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Hey, OT - Question about Emotion, Commotion & Promotion

Texan

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I got this quote from one of the bull threads in Ranch Talk:

Oldtimer said:
That wouldn't be Gary Wall-- who thru all the big/moldy money folks puts together these consortiums to buy these young bulls for extraordinary prices- and then "make them good" thru fancy high dollar promotion using a lot of commotion and emotion... :???: And try to make them top the bull of the month club- long before they have been tested by real life.... :roll:

Why do you have a problem when the purveyors of bulls do this, but it didn't bother you to cast your vote for President for a guy who basically meets the same description?
 
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Anonymous

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Just because like many of the politicians- both R's & D's-- the bull purveyors like to talk the talk- but don't walk the walk---ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE $$$$$$$$$$ INVOLVED...

the whole reason for the existence of registered, purebred cattle is to produce seed stock bulls for the commercial industry.

When there is a strong market potential and high dollars within a breed, the chasing of the latest fad and race to breed cattle with the highest figures takes over,”

--the cattle that perform and reproduce without high input costs and that pay the bills when marketed across the scale. Unfortunately there are no measurements for many of these vital components. Consequently, these basics of animal breeding are being ignored by many in the quest to chase fads and figures.”

Some of the seed stock being sold for top prices are sending the wrong message to the industry about what is most valuable to the commercial cattleman.

“When a registered breeder has a $100,000 cow that can’t raise a bull good enough to sell to a commercial producer, there’s something wrong with this picture,” This is leading many breeders to wonder where the breed is headed.

The seed stock producer must never lose sight of what needs to be supplied to the commercial cattle breeder.
HYPE SELLS CATTLE—FOR AWHILE

Some of the people who enter the industry, attracted by this popularity, are hobby breeders or investors who get into the action with popular bloodlines, spending high dollars and pushing the “value” of these cattle even higher. This opens the door to promoters rather than breeders, and invites people who know how to promote the latest trend. This gives a false picture to the average seed stock producer and to the stockmen who utilize the breed—and especially to the new breeders just coming into the business

They assume that the highest selling bulls or the females bringing high dollars are the best kind to have. But if that “value” doesn’t have a direct benefit to functionality and the commercial cattleman’s bottom line, this can lead a breed in the wrong direction.

Any breeder—purebred or commercial—who tries to select cattle by the criteria being promoted today will eventually end up with a herd that has lost ground in some of the most important traits.

Seed stock breeders who use “numbers” genetics and the popular bloodlines that have been promoted more on hype than on their actual do- ability are finding that this is not working for their commercial customers.

http://angusthemagazine.com/currentissue/2008/jul-aug/numbersalone.html
 

CattleArmy

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Texan said:
I got this quote from one of the bull threads in Ranch Talk:

Oldtimer said:
That wouldn't be Gary Wall-- who thru all the big/moldy money folks puts together these consortiums to buy these young bulls for extraordinary prices- and then "make them good" thru fancy high dollar promotion using a lot of commotion and emotion... :???: And try to make them top the bull of the month club- long before they have been tested by real life.... :roll:

Why do you have a problem when the purveyors of bulls do this, but it didn't bother you to cast your vote for President for a guy who basically meets the same description?

Just wondering was the Republican party ticket tested by real life?

The Rebuplican party didn't use high dollar campaign advertisement?

Still bitter that the majority of the American people spoke and didn't say what you wanted huh? :D
 

hopalong

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CattleArmy said:
Texan said:
Just wondering was the Republican party ticket tested by real life?

The Rebuplican party didn't use high dollar compaign advertisement?

Still bitter that the majority of the American people spoke and didn't say what you wanted huh? :D

Getting harder and harder to find those Ameican people to admit they voted for Obama :wink: :wink: :wink:
 

hypocritexposer

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CattleArmy said:
Texan said:
I got this quote from one of the bull threads in Ranch Talk:

Oldtimer said:
That wouldn't be Gary Wall-- who thru all the big/moldy money folks puts together these consortiums to buy these young bulls for extraordinary prices- and then "make them good" thru fancy high dollar promotion using a lot of commotion and emotion... :???: And try to make them top the bull of the month club- long before they have been tested by real life.... :roll:

Why do you have a problem when the purveyors of bulls do this, but it didn't bother you to cast your vote for President for a guy who basically meets the same description?

Just wondering was the Republican party ticket tested by real life?

The Rebuplican party didn't use high dollar campaign advertisement?

Still bitter that the majority of the American people spoke and didn't say what you wanted huh? :D



It was my understanding that Texan was pretty happy with the shelacking the Tea Party put on the Dems. in Nov, not bitter.
 

Steve

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CattleArmy said:
Still bitter that the majority of the American people spoke and didn't say what you wanted huh? :D

the majority may have spoken in 08 out of anger, but it still is not clear if they even knew what they were saying or what they really wanted..

and welcome back..
 

CattleArmy

Well-known member
Steve said:
CattleArmy said:
Still bitter that the majority of the American people spoke and didn't say what you wanted huh? :D

the majority may have spoken in 08 out of anger, but it still is not clear if they even knew what they were saying or what they really wanted..

and welcome back..


Thank you Steve.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
CattleArmy said:
Steve said:
CattleArmy said:
Still bitter that the majority of the American people spoke and didn't say what you wanted huh? :D

the majority may have spoken in 08 out of anger, but it still is not clear if they even knew what they were saying or what they really wanted..

and welcome back..


Thank you Steve.

were you away? I thought I had noticed you posting on other sections of Ranchers. I must have been mistaken, so a "welcome back", from me too

8)
 

Liveoak

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hopalong said:
CattleArmy said:
Texan said:
Just wondering was the Republican party ticket tested by real life?

The Rebuplican party didn't use high dollar compaign advertisement?

Still bitter that the majority of the American people spoke and didn't say what you wanted huh? :D

Getting harder and harder to find those Ameican people to admit they voted for Obama :wink: :wink: :wink:

Yea hopalong; kinda like it was hard to find those Americans who voted for Nixon about the time of his impeachment. :wink: God forbid if Palin makes it even close to a presidency.
 

Larrry

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I don't think, I know.

If she wasn't so good then why do the libs hate her so much. If she was so bad they would set back and let her self destruct, but no they dwell on her night and day.

What specific stances do you not like about her?
 

Tam

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Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
I theenk it went right over hes head. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Had to go over his head. It would take too long to go around him.

And as hard as his head is there is no possible way it could get through it so it had to go OVER. :wink:
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Tam said:
Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
I theenk it went right over hes head. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Had to go over his head. It would take too long to go around him.

And as hard as his head is there is no possible way it could get through it so it had to go OVER. :wink:

For some reason I had the image of a pigeon flying over his head and well you know the rest.
 

Tam

Well-known member
Larrry said:
Tam said:
Mike said:
Had to go over his head. It would take too long to go around him.

And as hard as his head is there is no possible way it could get through it so it had to go OVER. :wink:

For some reason I had the image of a pigeon flying over his head and well you know the rest.

:? does your image involve a single pigeon or a whole flock with control problems. Come on tell us the truth we can take it. :wink: :lol:
 
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