I have seen the 417 bull twice along with the 175 bull twice. In the video 417 looks longer than he really is. I am sure he was with the cows and not fully fleshed when it was taken. Not to say he isn't a real good bull. Deep, thick and easy fleshing, but he might moderate lenghth.
175 is the best bull I have ever seen of any breed. Even as good as he looks in the picture, he looks better in person. I have looked at quite a few bulls that had a great picture, but when you looked in person, it was a feeling of "where is the bull that was in the picture". No picture of 175 that I have ever seen prepared me for how good he really looks. The second time I saw him simply verified what I thought the first time around.