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Here Comes The Cover-Ups

Mike

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Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev was alive and struggling with Watertown police early Friday morning, when his younger brother and alleged coconspirator drove over him in a stolen SUV, dragging him on the pavement and apparently inflicting the fatal injuries that killed him, said Watertown Police Chief Ed Deveau in a Boston Globe interview.

Although the Medical Examiner has not released the cause of death. :roll:


Rest of story:
Tsarnaev, 26, was pronounced dead early Friday morning at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, after engaging police in ferocious firefight in Watertown.

His brother, Dzhokar Tsarnaev, 19, is in Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in serious condition. He was captured Friday night, after hiding for hours in a boat stored in a Watertown backyard. Authorities believe the brothers planted bombs made from pressure cookers at the finish line of the Boston Marathon on Monday, killing three and wounding more than 170.

The chief described the chain of events that led to Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s death, beginning late Thursday, after the brothers allegedly carjacked a man in Cambridge. The two brothers let the driver out unharmed, but the driver’s cellphone was still in his car, said Deveau. Police “pinged” the phone to determine where it was, he said, which alerted police that the suspects were in Watertown.


A local officer spotted the brothers driving in two cars, a Honda sedan and the stolen Mercedes SUV, said Deveau. The brothers stopped, jumped out and started firing on the officer, while more police rushed to the scene, he said.

“Quickly we had six Watertown police officers and two bad guys in a gunfight,” said Deveau. At least 200 shots were fired; maybe as many as 300, he said.

The shots, around 12:50 a.m., woke resident Jennings Aske, at 66 Laurel Ave. When he looked out his window he saw a green Honda Civic sedan stopped in the street, with its lights on and the driver’s side windows blown out. A husky man – apparently Tamerlan Tsarnaev — stood nearby firing a gun.

“I saw him standing there shooting at police,” Aske said. “When he fired, there was a little flash of light. I could hear the gun firing. It was terrifying.”

A police SUV came down Laurel Street, hearing west toward Dexter Avenue, crashing into some trash cans on the sidewalk and into a parked car. Aske said he then saw a black Mercedes SUV drive up, also heading west toward Dexter Avenue. Then he heard two or three loud explosions, one of them large enough to shake the house. In an instant, the street “was crawling with police,” he said.

Deveau said the Tsarnaev brothers hurled something at the officers – apparently a pressure cooker bomb — and there was a tremendous explosion. Police later found the lid to a pressure cooker. “We believe it was an exact duplicate of the Boston Marathon bombs,” he said. The suspects also threw five “crude grenades” at officers; three of which exploded, he said.

One of his officers put his cruiser into gear and jumped out of it, letting it roll at the suspects to draw fire, he said. The suspects peppered the car with bullets.

After several minutes, the elder brother, Tamerlan, walked toward the officers, firing his gun until he appeared to run out of bullets, Deveau said. Officers tackled him and were trying to get handcuffs on him, when the stolen SUV came roaring at them, the younger brother at the wheel. The officers scattered and the SUV plowed over Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was dragged briefly under the car, he said.

Dzhokar Tsarnaev abandoned the SUV almost immediately on a nearby street and fled on foot, triggering an all-day manhunt.

Meanwhile, officers at the scene treated MBTA Transit Police Officer Richard H. Donohue Jr., who had arrived on the scene and was wounded in the gunfight.

Aske continued to watch for several hours, while police searched the abandoned Civic with a robot, apparently looking for explosives.

The state medical examiner has not released an autopsy report detailing cause of death.
 

Tam

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I believe these police officers did what they had to in this part of the firefight, the pair were shooting and lobbing bombs so the officers had every right and obligation to return as much fire as possible to stop them, as they deserve what they got.

BUT when I listened to this story being told on Justice by their Chief tonight all I could think was if the older brother was John Wayneing it down the street towards the cops with guns blazing until he ran out of bullets just how bad of shot were these 6 trained police officers that not one of them got off a kill shot to stop him? The Chief's story was that he got with ten feet of his officers when he finally ran out of bullets and was tackled to the ground and put in handcuffs? TEN FEET and no kill shot :? I realize it was a stressful situation but these were 6 train officers in a 10 minute firefight where 2 to 3 hundred rounds where shot off ending with the perp walking right towards them. :???:

And as far as the younger brother hitting and killing his brother, who knows what the older brother had told him to do, maybe he told him to take him out as he didn't want to be taken alive. He evidently had a death wish to be walking straight at the cops with guns blazing.
 

jigs

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over 300 shots fired? and cause of death is being ran over by your brother???

pathetic shooting by Boston Police
 

Mike

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jigs said:
over 300 shots fired? and cause of death is being ran over by your brother???

pathetic shooting by Boston Police
I thought so too. You know dang well the police were wearing at least armored vests. One policeman was wounded. Don't think the kids were wearing protection.

There has been two different versions on how the younger one ran over the older one.

One said he backed over him, the other said he lunged the car at the police, and continued on his escape.

Either the interpretations are getting skewed, or someone has bad memory.

The defense will surely question the interpretations in court. They might use this as a bargaining chip on a plea in the death penalty?

Justice better look at the facts hard before reading Miranda. After they do, he'll not be going to Guantanamo or a Military Tribunal........................

Video of shootout: (it's obvious that many shots were from an AR-15) (the kids were probably shooting 9MM's that sometimes won't penetrate windshield glass)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wSlRHJv1nnA
 

kolanuraven

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Why don't you 2 fat boys go and take you a course in Criminal Justice and get your J.D.......or police academy ( not the movie) and go and fix the world?

:roll: :roll:
 

Mike

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kolanuraven said:
Why don't you 2 fat boys go and take you a course in Criminal Justice and get your J.D.......or police academy ( not the movie) and go and fix the world?

:roll: :roll:

Hey Miss America! I'll have you know I ain't fat! I still have my schoolgirl figure. :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you think the police is going to save the world, you are badly mistaken. I was with some secret service agents when Biden visited Selma in March.

They were at the range zeroing their sniper rifles. Most were downright pitiful shooters. One out of the whole bunch could shoot.
 

hopalong

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got your educcctshun from the internet eh kolo=jingo=lul=allie,,,kinda like oldtimer,,,done all his school work from an ad in the back of an suoerman comic book,,,

take your hormone pills and back away from sharp things
 

Mike

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Tam said:
I believe these police officers did what they had to in this part of the firefight, the pair were shooting and lobbing bombs so the officers had every right and obligation to return as much fire as possible to stop them, as they deserve what they got.

BUT when I listened to this story being told on Justice by their Chief tonight all I could think was if the older brother was John Wayneing it down the street towards the cops with guns blazing until he ran out of bullets just how bad of shot were these 6 trained police officers that not one of them got off a kill shot to stop him? The Chief's story was that he got with ten feet of his officers when he finally ran out of bullets and was tackled to the ground and put in handcuffs? TEN FEET and no kill shot :? I realize it was a stressful situation but these were 6 train officers in a 10 minute firefight where 2 to 3 hundred rounds where shot off ending with the perp walking right towards them. :???:

And as far as the younger brother hitting and killing his brother, who knows what the older brother had told him to do, maybe he told him to take him out as he didn't want to be taken alive. He evidently had a death wish to be walking straight at the cops with guns blazing.

They had to have known the younger kid was hit by gunfire and never announced it during the lockdown. HAD TO!!!!!!!!!!

This is what shook the boat owner when he saw the blood in his boat. He had no idea.
 
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kolanuraven said:
Why don't you 2 fat boys go and take you a course in Criminal Justice and get your J.D.......or police academy ( not the movie) and go and fix the world?

:roll: :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap:

Don't forget Tammy Faye- the wanna be new Interpol conspiracy expert! :lol: :lol:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
kolanuraven said:
Why don't you 2 fat boys go and take you a course in Criminal Justice and get your J.D.......or police academy ( not the movie) and go and fix the world?

:roll: :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap:

Don't forget Tammy Faye- the wanna be new Interpol conspiracy expert! :lol: :lol:

Sorry Oldtimer I might be mistaken about the six train police officers being able to take out the guy ten feet away from them with a kill shot. As they might have gone to the same Barney Fife Police Academy as you, where all you are good at is impressing drunk women down at the waterhole. :roll:
 

Tam

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Mike said:
Tam said:
I believe these police officers did what they had to in this part of the firefight, the pair were shooting and lobbing bombs so the officers had every right and obligation to return as much fire as possible to stop them, as they deserve what they got.

BUT when I listened to this story being told on Justice by their Chief tonight all I could think was if the older brother was John Wayneing it down the street towards the cops with guns blazing until he ran out of bullets just how bad of shot were these 6 trained police officers that not one of them got off a kill shot to stop him? The Chief's story was that he got with ten feet of his officers when he finally ran out of bullets and was tackled to the ground and put in handcuffs? TEN FEET and no kill shot :? I realize it was a stressful situation but these were 6 train officers in a 10 minute firefight where 2 to 3 hundred rounds where shot off ending with the perp walking right towards them. :???:

And as far as the younger brother hitting and killing his brother, who knows what the older brother had told him to do, maybe he told him to take him out as he didn't want to be taken alive. He evidently had a death wish to be walking straight at the cops with guns blazing.

They had to have known the younger kid was hit by gunfire and never announced it during the lockdown. HAD TO!!!!!!!!!!

This is what shook the boat owner when he saw the blood in his boat. He had no idea.

They did later admit he had been shot during the first firefight as they said they were able to pick up on a few places he had spent time due to the blood they found. They also said he was weak from blood lose when they finally took him into custody. So if he had been losing blood for over twenty hours just how much fight did he have left to put up much resistance once the homeowner found him in the boat. Was a hail of bullets really needed if they wanted to take him alive as they claimed?

Like I said before I hope the law enforcements zealous actions don't give the defense ammo to get a plea deal on a lesser charge. :roll:
 

flounder

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
kolanuraven said:
Why don't you 2 fat boys go and take you a course in Criminal Justice and get your J.D.......or police academy ( not the movie) and go and fix the world?

:roll: :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap:

Don't forget Tammy Faye- the wanna be new Interpol conspiracy expert! :lol: :lol:

Sorry Oldtimer I might be mistaken about the six train police officers being able to take out the guy ten feet away from them with a kill shot. As they might have gone to the same Barney Fife Police Academy as you, where all you are good at is impressing drunk women down at the waterhole. :roll:



now that was funny kola, i don't care who ya are. your spot on too.



tammy faye, i thought i saw you at that same watering hole laying in the mud face down :lol:



and about old mikey, mr anonymous lay claiming too ;



>>>Hey Miss America! I'll have you know I ain't fat! I still have my schoolgirl figure.



and i bet your still wearing that dress mike :lol:




a ship of fools i tell you, the whole damn bunch of the republican reich. ...
 

Tam

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flounder said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap:

Don't forget Tammy Faye- the wanna be new Interpol conspiracy expert! :lol: :lol:

Sorry Oldtimer I might be mistaken about the six train police officers being able to take out the guy ten feet away from them with a kill shot. As they might have gone to the same Barney Fife Police Academy as you, where all you are good at is impressing drunk women down at the waterhole. :roll:



now that was funny kola, i don't care who ya are. your spot on too.



tammy faye, i thought i saw you at that same watering hole laying in the mud face down :lol:



and about old mikey, mr anonymous lay claiming too ;



>>>Hey Miss America! I'll have you know I ain't fat! I still have my schoolgirl figure.



and i bet your still wearing that dress mike :lol:




a ship of fools i tell you, the whole damn bunch of the republican reich. ...

Typical liberals they can't blame the bombing on a ringwinger so they attack those discussing the facts of the topic with cheap shots. Why don't all three of you go away until you grow up and have something constructive to add to the discussion. :roll:
 

loomixguy

Well-known member
Tam said:
flounder said:
Tam said:
Sorry Oldtimer I might be mistaken about the six train police officers being able to take out the guy ten feet away from them with a kill shot. As they might have gone to the same Barney Fife Police Academy as you, where all you are good at is impressing drunk women down at the waterhole. :roll:



now that was funny kola, i don't care who ya are. your spot on too.



tammy faye, i thought i saw you at that same watering hole laying in the mud face down :lol:



and about old mikey, mr anonymous lay claiming too ;



>>>Hey Miss America! I'll have you know I ain't fat! I still have my schoolgirl figure.



and i bet your still wearing that dress mike :lol:




a ship of fools i tell you, the whole damn bunch of the republican reich. ...

Typical liberals they can't blame the bombing on a ringwinger so they attack those discussing the facts of the topic with cheap shots. Why don't all three of you go away until you grow up and have something constructive to add to the discussion. :roll:

Ah, hell, Miss Tam...they can't go away! It's too much fun watching them load up on the short bus every day and then watching them lick the windows, eat crayons, and interfere with livestock!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

flounder

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Tam said:
flounder said:
Tam said:
Sorry Oldtimer I might be mistaken about the six train police officers being able to take out the guy ten feet away from them with a kill shot. As they might have gone to the same Barney Fife Police Academy as you, where all you are good at is impressing drunk women down at the waterhole. :roll:



now that was funny kola, i don't care who ya are. your spot on too.



tammy faye, i thought i saw you at that same watering hole laying in the mud face down :lol:



and about old mikey, mr anonymous lay claiming too ;



>>>Hey Miss America! I'll have you know I ain't fat! I still have my schoolgirl figure.



and i bet your still wearing that dress mike :lol:




a ship of fools i tell you, the whole damn bunch of the republican reich. ...

Typical liberals they can't blame the bombing on a ringwinger so they attack those discussing the facts of the topic with cheap shots. Why don't all three of you go away until you grow up and have something constructive to add to the discussion. :roll:



:lol: :lol2: :disagree: :tiphat: :wave:
 

Tam

Well-known member
flounder said:
Tam said:
flounder said:
now that was funny kola, i don't care who ya are. your spot on too.



tammy faye, i thought i saw you at that same watering hole laying in the mud face down :lol:



and about old mikey, mr anonymous lay claiming too ;



>>>Hey Miss America! I'll have you know I ain't fat! I still have my schoolgirl figure.



and i bet your still wearing that dress mike :lol:




a ship of fools i tell you, the whole damn bunch of the republican reich. ...

Typical liberals they can't blame the bombing on a ringwinger so they attack those discussing the facts of the topic with cheap shots. Why don't all three of you go away until you grow up and have something constructive to add to the discussion. :roll:



:lol: :lol2: :disagree: :tiphat: :wave:

Congrats Flounder you just proved you don't need to cut and paste seventeen pages of worthless crap to be an AZZ :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
A

Anonymous

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
kolanuraven said:
Why don't you 2 fat boys go and take you a course in Criminal Justice and get your J.D.......or police academy ( not the movie) and go and fix the world?

:roll: :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap:

Don't forget Tammy Faye- the wanna be new Interpol conspiracy expert! :lol: :lol:

Sorry Oldtimer I might be mistaken about the six train police officers being able to take out the guy ten feet away from them with a kill shot. As they might have gone to the same Barney Fife Police Academy as you, where all you are good at is impressing drunk women down at the waterhole. :roll:

Tammy- How many times have you been shot at? How many times you faced an armed felon out to get you? How many times have you went into a building where you had good belief it was booby-trapped or held a bomb? How many times you tackled a bad guy with a gun and took it away from him?

I guarantee you Tammy- it isn't like shooting gophers on the Big Beaver-- as every part of your body will be so puckered you couldn't stick a BB up it- and your minds reactions and muscle tensions will be playing all types of games with you... Most officers in a shooting situation have no idea how many rounds they even shot...Often they think 2 or 3 - when in reality it was double or triple that...
But I forget- you are the big brave international Expert on law enforcement training, shootouts and bombs-- and as an anarchist try to spin anything in hopes of tearing down police or government.... :( :( :(
You and hooded sheet wearer need to crawl into bed together....
 

hopalong

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yea and oldtoimer has faced sooooooooo many armed people in his 300 yrs of L.E :D :D :D
Hard to shoot a rubber band pistol when you are shaking at the prospect of arresting Otis the town drunk who is passed out again :D :D :D


This a man who hid behind the womens skirts.
this is a man that treatened to have his son take care of me....a full fledged coward oldtimer
 

kolanuraven

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Mike said:
kolanuraven said:
Why don't you 2 fat boys go and take you a course in Criminal Justice and get your J.D.......or police academy ( not the movie) and go and fix the world?

:roll: :roll:

Hey Miss America! I'll have you know I ain't fat! I still have my schoolgirl figure. :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you think the police is going to save the world, you are badly mistaken. I was with some secret service agents when Biden visited Selma in March.

They were at the range zeroing their sniper rifles. Most were downright pitiful shooters. One out of the whole bunch could shoot.


I never said they'd save the world....but I do know you sure as hell ain't!!

So, I see you are braggin about 'who you know' now!!! :roll: :roll:
 
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