ya she didn't bring home a calf that fall - don't remember what the story was - not that it matters... her calf got killed sometime that year. im pretty sure he still has that cow up there as she was bred back. its hard to just can cows like that even at home here - but i don't ever remember any success giving a cow a second shot even if you try and convince yourself it wasn't her fault... well then who the heck's fault was it? :wink: