. It's not so much that they are unhappy with the election results, but the results since the election. The "change" they were promised was about accountablity, transparancy, bipartisanship, etc.... That didn't get better, that got much worse. The "change" that they're seeing is Chicago style thug politics, spending money we don't have like drunken sailers, lies, nontransparancy, and a hard left shift in direction of the country. They're unhappy with the election because they just got the ol bait-and-switch pulled on them bigtime. Libs just can't figure that out.
 

MsSage

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Why is it when the "republicans" disagree with anything obama does its either ..they are unhappy with the election, racist, hatemongering ect.....
The obama whatever yall want to be called are screaming about the joker poster BUT thought it was a wonderful work of ART when it was Bush? Did we scream ...no most of us just rolled our eyes and went on to more important things. How many times was Bush shown with either a pagan symbol or a swastika? How many times did yall demand he be impeached? I can give you hundreds more examples of the Bush bashing that was never responded to by the Bush supporters. Why are yall responding so forcefuly and hatefuly? Now I ask you WHY are yall attacking and pushing this to physical conflict? Show me another adminstration who has threatened the people with physical force?

NEVER in the history has and ONE leader of this country divided and so enflamed the people. At what point do you stand back and keep saying we won get out of our way when do you stop and see this has really turned ugly.

If you can answer without blaming please do.......saying it was done before is NOT true .......
 

aplusmnt

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MsSage said:
Why is it when the "republicans" disagree with anything obama does its either ..they are unhappy with the election, racist, hatemongering ect.....
The obama whatever yall want to be called are screaming about the joker poster BUT thought it was a wonderful work of ART when it was Bush? Did we scream ...no most of us just rolled our eyes and went on to more important things. How many times was Bush shown with either a pagan symbol or a swastika? How many times did yall demand he be impeached? I can give you hundreds more examples of the Bush bashing that was never responded to by the Bush supporters. Why are yall responding so forcefuly and hatefuly? Now I ask you WHY are yall attacking and pushing this to physical conflict? Show me another adminstration who has threatened the people with physical force?

NEVER in the history has and ONE leader of this country divided and so enflamed the people. At what point do you stand back and keep saying we won get out of our way when do you stop and see this has really turned ugly.

If you can answer without blaming please do.......saying it was done before is NOT true .......

Because if liberals did not have hypocrisy they wouldn't have anything!
 

Nalen

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This is just liberal tact in its most pure form. Seek out the people who disagree with you then find the one idiot in the crowd and liken everyone with opposing views to be just like the radical in the crowd.

Seek
Ridicule
Destroy

Its what they do. Don't lose your resolve people its time for common sense to once again to be our guide. If it doesn't feel right listen to your gut because God is telling you something is not right.
 

aplusmnt

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Nalen said:
This is just liberal tact in its most pure form. Seek out the people who disagree with you then find the one idiot in the crowd and liken everyone with opposing views to be just like the radical in the crowd.

Seek
Ridicule
Destroy

Its what they do. Don't lose your resolve people its time for common sense to once again to be our guide. If it doesn't feel right listen to your gut because God is telling you something is not right.

They also plant people to pose as Conservatives. One case recently a man holding a Nazi sign was seen later after the rally handing out flyer's supporting Obama.

Republicans as a group are not big protesters and it is killing them that in regards this issue they are coming out to protest and beating Democrats at their own game! I has them scrambling and nervous about what to do.
 

hypocritexposer

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I think you will see the Democrats backtracking on the message that they were trying to get out about the "MOB", it backfired.

Obama will throw Pelosi/Hoyer under the bus.
 

badaxemoo

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MsSage said:
NEVER in the history has and ONE leader of this country divided and so enflamed the people. At what point do you stand back and keep saying we won get out of our way when do you stop and see this has really turned ugly.

Maybe on Political Bull and in some other dark corners of the internets.

But I tend to think that most historians would probably say that the four-way presidential election of 1860, and the subsequent Lincoln administration, might have divided the country a wee bit more.
 

Nalen

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aplusmnt said:
Nalen said:
This is just liberal tact in its most pure form. Seek out the people who disagree with you then find the one idiot in the crowd and liken everyone with opposing views to be just like the radical in the crowd.

Seek
Ridicule
Destroy

Its what they do. Don't lose your resolve people its time for common sense to once again to be our guide. If it doesn't feel right listen to your gut because God is telling you something is not right.

They also plant people to pose as Conservatives. One case recently a man holding a Nazi sign was seen later after the rally handing out flyer's supporting Obama.

Republicans as a group are not big protesters and it is killing them that in regards this issue they are coming out to protest and beating Democrats at their own game! I has them scrambling and nervous about what to do.


Thats because Republicans and Conservatives are too busy working and paying the way for the liberal "give me more free sh*t" crowd. Complaining however solves nothing you have to get out and get the ball rolling. People will join you. Someone just has to get the ball rolling.

I don't tend to think of myself as a republican anymore I'm independent Bush was speeding up the train and now Obama has pegged the throttle. And now with a completely democratic house with Queen Pelosi at the helm they are going to try and expand government exponentially. Our only hope is that in this August break people can scare these loons that if they pass this bill they will be gone come the 2010 elections. Hopefully even if they do not pass this we need to throw the bums out and set in place term limits for the House and Senate. And no more of the perks involving free health care for life. If they eats sleep and breathe washington thats what we get. 2 terms and throw the bums out. I suggest starting a petition in your area. You will have a hard time finding anyone who thinks this is a bad idea. We will change this country but people have to become active. We can no longer sit idly by and watch as lifelong politicians and lawyers ruin OUR country.
 

backhoeboogie

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Nalen said:
aplusmnt said:
Nalen said:
This is just liberal tact in its most pure form. Seek out the people who disagree with you then find the one idiot in the crowd and liken everyone with opposing views to be just like the radical in the crowd.

Seek
Ridicule
Destroy

Its what they do. Don't lose your resolve people its time for common sense to once again to be our guide. If it doesn't feel right listen to your gut because God is telling you something is not right.

They also plant people to pose as Conservatives. One case recently a man holding a Nazi sign was seen later after the rally handing out flyer's supporting Obama.

Republicans as a group are not big protesters and it is killing them that in regards this issue they are coming out to protest and beating Democrats at their own game! I has them scrambling and nervous about what to do.


Thats because Republicans and Conservatives are too busy working and paying the way for the liberal "give me more free sh*t" crowd. Complaining however solves nothing you have to get out and get the ball rolling. People will join you. Someone just has to get the ball rolling.

I don't tend to think of myself as a republican anymore I'm independent Bush was speeding up the train and now Obama has pegged the throttle. And now with a completely democratic house with Queen Pelosi at the helm they are going to try and expand government exponentially. Our only hope is that in this August break people can scare these loons that if they pass this bill they will be gone come the 2010 elections. Hopefully even if they do not pass this we need to throw the bums out and set in place term limits for the House and Senate. And no more of the perks involving free health care for life. If they eats sleep and breathe washington thats what we get. 2 terms and throw the bums out. I suggest starting a petition in your area. You will have a hard time finding anyone who thinks this is a bad idea. We will change this country but people have to become active. We can no longer sit idly by and watch as lifelong politicians and lawyers ruin OUR country.

This Nalen person is only 4 posts in to this forum and I'm liking him/her already. 8)
 

Nalen

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backhoeboogie said:
This Nalen person is only 4 posts in to this forum and I'm liking him/her already. 8)

Thanks and I'm a him. My Aunt told me about this site so I thought I would check it out since it would probly be more my kind of people. So far seems to be the case except for the guy or gal, I will call it it, spouting off in the Republican Cat thread. I thought I should put it in its place for it.
 

badaxemoo

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Nalen said:
backhoeboogie said:
This Nalen person is only 4 posts in to this forum and I'm liking him/her already. 8)

Thanks and I'm a him. My Aunt told me about this site so I thought I would check it out since it would probly be more my kind of people. So far seems to be the case except for the guy or gal, I will call it it, spouting off in the Republican Cat thread. I thought I should put it in its place for it.

You're going to have to bring a little more firepower than that, little boy.

Didn't your Auntie tell you that this is not a nice place?
 

Nalen

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badaxemoo said:
Nalen said:
backhoeboogie said:
This Nalen person is only 4 posts in to this forum and I'm liking him/her already. 8)

Thanks and I'm a him. My Aunt told me about this site so I thought I would check it out since it would probly be more my kind of people. So far seems to be the case except for the guy or gal, I will call it it, spouting off in the Republican Cat thread. I thought I should put it in its place for it.

You're going to have to bring a little more firepower than that, little boy.

Didn't your Auntie tell you that this is not a nice place?

Yes she indeed did tell me that some of the debates in here get rather heated. Also I am not a little boy. I'm quite sure I can handle any debate in here. Unlike some I read books, and bring facts to the table unlike some people on any board that have no idea of what the facts are. I can bring plenty of firepower, so you don't have to worry yourself about little ole me. K?
 

Lonecowboy

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See nalen- this is a perfect example-
Reader (second) started this thread with a drive by posting-
got confronted with the facts-
poof gone- no rebuttal by R2


then badaxcow comes to the rescue-
but just tries to change the subject of the original post-
tries to ridicule the messenger-
no substance- no facts- poof!!

Kind of like what's happening to our Country-
the current administration, no substance, poof gone!
Then We the workingPeople will have to pick up the pieces and start building a country again, if they are not stopped!
 
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